Nomad or Woodsman?


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Certaindeaf
March 25, 2013, 07:02 PM
Colt..

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z309/glz3/Colt22WOODSMAN.jpg

Browning..

http://milpas.cc/rifles/ZFiles/Manufacturers/Browning/Browning%20Arms%20Company%20Gallery/Browning%20Nomad.jpg

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Certaindeaf
March 25, 2013, 07:09 PM
Well just in case any of you don't know nothin, the Browning is way better.

Wil Terry
March 25, 2013, 07:30 PM
Well just in case any of you don't know nothin, the Browning is way better.
I WOULD DISAGREE WITH THIS POINT OF VIEW; the higher grade Browning Challenger 22 pistol I had was a distinct PITA and could not shoot with ANY of the six different COLT 22 autoloading pistols I've had [ or have yet ]. FURTHERMORE, it was not made as well as the COLT.
And so it goes...

Edarnold
March 25, 2013, 08:38 PM
In 20 years the Colt will have doubled in value; you will be lucky to break even on the Browning, inflation or not. The market decides, and a well kept Woodsman will always be a winner.

dogtown tom
March 25, 2013, 08:49 PM
Certaindeaf Well just in case any of you don't know nothin, the Browning is way better.
It's a copy of the Woodsman.

rcmodel
March 25, 2013, 08:55 PM
No, it isn't!
Not even close to a copy.
The only thing similar to the Woodsman is the external shape of the Nomad.
Internals, barrel mounting, takedown, etc are totally different.


Either gun is good.
IMO: The Woodsman is better.

Also IMO:
Replacement mags for either one are getting scarce, and good ones will run you in the $40-$50+ range for the Nomad, and more for genuine Colt Woodsman mags.

rc

InkEd
March 25, 2013, 09:33 PM
I'll go ahead and say it....

Ruger MK

Savage99
March 25, 2013, 09:40 PM
The two pistols are not comparable.

The Woodsman was made by Colt in the USA and is a class gun.

The other gun was made by the japs who started and lost ww2 or maybe now in china. No class.

I have shot and carried the Woodsman since 1957 and have some of the older ones.

Here is, in my view, the best looking pistol ever made.

http://imageshack.us/a/img545/9289/woodsmandscn2713.jpg

springer99
March 25, 2013, 10:25 PM
Years(many) ago, I carried a Nomad all the time when tending a trapline. It never failed me once. Rock solid and accurate to be sure. Don't have anything more to add.

rcmodel
March 25, 2013, 10:41 PM
This one ain't too shaby:

1976 Match Target
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j219/rcmodel/KTOG/MatchTarget.jpg

1936 4 1/2" Sport & 6 5/8" 1927 Woodsman
But the 4 1/2" 1936 Sport in this photo is the best most accurate Woodsman I own.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j219/rcmodel/KTOG/ColtWoodsman.jpg

A litter
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j219/rcmodel/KTOG/FourWoodsman.jpg

rc

Gordon
March 26, 2013, 12:04 AM
The Browning Medalist, Challenger and Nomad were made in Belgium until about 1974. They are excellent all steel guns and close in design to the Woodsman. The Medalist will usually out shoot a Colt Match Target Woodsman BTW as it was a premium hand tuned match weapon.The premium High Standard target pistols out shot them both in the day until Clark Modified Ruger Mark 1s ruled the roost in NRA matches.
http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/attachments/powder-keg/20971d1240331566-22-target-pistol-purchase-browning-medalist.jpg

Ascot500
March 26, 2013, 12:49 AM
I doubt that you will be unhappy with either.

But to my eyes the Woodsman just looks better.

There are an awful lot of finger grooves on that Browning slide.

788Ham
March 26, 2013, 12:58 AM
Jump on that Woodsman, just "style and class" above that other one!

Jim K
March 26, 2013, 01:07 AM
The Woodsman is way above the others as a collectors item and most have good trigger pulls.

For plain durability and reliability with about anything in .22 LR ammo, it is hard to beat a Ruger Mk anything.

Jim

rcmodel
March 26, 2013, 01:12 AM
The premium High Standard target pistols out shot them both in the day until Clark Modified Ruger Mark 1s ruled the roost in NRA matches.I seem to remember the S&W Model 41 ruling NRA Bullseye in 1969 when I shot inter-service matches at Ft. Benning.

The Hi-Standards were very good, and some of the top shooters preferred them.
But the Model 41 shooters most often came home with the gold on my US Army AMU pistol team.

Not saying one was more accurate then the other.
As they were both way more accurate then the Woodsman Match Target, or Medalist, Challenger, or Nomad.
Or the Clark Ruger.

Nobody on the service teams shot them.
And none of the civilian shooters with Clark's were very competitive in my part of the world.

As an AMU pistol team gunsmith, I spent a lot of time making civilian Jim Clark's work.
Which had a lot more to do with the civilians tinkering and lack of maintenance then Jim Clark's initial gun building skills.

rc

helitack32f1
March 26, 2013, 01:14 AM
Colt Woodsman! But only because I love them and have never even heard of a Nomad.

Savage99 and rcmodel's photos are making me jealous!

bannockburn
March 26, 2013, 01:29 AM
The Colt Woodsman, all the way! I love their styling and their old school look of blued steel and walnut grips.

Certaindeaf
March 26, 2013, 10:37 AM
Heh, I hear you guys! I just wanted to hear one way or another from you all. I'd certainly not turn my nose up at anything Colt or High Standard. I've had my Nomad for over thirty years. The bluing is old world deep perfection to this day. It fits my hand perfectly and shoots like a reliable little laser beam.. I love it.

aka108
March 26, 2013, 12:04 PM
I'v always liked Colt's Woodsman series better than any other SA 22 cal pistol. Really enjoy shooting my 2nd series MT and the only 22 handgun I like a little better is my old S&S K22. Hell, I'm a old coot and appreciate the craftsmanship in these older arms made of steel far more than the light alloyed and mold injected handguns made today.

1KPerDay
March 26, 2013, 01:07 PM
The other gun was made by the japs who started and lost ww2 or maybe now in china. No class.
:rolleyes:

JohnM
March 26, 2013, 01:34 PM
I personally like the Woodsman more, I just wish it wasn't so painful buying one now.

Certaindeaf
March 26, 2013, 03:07 PM
:rolleyes:
Yea, I know. The Nomad was never made in Japan.. it was made in Belgium.
Speaking of Japan, I've had Belgian and Japanese manufactured BLR's (Browning Lever Rifle).. The Japanese made ones were/are fully as fine as those made in Belgium. I wish they made Hi-Powers in Japan.

shootist2121
March 26, 2013, 05:42 PM
I shot a Browning Challenger against Colts, Hi Standards and Smiths. It held its own against all of them...Colts IMO are over priced, but to each their own. If you can get the Colt at the same cost of the Nomad..I buy the Colt..It has at least last shot hold open versus Nomad which does not.

Be Safe

Certaindeaf
March 26, 2013, 05:57 PM
I've never shot a Medalist or Challenger. It would seem there would be little reason to have a rifle.

Certaindeaf
March 26, 2013, 06:07 PM
I've had a 4" 422 S&W for decades. Ugly as sin but it's very reliable and accurate.. the bore being like 1/2" above your grip works well also.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff111/BillCA/Hobby/stock/SWModel422.jpg

Nomad is better than that though.

TennJed
March 26, 2013, 06:14 PM
Walther 1936 Olympia Model Target Pistol

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/Walther_Olympia_1797.jpg

Certaindeaf
March 26, 2013, 06:16 PM
Is that made in chinee? lolz

TennJed
March 26, 2013, 06:19 PM
Is that made in chinee? lolz
lol, I don't think so, but Norinco made a copy of it. I can't afford a Walter, but I do have the Norinco copy and it is hands down the most accurate 22 I have shot. I own 2 Ruger MKs and a browning buckmark and I much prefer the Norinco

Certaindeaf
March 26, 2013, 06:20 PM
Well dayum, I hear you. That's interesting.

TennJed
March 26, 2013, 06:23 PM
Well dayum, I hear you. That's interesting.
Here is a pic of the "chinese" copy (what I have)

Norinco TT Olympia. The Walther was the gun that won the Gold medal for germany in the 1936 olympics (hence the name)

http://cidpraha.inshop.cz/inshop/catalogue/products/pictures/norincottolympia.JPG

Certaindeaf
March 26, 2013, 06:29 PM
Excellent.
I really just started this thread to show/say how much I appreciate the Nomad. I see nothing wrong with praising worthy .22's here.

TennJed
March 26, 2013, 06:36 PM
Excellent.
I really just started this thread to show/say how much I appreciate the Nomad. I see nothing wrong with praising worthy .22's here.
The Nomad and Woodsman are both on my bucket list. I have not had the joy of shooting either, but they are two guns that I would love to add to my collection

hentown
March 27, 2013, 10:29 AM
When my dad died in '81, he left two Woodsmans; one Match Target and one plain Target. My brother got the Match Target, even though he never really cared much about shooting.

I gave my still-pristine Woodsman to my youngest son a few weeks ago. I picked up a new Mark III 22/45 with threaded barrel. Have since bought a Mark III 22/45 Target. The Woodsman's value is probably over twice what I paid for both Rugers. The Rugers are better pistols, however. ;)

forindooruseonly
March 27, 2013, 12:00 PM
Woodsman for sure - no doubt about that at all.... wait, I don't have a Challenger, but I do desperately want a Belgium one with both barrels.. Take your pick, both are actually great guns.

I'd take either over my Ruger MKII any day.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a263/Forindooruseonly/Woodsmans.jpg

1KPerDay
March 27, 2013, 12:41 PM
Great pic.

wlewisiii
March 28, 2013, 01:07 AM
My wife inherited a Colt Huntsman. I'm am thrilled when I get the chance to shoot it :)

My FiL bought it, used, in the early 70's for ~$250. I'd have to say I'm glad he did; I know there are better .22 pistols out there but it remains the finest I've ever had the pleasure to shoot.

So consider this my vote for the Colt :evil:

Clark
March 28, 2013, 02:20 AM
On Feb 23, a little over a month ago, I was at the Puyallup gun show and watched an old gentleman pay ~ $1k for a Woodsman. I stopped and asked him why it was worth so much. He said it was because it came with 3 magazines.

I did not understand that completely, but I have bought 6 Woodsman and one pre woodsman since. I have not shot any of them yet. Another old gentleman who lives near me says he can teach me how to shoot 22 target. He gave me some Woodsman grips and says he is done with Woodsmen. He is into other stuff. Three days ago he said to me, "Did you hear that Chiappa will be handling the FAS 602 and 604? If priced well, the 602 could be a strong contender against the Pardini SP22, the Benelli MP95e and MP90s. The FAS 604 would be a superb air pistol for you to use for fun practice at home. Its weight and mass resembles a .22lr pistol."

But teaching me to be a good shot with a handgun may be hopeless.

He says if I reduce my goals, go for the buckmark.

rcmodel
March 28, 2013, 01:25 PM
He said it was because it came with 3 magazines.
I did not understand that completely,If they were early two-tone magazines, he paid the going rate for the gun and 3 two-tone magazines.

http://www.gunsinternational.com/COLT-WOODSMEN-CLIPS-TWO-TONE.cfm?gun_id=100312660

http://www.soldusa.com/rainworx/detail.asp?id=43248

http://www.americanarmsandantiques.com/listings.php?id=653

rc

Dr.Rob
March 28, 2013, 03:31 PM
While the Colt was always much more expensive than the Ruger target pistols (which I love) I'd like to get my hands on a Woodsman someday.

Certaindeaf
March 28, 2013, 04:15 PM
I really wouldn't mind a Browning Medalist one of these days but were I only able to have one, I'd choose my old Nomad.

http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/6853144044/8482292/7cc0e74cd9ac264f86879046ef44f93b.jpg

helitack32f1
March 28, 2013, 10:24 PM
Ok, I have to post a pic too. I have owned 4 Woodsman's and currently have two. I have never paid more than $450 for one and I even know of one locally for $450, so deals can be had if you don't insist on perfection. Of course, both the Ruger SR22p and Mark III target I just bought were less than that.

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll197/helitack32f1/download029.jpg

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll197/helitack32f1/download032.jpg

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