Walther MPK?


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Yelovitz_503
March 31, 2013, 06:18 PM
I've been after one of these for sometime but I understand it falls under the SBR category. I have several questions on this matter:

1) Is the MPL also under the SBR umbrella?

2) As these are discontinued models, what is the availability of these items?

3) Do either the MPK or MPL models come with a single fire only design or are they all full autos (and subject to a ton of paperwork)?

4) Assuming I can even find one of these items, what would the process be for obtaining it? I have no criminal record whatsoever and am already a licensed CHL holder. Legally there should be nothing disqualifying me from passing all the NFA stuff but I want to know about it in a bit more depth before committing to anything.

In addition to these questions I'd just like to know if anyone has any experience with these weapons.. do you own one, or have you used one? How do they compare to the staples of the SMG community? To get an idea of my general preferences I have used both MP5s and Uzis in the past and immediately fell in love with the Uzi, while being somewhat unimpressed with the MP5 N (both were chambered in 9mm).

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Sam Cade
April 1, 2013, 12:47 AM
1) Is the MPL also under the SBR umbrella?

2) As these are discontinued models, what is the availability of these items?

3) Do either the MPK or MPL models come with a single fire only design or are they all full autos (and subject to a ton of paperwork)?


As machineguns they have no barrel length restrictions. I am not aware of any semi-auto variant of the design.
Price seems to be $10-12,000





4) Assuming I can even find one of these items, what would the process be for obtaining it?
Q: What are the required transfer procedures for an individual who is not qualified as a manufacturer, importer, or dealer of NFA firearms?

ATF Form 4 (5320.4) must be completed, in duplicate. The transferor first completes the face of the form. The transferee completes the transferee’s certification on the reverse of the form and must have the “Law Enforcement Certification” completed by the chief law enforcement officer.

The transferee is to place, on each copy of the form, a 2-inch by 2-inch photograph of the transferee taken within the past year (proofs, group photographs or photocopies are unacceptable). The transferee’s address must be a street address, not a post office box. If there is no street address, specific directions to the residence must be included.

If State or local law requires a permit or license to purchase, possess, or receive NFA firearms, a copy of the transferee’s permit or license must accompany the application. A check or money order for $200 ($5 for transfer of “any other weapon”) shall be made payable to ATF by the transferor. All signatures on both copies must be in ink.

Fingerprints also must be submitted on FBI Form FD-258, in duplicate. Fingerprints must be taken by a person qualified to do so, and must be clear and classifiable. If wear or damage to the fingertips do not allow clear prints, and if the prints are taken by a law enforcement official, a statement on his or her official letterhead giving the reason why good prints are unobtainable should accompany the fingerprints.

Forward the completed application and appropriate tax payment to the Bureau of ATF, National Firearms Act Branch, P.O. Box 530298, Atlanta, GA 30353-0298.

Transfer of the NFA firearm may be made only upon approval of the ATF Form 4 by the NFA Branch. If the application is approved, the original of the form with the cancelled stamp affixed showing approval will be returned to the applicant. If the tax application is denied, the tax will be refunded.

Upon approval of the ATF Form 4, the transferor should transfer the firearm as soon as possible, since the firearm is now registered to the transferee.

[26 U.S.C. 5812, 27 CFR 479.84-86]

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/national-firearms-act-firearms.html#transfer-procedure

maxyedor
April 1, 2013, 12:53 AM
You need to find a transferable MPL/MPK and a dealer to do the transfer before you go any further. As far as I can find, they were never produced as a semi-auto, so you need one that was registered prior to the ban, or has been modified to eliminate the full auto function, though I believe even at that point, it would need a new receiver. A whole new receiver would be the third potential option, you would have to track down a parts kit, and figure out what to modify as you build so that it can never go into full auto.

As far as the SBR issue. If you buy a transferable MG, that supercedes the SBR tax stamp IIRC. If you were to build one from scratch, you could extend the barrel to 16"+ and make sure you meet OAL requirements and avoid the tax stamp and NFA paperwork, otherwise both would be considered an SBR.

I'm not sure what form you'd have to fill out for the transfer, being in California, I don't even have that option, post-samples and friends in the movie industry are all I get. I know there are a couple in the vault at one of the prop houses I've been to, cool guns for sure, and I'd love to have one if I were able to. I know there are transferable MPL/MPKs out there, you just have to wait for one to come up for sale, and hope it never breaks as parts are nearly non-existent.

tarosean
April 1, 2013, 01:17 AM
I know there are transferable MPL/MPKs out there, you just have to wait for one to come up for sale, and hope it never breaks as parts are nearly non-existent.

They are pretty rare, I havent seen a Pre May in quite some time.

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