G96 or Breakfree?


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rduchateau2954
March 25, 2013, 07:38 PM
Or something else?

I have a hunting buddy, uncle of a friend, who swears by G96. "The only thing that will ever touch my guns" he says. Big time bird hunter, big time dog trainer, all together pretty serious about what he does.

Gunsmith swears by breakfree, buys it in big drums.

Breakfree is available locally, G96 has to be ordered (pretty sure on this, haven't checked everywhere yet)

Through research I know not to mix the two, the chemical reaction will produce a glue like substance. So it seems like a choose one and stick with it kinda thing.

Thoughts?

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rcmodel
March 25, 2013, 08:35 PM
It doesn't matter, as long as you use something.

CLP is used by the military.

G96 is probably used by NASA at $600 on ounce on something.

But so is WD-40 and 10-20W motor oil.

How, and how often you use it is much more importent then what you use.

rc

cauldron
March 25, 2013, 09:00 PM
G96 smells so nice though...

and iirc, Colt uese it. at least for their handguns

Drail
March 25, 2013, 11:02 PM
Breakfree is now owned by Safariland and their current CLP product no longer meets Mil specs and is not a supplier for the U.S. military any more. G96's CLP is one of the only commercially available products that does meet current Mil spec. They are both good products. I used the original Breakfree CLP for many years and noticed when they changed the formula several years ago. I plan on trying some of the G96 CLP when I can find it. I believe the current military CLP product is now being made by Royco Industries.

Horsemany
March 25, 2013, 11:37 PM
If the current Breakfree no longer meats MIL SPEC why does it still have the MIL SPEC numbers all over the bottle?

I'd say use either. They're both very good.

rcmodel
March 26, 2013, 12:02 AM
There was a California cancer scare pertaining to something in the original CLP formula.

If you don't live in California, there was nothing wrong with old CLP.

If you do?
You will die of cancer, and so will all your kids, if you open the flop-top lid on an old bottle of CLP.

Myself?
Use it if you got it.

I don't live in California.
But, I still eat grilled steaks too so I am not a good judge of the California cancer scare.

rc

Jim K
March 26, 2013, 01:21 AM
I have used G-96 Gun Treatment as both a preservative and a penetrant, and found it excellent for both uses. (It is not a good lubricant, though, being too thin.)

I use WD-40 on my garage doors, not on guns.

Jim

rcmodel
March 26, 2013, 02:52 AM
If lubrication is important?
You should only use holy blessed and certified gun oil on your expensive garage doors too shouldn't you?

Not trying to pick a fight over WD-40 again.

But it is not any worse then any other gun oil, if you use it often enough to cut the old oil out, and replace it with the new oil after the most excellent WD-40 solvent dries.

I have used it an awful lot in the shop over the years in restoring old S&W's, Colts, and Winchesters.
It is a most excellent medium for cutting through 100 years of dried guns oil and dirt without killing yourself or stinking up the house from the fumes.

And it would be a good enough gun lubricant too if people cleaned their guns every year or so!

Contrary to Internet BS & legend.
WD-40 will not turn into Gorilla Glue a few weeks or months after you clean your gun with it!

My contention is, WD-40 is only the spawn of the devil if you spray it in, leave it in, and come back 5 years later after it has dried out and gummed up.

But the same could be said about any of the dried gun or sewing machine oil & powder fouling I use WD-40 to get out of old guns in the first place.

rc

Clark
April 3, 2013, 12:29 PM
20 years ago, before there were www gun forums there was just rec.guns on usenet.
There were so many long threads on WD-40 that I called up the application engineer at WD-40 and talked to him.
It has been so many years, I can't remember what he said.
But I do remember doing a controlled test in 1988 when I caught ~ 30 blackmouth salmon. The lure with WD-40 sprayed on it catches more than twice as many fish.

I got a case of Breakfree CLP before they changed the formula. Guys used to try to buy some off me. Now it is only a silly old memory.

There is a guy on youtube, hickhok45, an old radio personality that really knows how to get a viewer's attention and keep it when he shoots guns. He uses Ballistol in all his guns.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistol
The Germans used this CLP [cleaner lubricant protectant] from 1905 until 1945.
It kind of stinks.
I bought a Luger last month.
I cleaned out the dirt and put Ballistol, not breakfree, in it.
That is the correct smell for a Luger.

Jim K
April 4, 2013, 01:15 AM
Hi, rc,

If you thought I was just being obstreperous about WD-40, at least I didn't suggest using it on fishing lures. I haven't tried G-96 on them either, but is smells like bubble gum, so maybe it would really attract the fish. ;)

Jim

Clark
April 4, 2013, 02:08 PM
http://wd40.com/about-us/myths-legends-fun-facts/

WD-40® Myths, Legends & Fun Facts
Myth: WD-40 contains fish oil.
Fact:
Consumers have told us over the years that they have caught some of the biggest fish ever after protecting their fish hooks and lures with WD-40. We believe this legend came from folks assuming that the product must contain fish oil since it appears to attract fish. Sorry Charlie®, it just ain’t so.

WD-40 Company has taken steps to respect and conserve the environment, and encourages its users to do the same. While WD-40 can be used to help protect fishing equipment from rust and corrosion, WD-40 Company does not recommend using WD-40 to attract fish.

What does it all mean?
The people that make WD40 don't even know what they are talking about.

JRH6856
April 5, 2013, 12:13 AM
Contrary to Internet BS & legend.
WD-40 will not turn into Gorilla Glue a few weeks or months after you clean your gun with it!

My contention is, WD-40 is only the spawn of the devil if you spray it in, leave it in, and come back 5 years later after it has dried out and gummed up.

My mother had an antique striking mantle clock. She thought it needed lubricating so she sprayed the inside with WD-40. I think it only took about 3 years for the clock to stop completely. I took it to a client who restored clocks as a hobby. He got it running again but told me if anyone used WD-40 on it again, to take it somewhere else.

RustHunter87
April 5, 2013, 09:34 AM
What it means is wd 40 is not gun oil........

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