What's a toggle-bolt action?


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greenr18
March 29, 2013, 10:59 PM
What's a toggle-bolt on a bolt action rifle? Like Olympic type rifles that have them, is it just a short "flickable" straight pull for something like a .22LR? Can someone explain? Thanks

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gspn
March 29, 2013, 11:08 PM
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kyhunter
March 29, 2013, 11:12 PM
http://www.gunblast.com/RAA-Biathlon.htm

Scroll down if youve never seen one looking at it open and shut is pretty self explanatory of how they work.

dmazur
March 29, 2013, 11:22 PM
Look at this -

http://primaryweapons.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=266

While it is a conversion of a 10/22, I think it shows what a toggle bolt looks like.

There was a discussion of the relative merits of this action, and I found two listed:

1. It lets you eject and load the next round without taking your eyes off the target. Apparently useful for biathlon competitors.

2. It makes a good "host" for a suppressor, as there isn't any action noise associated with the shot.

greenr18
March 30, 2013, 10:20 AM
Thanks dmazur and kyhunter, also gspn do you think your post was worth it?

chicharrones
March 30, 2013, 10:31 AM
Browning has made a toggle bolt for some time that I wouldn't mind having.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMg4V-h3-2g

http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/finder.asp?f1=021B

taliv
March 30, 2013, 10:40 AM
Huh never heard of that before

car15bill
March 31, 2013, 08:43 PM
browning t bolt is a straight pull, i thought?

MountainBear
April 1, 2013, 12:50 AM
Look at this -

http://primaryweapons.com/store/pc/v...?idproduct=266

While it is a conversion of a 10/22, I think it shows what a toggle bolt looks like.

Damn it. Now there's another project I don't need... :)

Girodin
April 1, 2013, 03:16 AM
BTW, that Russian biathlon KO rifle was a great gun that people just didn't know they should be buying and I'm not sure they are imported anymore. They cost $250-300. They were much more accurate than most shooters and probably a match for anything short of an anschutz that cost 4-5x the money. If I saw one tomorrow and a decent price I wouldn't hesitate to buy it.

Pete D.
April 1, 2013, 06:29 AM
Toggle bolt. Fortner bolt.
Like this....
http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr287/PeteDoyle/1827-Fortner-big.jpg
Hand grips gun. Finger on the trigger. Thumb on the rear of the bolt. Touch the trigger. Bang. Rotate the hand at the wrist. Trigger finger comes up and catches the toggle and opens the bolt. Rotate hand down and the thumb pushes the bolt closed. Bang.
Can be done very rapidly. It is all in the wrist.
Pete

chicharrones
April 1, 2013, 08:14 AM
browning t bolt is a straight pull, i thought?

You know, you may be right! The Browning bolt doesn't rely on a toggle to go over center to lock the action. It pushes locking lugs into position.

Being called a T-Bolt does confuse things a bit. :)

RainDodger
April 1, 2013, 09:59 AM
When I heard "toggle bolt" I immediately thought of a Luger action. I believe that's also a toggle bolt.

SDC
April 1, 2013, 07:23 PM
Here's a video of a toggle-bolt 22 being fired: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFbekxI6fNQ

PGT
April 8, 2013, 04:25 PM
I just picked one up. Its slick!

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/PatagonianGT/GunStuff/Izhmash%20Biathlon%20Basic%207-2%20KO/th_DSC00939.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/PatagonianGT/media/GunStuff/Izhmash%20Biathlon%20Basic%207-2%20KO/DSC00939.jpg.html) http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/PatagonianGT/GunStuff/Izhmash%20Biathlon%20Basic%207-2%20KO/th_DSC00938.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/PatagonianGT/media/GunStuff/Izhmash%20Biathlon%20Basic%207-2%20KO/DSC00938.jpg.html)

Pete D.
April 11, 2013, 05:07 AM
The toggle bolt in competition used by a top shooter. Standing. No scope. Rapid fire.
Check this video on YouTube:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IDZgG4oXev8&feature=related
Or
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A7_TID07DBo
Or this one
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8g01Ge_8PQU&feature=related
Pete

Ash
April 11, 2013, 06:17 AM
The Luger is indeed a toggle bolt. The bolt holds the action closed until it is broken by the bump in the frame as the slide assembly moves back. Were the Luger built on a solid frame and not a slide, it would be a bolt-action repeater that was operated by grasping the knobs and pulling up. As far as I can tell, toggle bolt actions simply take the concept, turn it on its side, and add a handle. I could be wrong but the physics seem to be the same.

briansmithwins
April 11, 2013, 09:15 AM
Toggle bolts are also used by Maxim type machine guns, driven by recoil.

BSW

morcey2
April 11, 2013, 09:34 AM
... also gspn do you think your post was worth it?
Relax. gspn was tagging the thread because he wanted to know the answer also. That's usually what a post like that means.

Matt

RainDodger
April 11, 2013, 09:58 AM
Ash, you are correct. Most people that own a Luger would agree... and there IS in fact a bolt - that thing that slides back and forth... and there IS in fact a pair of "toggle handles" (kind of "knobs") you grab between your fingers to pull the bolt back. (unlike what the post somewhere above yours says... ) :)

Just sayin'

All in fun.

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