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JO JO
March 26, 2013, 02:47 AM
loading 9mm and 40 s&w , out of these HS6 , win auto comp , universal,
which would be good for loading from target to upper mid levels,
been using HS6 but at lower target loads kind of dirty. I am out of
HS6 now and someday when powder is buy-able would like to try somethig
else. have tried power pistol did not like the flash with upper loads in 40.

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rcmodel
March 26, 2013, 03:06 AM
I'm old-school.
I use Unique for everything like that.
32-20, .380, 9mm, .40, .44 Spec., .45 ACP, .45 Colt.

Thats why it is called -- emmmmm? -- Unique.

On the otherhand, lots of folks don't like Unique because they expect a $25 buck powder measure to measure it to the nearestst knats whisker.

Doesn't matter to me.
I use 3 old Lyman #55 powder measures that were perfected about the same time Unique powder was invented.

0.1 +/- grain variation is close enough for Unique.

Thats why it is so -- emmmmm? -- Unique.

rc

gamestalker
March 26, 2013, 05:27 AM
I've noticed during this buying craze that my favorite powder, Longshot, is always easy to find. Now Longshot is not some monster as powders go, it just isn't an efficient powder to use. This is probably why no one uses it, well at least not many use it, being that the shelves in the gun stores seem to always have it in stock. A 135 gr. JHP load has a range of 8.5 grs. to 11.5 grs., so it will definitely eat up a pound much faster than 231 or HP38 will. But my type of reloading is not typical either, as I like high end jacketed stuff using slow burner's such as L.S.. L.S is very easy to work up with also, it doesn't suddenly produce pressure spikes with a .2 gr. increases, I mean we're talking about a powder that has a 2.0 gr. to 3.0+ gr. spread for jacketed loads. Honestly, it's difficult at best to even tell the difference in load intensity without a chronograph for loads ranging from minimum to mid range or more.

Something to consider if you are seeking a top performer for 9mm and .40 cal.. I absolutely love it and have been hooked on it for a long time. It also produces some of the finest +P 38 spcl. loads imaginable, without the pressure concerns or spikes of other powders that run similar velocities.
GS

sourdough44
March 26, 2013, 06:16 AM
If you want one powder for both I would just use H Universal, others would be O.K. too.

SpentCasing
March 26, 2013, 07:43 AM
i shoot 9(Beretta92 and G17/19). my buddy shoots 40(G23 and Sig226). we both have good results with tite group.

beatledog7
March 26, 2013, 09:13 AM
For target/plinking rounds in 9mm and .40S&W, I use mostly Bullseye. But with Bullseye, one must be careful not to double charge, as it is a fast and efficient (low weight per round) powder.

joecil
March 26, 2013, 09:59 AM
I don't load 40 however I do load 9mm and 45 ACP among others. I like either Titegroup or HP-38 in both. Find both very accurate with 124-125 gr FMJ or L-RN bullets in either caliber. I gave up on Bullseye as I had problems getting it to meter while Titegroup and HP-38 don't give me the problems.

Two others I also like and use on occasion are Universal Clays and Clays. Both are very clean burning also.

bds
March 26, 2013, 10:07 AM
I have used all three for 9mm and 40S&W and they have worked well for high-to-max loads.

Universal is faster burning than HS-6/AutoComp on par with Unique and better suited for mid-to-high range load data target loads.

JC98
March 26, 2013, 10:10 AM
231/hp-38 or titegroup

rbernie
March 26, 2013, 10:15 AM
I'm a Unique and W231/HP38 kinda guy for 9x19 and 40S&W, at least until shooting nuclear 180gr 40S&W loads.

Blue68f100
March 26, 2013, 10:19 AM
WSF would give you the upper end and mid range with out any issues, capable of +P loads. It's a Ball powder with a high loft so it fills the case making it easy to see. WSF is s Shotgun Powder so it's normally readily available in larger jugs. 231 would work too.

John3921
March 26, 2013, 12:03 PM
Working on figuring out some loads myself. I notice reference to using Universal Clays for 9mm and .45 acp. Alliant developed 20/28 to pretty much duplicate Universal in shotgun loads - has anyone developed any load data for 9 /.45 using 20/28? I buy 8lb jugs of 20/28 for 20 gauge and 28 gauge skeet loads so I have it around.

I also have 3-4 lbs of Blue Dot that I got some time ago for .357 loads. I see some use of Blue Dot in the 9 - but it seems to be a love it/hate it deal. Is BD a feasible 9mm load (thinking 115 gr plated bullets) at least until the current feeding frenzy is over with?

kludge
March 26, 2013, 12:16 PM
For upper level .40 S&W loads with low flash, SR 4756, No.7, and Universal, in that order.

If accuracy is more important than low flash, then No.7 would be my choice.

They work in 9mm 115 and 125gr loads as well.

All are very clean burning, with Universal probably the cleanest.

12Bravo20
March 26, 2013, 12:22 PM
I use Hodgdon Universal for all my pistol reloading. I like to keep things simple and not have a bunch of different powders around. I reload .380, 9mm, 9mm Largo, .40S&W, and .45ACP. Universal works good thru my Lee Autodisk. It constantly measures 0.1Gr below what the Lee charts call for on the disks.

JO JO
March 26, 2013, 02:12 PM
Thanks ALL
low flash , clean, meters well are what Im looking for I use the rcbs uni flow,
I have thought about unique but read that its on the dirty side and wont meter well ?
case fill is also a big +

cajun executioner
March 26, 2013, 05:34 PM
Hmmm. I am new to reloading and just bought 8lbs of HS6. I also bought 2lbs of Power Pistol. I bought these powders because it was what I could find. I will be loading 9mm and .40.

Arkansas Paul
March 26, 2013, 05:36 PM
Bullseye for me. Although Unique, Universal or 231/HP38 would all work great.

wackemanstackem
March 26, 2013, 06:12 PM
Cajun I load alot of 40s talkin 1000s monthly and I use power pistol 6.4 grns with a 155jhp and it is a very mild good shootin load try a few to make sure your gun ejects them it is on the light side.I have found it to be very good for my gun am now shootin px4 storm f .You can work it up just keep an eye on your pressure .And I also have used the h6 its up a little more on the powder about depending on 125 grn or 155grn.Both are good 40 powders.

buffytvs
March 26, 2013, 06:20 PM
I use titegroup with 115gr jacketed for 9mm, and with 155gr plated in 40. 9mm is used in a Taurus PT92, Walther P1, and Home built 9mm AR. 40 shot through XDsc. Powder metered through lee auto disk. I have found this powder to be very accurate on these platforms, consistent in metering, and relatively clean.

tootall
March 26, 2013, 06:33 PM
I have also settled on H Universal for all but magnum pistol loads. 9mm, 40 SW, 38 SPL, 45 Colt and ACP.

Using H110 in magnum

W748 in most rifle. 5.56 and 7.62. 4198 in bolt 223 and 308.

Less to stock and rotate usage.


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Jurist
March 26, 2013, 06:45 PM
I'm with rcmodel,Unique is truly unique

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