Ortgie pistol


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moonax
March 25, 2013, 07:38 PM
I was left an 25 ACP Ortgie pistol and I went out to shoot it yesterday and it only went bang four times. The last firing I had to put the shell back in and strike the primer again .The ammo I used was Magtech (all I could find ) . Dry firing the gun the strike seems weak ,the firing pin dimpled the primer on three more shells but would not fire. I don't think it is the ammo , I believe the striker spring is weak .
I found parts for the pistol online but no firing pin housing . My question is do I need to replace the firing pin or can I just get a new spring and striker guide . I tried to strech the spring some but it didn't seem to be any stronger.
Pretty cool little pistol , my friends uncle took it off a Nazi in WW11.I'm posting a couple of pictures. Thanks for you thoughts.

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moonax
March 25, 2013, 07:44 PM
Pictures didn't go first try .

dfariswheel
March 25, 2013, 10:20 PM
All you should need is the spring unless the firing pin is broken.

Here's a schematic:

http://www.stevespages.com/ipb-ortgies-pocket.html

Unless you just have to, leave the barrel in place. When reassembling it you have to get it perfectly aligned or the barrel will be pointing to one side or the other.
This can cause excessive wear of the slide.

Also, encase you don't know it, the "trick" to reassembling the Ortgies is to turn the firing pin lug into the small cut inside the slide. This holds the pin and spring assembly in place during assembly.

Of course, the firing pin will jump out of the cut very easily, so you may want to do reassembly with the gun and your hands inside a large plastic bag to catch the parts if/when they fly back out.

moonax
March 26, 2013, 10:09 PM
Dfariswheel
Thanks for the information,the firing pin seems fine, I'll order a spring tomorrow.
I watched a video on how to feild strip the Ortgie. The plastic bag is a good idea .

Jim NE
March 26, 2013, 10:15 PM
I 'd like to have an ortgie, but I don't think my wife would go for it.

Kiln
March 27, 2013, 03:36 AM
I 'd like to have an ortgie, but I don't think my wife would go for it.
Lmao.

Jim K
March 29, 2013, 04:21 PM
Hi, moonax,

If we can sort of ignore the last two postings, if you are getting parts check to make sure your gun has the firing pin spring guide (#5 in the illustration). Without it, the firing pin spring can kink up and reduce the firing pin blow.

Jim

ku4hx
March 29, 2013, 05:24 PM
I 'd like to have an ortgie, but I don't think my wife would go for it.
LMAO!! That's just funny. And I agree, my wife would never agree to an ortgie.

kBob
March 30, 2013, 11:57 AM
Once worked on one for a buddy that was not firing sometimes. There was a kink in the striker spring near one end. I found that when it was forwar as in in the firing pin it tended to not work but when towards the rear aand over the guide it worked fine. I wonder also if the original springs were oriented or that is to say designed so one end is slightly different from the other and it makes a difference which end is forward.

Once you get it going you might put yours on the whats your favorite pocket pistol for plinking topic that is currently going.

I found that in carrying loose in a pocket that the grip safety got turned off (and it stays off until the button is pushed again) very easily and so could not be trusted. Placing the pistol in some sort of pocket holster helped but the Ortgies seems like a good gun to carry cocked on an empty chamber with a loaded magazine rather than with a round in the chamber.

My buddy's gun was your classic little old lady's night stand gun. I think it had ammo from the 1920s in it when she sold it to him.

-kBob

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