I really wanna dislike this pistol....


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whetrock
March 25, 2013, 08:25 PM
But just can't. This little junker just will not malfunction. The accuracy is quite good given its short sight radius. I really feel like even if it bites the dust with the seemingly inevitable frame crack, I'll have done alright for the money. I hear the warranty is decent ;) In all seriousness it has some very significant flaws, but they can be overlooked by me, given what I have in it. I got it in a trade, and really didn't set out to purchase it, but to date it's a welcome addition. (you can tell from the back rib it's been dropped or something)
http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg639/whetrock/IMG_0222_zps94267b84.jpg

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Robbins290
March 25, 2013, 09:07 PM
Ya. I bought mine new for 130 out the door. I beat the snot out of it. Just keeps going bang. Every time. Accurate enough to carry if for hiking

MedWheeler
March 25, 2013, 10:06 PM
Mine is a fine shooter, and I really enjoy it. Pretty dang accurate for a zinc-based .22 in its price point, and holds ten rounds, just like my Ruger Mk-II. With good-grade ammo (CCI MiniMags and the like), I cannot get it to malfunction. Cheap stuff chokes it up from time to time, though. I bought it on a whim, and I'm glad I did.

As far as the frame cracking thing goes, Phoenix happily accepts them back for repair. In fact, the trend seems to have been that it is easier and cheaper for them to simply replace the gun; many people who have sent theirs in for cracked frames report getting a new gun back instead. By the way, the cracked frame usually does not compromise function.

tipoc
March 25, 2013, 11:27 PM
Over the years I've heard and read good things about them. Gun Tests Magazine rated them highly a few years back. Personally I've never shot one but for the money I keep thinking, Why Not?

Has any one else shot one?

tipoc

USAF_Vet
March 26, 2013, 01:11 AM
If you ever get around to disliking it, let me know. I will make you an offer.

Chris-bob
March 26, 2013, 01:27 AM
I got mine for $100 and the longer barrel and extra mag for another $25. Love it.

EBK
March 26, 2013, 01:36 AM
I Bought one for 130. Love it, has a million safeties but its workable and functions very well.
For 45 bucks you can get a 5 inch BBL and a spare mag. Mags are only like 16 bucks a piece, I need to get some.
http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/Eklypse13/IMG_2191_zpsd7b9bbc3.jpg

robby04162
March 26, 2013, 01:37 AM
I've been wanting a really inexpensive .22 for the backyard and this always catches my eye. Might have to pick one up soon.

Kiln
March 26, 2013, 01:46 AM
They're pretty good low cost pistols. Limited lifespans but they're reliable and fun in my experience.

I really like mine too.

Tinker
March 26, 2013, 07:17 AM
Limited lifespans but they're reliable and fun in my experience.

I just found the limit on my HP22's life a month ago. About 5k rounds. The thing was shooting great, as usual, but the mag was getting hard to insert and remove. Broke it down after I got home. The metal in the frame was cracked and warped, grabbing the mag AND the slide was broken. Phoenix is suposed to be repairing it now.

Will be glad when it gets back. Miss the little plinker.

Kiln
March 26, 2013, 03:49 PM
I got a little over 3.5k rounds through mine before the frame cracked. I kept shooting it anyways for roughly another 1k rounds and then decided to send it in. They sent me a new gun back with an extra mag.

Good company, good prices, decent guns.

el Godfather
March 26, 2013, 04:50 PM
I dont like it but I want one especially if it was in 9mm

MachIVshooter
March 26, 2013, 09:19 PM
Paid $116 for mine a few years ago. Generally reliable, good ergos, decent trigger and surprisingly accurate. I removed the mag safety and superglued the slide mounted safety in the off position. I just use the 3rd safety on the frame. lol

JERRY
March 26, 2013, 09:25 PM
id really like an iver johnson tp22

whetrock
March 26, 2013, 09:51 PM
^^^^ Those were a bit before my time, but I've heard they're pretty, good pistols for the money. I wish that Phoenix, would produce an all steel variant of the HP22, but I'd imagine it cost, a great deal more, then again I could quit wishing and get a Bereea 21A Bobcat.

Noah
March 26, 2013, 11:11 PM
We have one, it's a little heavy, annoying safeties, too small, poor ergos, but it has been a fantastic super value plinker and practice gun. It has been more than worth what we paid. However, after maybe 1k-1.5k rounds, it has developed serious misfire and FTE/FTFeed problems that won't go away. Ours was never very accurate.

But to our family, who was on a super tight budget and was just getting into handguns and shotguns for home defense/carry, it was a superb firearm. Cheap, and reliable and very fun while it worked. I wouldn't buy another, but I'm glad we bought the one we did, if you know what I mean. While now it's just a safe queen (or safe "decrepit old lady pig"?) I am glad we bought it, for the handgun learning my parents needed on their budget, it was great.

Sun Tzu warrior
March 27, 2013, 01:26 AM
Great gun for the price! Mine and three others that I know of will digest any diet you feed it.
Accuracy has not been a problem.
The annoying safeties can be defeated in 3 minutes with a screwdriver and a dremel tool with a cutoff wheel! If anyone would like I can post details of mods, with pictures.

Noah, has it been dryfired a lot? If there is a fireing pin ding in the breech, it could be "ironed out"

MedWheeler
March 27, 2013, 07:39 AM
el_Godfather writes:

I dont like it but I want one especially if it was in 9mm

Maybe the Bryco/Jiminez JA-Nine is for you?

Noah
March 27, 2013, 08:06 PM
No, it hasn't been dryfired more than maybe a dozen times, probably less. If I took the time, a few new parts and a very thorough cleaning/inspection might do the trick. If we had any .22LR to shoot...

I shot a JA .380 once. 4/7 shots malfunctioned in one way or another. And the recoil was actually painful. Needless to say, that one was not a keeper.

Robbins290
March 27, 2013, 08:07 PM
Lol medwheeler. I was thinking he should get a hi point then.

Kiln
March 27, 2013, 11:20 PM
The Jimenez JA9 I shot was about like shooting a Polish P64. It wasn't horrible but it was uncomfortable.

Flawless performance though through 100+ rounds. They're not as bad as my dad's old Jennings 9mm, which jammed frequently and then had a firing pin spring break before he got rid of both of the ones he had.

The other actually worked fine but after the issues with the first one he bought he didn't want it anymore.

Me? I'd have kept both of them. I've had several cheap guns that did much better than I had been told to expect. They're also easy to fix and parts are dirt cheap.

strange246
March 29, 2013, 07:36 PM
Hmm I think I just found my next irresponsible impulse buy LOL

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