New Summit Press: Cross between a Hollywood and a Forster


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GW Staar
March 31, 2013, 10:29 PM
RCBS has a brand new video out demonstrating this press.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHoDgBdGYd4
I'm tempted to add a third press....the footprint is pretty small and the open mouth is very interesting....to lefthanders especially.

New video on the Universal Prep Station too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=u7VKe5u4TXo

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Jesse Heywood
April 1, 2013, 03:23 AM
Interesting. Nothing below the benchtop to knock knees, not even the lever.

Kevin Rohrer
April 1, 2013, 07:46 PM
It IS very interesting. Apparently the only similar design is made in England. I saw a pic of one on another site.

I wonder why something like this has not become popular before. I wonder if moving the die instead of the casing will negatively affect bullet runout.

ReloaderFred
April 1, 2013, 07:55 PM
I worked one at the SHOT Show in January and my primary question was if it had anymore lever advantage than the Rockchucker. I was told it was the same leverage as the RC.

The footprint is small, so it doesn't take up much room on the bench, which may be an advantage to some people.

Hope this helps.

Fred

GW Staar
April 2, 2013, 01:19 AM
It IS very interesting. Apparently the only similar design is made in England. I saw a pic of one on another site.

I wonder why something like this has not become popular before. I wonder if moving the die instead of the casing will negatively affect bullet runout.

There's a current thread on the old Holiday press....check it out. But on that once popular press the case moves not the die.

The other press that moves the dies to the stationary case is the Dillon 1050 progressive. The RCBS video said runout is affected positively not negatively, but I'm not sure how or why.

Cleftwynd
April 2, 2013, 03:12 AM
If you watch the RCBS video demonstrating the Summit, you can see the runout on the loaded rifle round....lol

rayatphonix
April 2, 2013, 08:56 AM
How do you see runout on the video?

fguffey
April 2, 2013, 10:41 AM
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The seating die does not touch the case unless the die is adjusted to apply a crimp, on the first case the bullet is not straight, not a problem (most of the time), the bullet aligns with the case while riding the inside of the die, meaning the die aligns the bullet with the mouth of the case. Problem, when the base of the bullet is flat and there is no chamfer on the inside of the case mouth there is a chance the case mouth, neck and or shoulder can distort when seating bullets.

There are expensive seating dies that make alignment fail safe, I have guides that do not need a die, again, the die does not support the case. Complicated? There are times the guide wants to keep the case and bullet.

F. Guffey

Certaindeaf
April 2, 2013, 10:48 AM
Pretty neat. I wonder just how well the primers would actually find their way into that tiny cup though.

GW Staar
April 2, 2013, 01:01 PM
The fact that the shellholder doesn't move and that there is a good ramp where the primers are spit out, tells me, from my own experience in making my Rock Chucker II spit spent primers 100 percent into a cup, that the primers go there 100% too....and no moving shellplate means no straw necessary.
This video (http://s935.photobucket.com/user/gstrad/media/BetterDepriming1.mp4.html) demonstrates how efficient a simple ramp can be.

As for the tiny cup, I think the video also demonstrates what I plan on doing with that pip squeak cup......a drill, some epoxy, a .357 case, and some clear tubing to a bucket or cup will fix it!

Certaindeaf
April 2, 2013, 01:29 PM
I hear you. It's still a C press though. just kidding

Walkalong
April 2, 2013, 09:45 PM
That is a very cool press.

NeuseRvrRat
April 2, 2013, 11:19 PM
why wouldn't they just route the spent primers straight down through the bottom into a plastic tube like Lee does?

blarby
April 2, 2013, 11:32 PM
Because nobody copies lee... it would acknowledge that they did something right.

In this case, the dang tube wouldn't even move- making it absolutely foolproof.

I think their thinking went along the lines of "nothing under the bench"... although I suppose they exempted bolts.

Julian537
April 2, 2013, 11:33 PM
I too think the design is cool. I like how the front of the press is wide open. nothing in the way of loading a case in it. I was going to purchase one of these, if I could not find a hollywood senior press, but I found a Senior turret! I am going to purchase it tomorrow!!!!!

NeuseRvrRat
April 2, 2013, 11:42 PM
I think their thinking went along the lines of "nothing under the bench"... although I suppose they exempted bolts.

that's a good point. i bet it'd be pretty easy to drill a hole through it, fill in that gap with JB Weld, and never get a spent primer lodged in your bare foot again.

nix4me
April 2, 2013, 11:45 PM
I think RCBS should send me one for testing. Should take me a few years to sufficiently test it out.

Rollis R. Karvellis
April 3, 2013, 12:04 AM
Without getting into the soap opera part, most of my reloading stuff was sold, or given away.

I, kept my 650, and my Orange Crusher. With the plan of getting a Foster's for all my single stage work, the Lyman for bullet swaging and the 650 for the big runs.

Now I, not sure if the RCBS wouldn't be better.

Otto
April 3, 2013, 01:13 AM
The Summit looks like it would be awkward to use while sitting. I guess thats why they include a shorter handle.

Jesse Heywood
April 3, 2013, 02:30 AM
The Summit looks like it would be awkward to use while sitting. I guess thats why they include a shorter handle.

If you're seated, the bench would need to be lap high, like a computer desk. Move the chair back with the long arm, move in closer with the short.

I won't rush out and buy one, but would like to have one a year or so down the road.

noylj
April 3, 2013, 04:09 AM
Unless it had a slot for die insertion (eliminating screwing the die down) and a Universal shall holder like the Co-Ax (and it doesn't), I think I'll stick to my Co-Ax.

GW Staar
April 4, 2013, 01:55 AM
Well, it does have the large threaded bushing tailor made for a Hornady LnL conversion, if that sort of thing is important to someone, just like the Rock Chucker.

I wouldn't sell my Forster if I had one either nor do I plan to give up my Rock Chucker. I plan to just add to the fun.....can't have too many presses.:)

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