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ochadd
April 1, 2013, 04:06 PM
Over the weekend we scheduled a prairie dog hunt for May knowing ammo was going to be tight. I went home and started making ammo figuring I'd need 600-700 rounds for the trip and practice, knowing I'd probably be short. Of course I'm out of powder now and short on rounds. The non-reloaders in my family can't find regular .223 ammo anywhere and I can't even find enough supplies to get myself ready to go. Forget about me helping them out. Local stores won't take preorders or backorders and they're all rationing first come first serve. Try to walk in to a store and buy 2500 rounds of ammo these days...

There are apparently enough crazies out there to empty the supply chain of all things .223 and .308. If you're one of the crazies snatching up decades worth of reloading supplies I hope your paranoid friends rob your bunker blind. :banghead: Zombies aren't real, no civil war, the US is not being invaded, and no one is confiscating ammo. Damnit all anyway.

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evan price
April 1, 2013, 04:11 PM
Thanks for not planning ahead. It made my hoarding so much easier.

You can still find ammo, you just need to be at Walmart in the wee hours when they unload the truck and stock shelves.

GT1
April 1, 2013, 04:16 PM
I'm sorry you didn't plan ahead so you can go turn little critters into red mist.

In all seriousness the ammo and shooting supplies run started back in December, where were you and your buddies hiding out for three months?

Torian
April 1, 2013, 04:19 PM
There is plenty of ammo, it's just not on store shelves.

If you want to buy more than a couple boxes, you aren't going to be able to do it in the store anyways. That's called buying in bulk, and best done online.

sean eady
April 1, 2013, 04:21 PM
You can buy any ammo you want....Right now its all about how much your willing to pay. Its a time of the have's and have not's........guess you fell victim to the second of the two.

dirtykid
April 1, 2013, 04:23 PM
I can still walk into my local Fleet-Farm and purchase .223 ammo,
Granted , its $1 per shot,and only 200-rounds per-person-per day
but its available
Look on here, in the classifieds, I just ordered .224 55gr pills from a guy,
or you can on Gunbroker,and pay a lot more, but its out there.....

mdi
April 1, 2013, 04:27 PM
I'm not a hoarder, I just planned ahead for when my income got tight (I knew I was going to retire and my income dropped). I made it part of my reloading hobby; procuring lead, primers, and powder. I bought stuff on sale, and when I went to the box store I usually picked up at least 1 brick of 22 LRs. When yobummer was re elected, I increased my purchasing a bit, because of the obvious anti-gun policies (just look at the anti's attacks on guns; ammo control. They aren't having much success attacking guns themselves, but no problems jumping on ammo availability).

It' really childish to blame reloaders for the shortages, as most of the "hoarders" I know don't reload. Actually, the term "hoarders" term doesn't fit 'cause they use their ammo, and don't keep it for WSHTF...

Arkansas Paul
April 1, 2013, 04:28 PM
Cry me a freakin river.
You had just as much opportunity to stock up as anyone did when things were good. Now that they're bad, you don't have anyone to blame but yourself. You stock up while it's readily available, then you don't have to worry about shortages.
For the record, I don't have everything I want, but I'm not whining about people who were smarter than I was.

david_r
April 1, 2013, 04:32 PM
thanks for the laugh. I'm going to go shoot some reloads i put together last night - all with components I bought this year.

waaaaah

Teachu2
April 1, 2013, 04:43 PM
This is like waiting until the second day of a hurricane to try to buy a generator.....

dagger dog
April 1, 2013, 04:46 PM
Now Boys !

Play nice !

bds
April 1, 2013, 04:49 PM
ochadd, you CAN find .223/.308 ammo. You just have to PAY for them. :D

.223 ammo - http://www.gunbot.net/ammo/223-556/

.308 ammo - http://www.gunbot.net/ammo/308-762nato/


As to reloading components, they are available but sell out fast (often within hours). We have been networking to alert each other when reloading components are in stock - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=8843093#post8843093

Matt Dillon
April 1, 2013, 04:50 PM
Bad_planning_on_your_part_does_not_constitute_an_emergency_on_my_part!

Let me guess, did you vote for Obama?

oneounceload
April 1, 2013, 04:53 PM
there is plenty of ammo, it's just not on store shelves.

If you want to buy more than a couple boxes, you aren't going to be able to do it in the store anyways. That's called buying in bulk, and best done online.

bingo

kerreckt
April 1, 2013, 04:54 PM
For the past 30 years or so, I have kept about a years worth of reloading supplies stockpiled. That is, if I can't buy any more supplies tomorrow. I have enough for about a year. I have never considered this hoarding but rather planning ahead. I started reloading so that I can be self sufficient. If you haven't planned ahead you have no one to blame but yourself. Hate to be so blunt about it but thems the facts.

joeschmoe
April 1, 2013, 04:56 PM
You NEED a last minute purchase of 2500 rounds for a prairie dog hunt? But didn't consider price or availability before?
Let me guess, you want it cheap too?

You blame "hoarders"?

There is plenty of ammo and supplies. Market price. Make me an offer and I'll get you your 2500 rounds plus reloading supplies. It won't be cheap.

joeschmoe
April 1, 2013, 04:58 PM
This is like waiting until the second day of a hurricane to try to buy a generator.....
Not only that, but he's blaming others for his failure.

ochadd
April 1, 2013, 05:03 PM
I call stocking up for a year at a time pretty well prepared. Hindsight being 20/20 I'd have bought a little more. I don't blame reloaders who are shooting their ammo. I've talked to every shop owner within 90 miles of here and they all have the same story. Couple guys come in and buy every bullet and pound of powder on the shelf. There are guys lined up behind them all wanting to do the same.
They're not shooting it. They're sitting it in the basement waiting for the day you can't buy ammo and/or hoping to make a buck on artificially inflated prices. They're the people causing the run on supplies in the first place.

Manny
April 1, 2013, 05:08 PM
Guess you better get ready to pony up some cash or cancel your plans. Ammo IS available, and varmint type seems to be the most available of all, but it sure isn't cheap. You might also look to other rounds that are available such as 17 HMR, .204 Ruger, .22-250 or .243, all of which I've seen available since the ammo run started.

If you just discovered ammo's tough to find then you obviously haven't been paying attention even a little bit since last Christmas, nor since a very similar ammo drought occured after the 2008 election. If you can't be bothered to put in some minimal thought and effort into planning than expect no sympathy from me. Putting something back in times of plenty for times of need IS NOT hoarding, it's prudence and planning ahead.

For those who are true hoarders, buying up any and everything leaving nothing for others, regardless of their need, I have no love for them and hope they buy at the top of the market and lose a bundle down the road.

Arkansas Paul
April 1, 2013, 05:13 PM
I've talked to every shop owner within 90 miles of here and they all have the same story. Couple guys come in and buy every bullet and pound of powder on the shelf. There are guys lined up behind them all wanting to do the same.
They're not shooting it. They're sitting it in the basement waiting for the day you can't buy ammo and/or hoping to make a buck on artificially inflated prices.

This is why WalMart started limiting ammo to 3 boxes per person. Small gun shops were buying everything they had and selling it at a 300% markup. The blame for the shortage lies with people who are willing to pay the exorbitant prices in the first place.

45lcshooter
April 1, 2013, 05:13 PM
I can walk into any of my stores and get what I need, on the web I find my extra goodies.

The tip is nothing is hording, some people shoot a lot more than most, so they are going to need Kore components. I myself, I have all my firearms sighted in to where they need to be, I don't go out back and just shoot because I want to shoot. I don't go on hunts to go on hunts. My money is wrapped up in reloading supplies, and new guns.

You need to be in the right place at the right time, I work 75 hours a week, and sometimes I still find myself in the right place at the right time, even for the "panic/hoarding calibers"

joeschmoe
April 1, 2013, 05:13 PM
They're sitting it in the basement waiting for the day you can't buy ammo and/or hoping to make a buck on artificially inflated prices. They're the people causing the run on supplies in the first place.
So your blaming me because I haven't bought ammo in years? I have ammo and components sitting in my basement because I thought there might be a day when you can't buy ammo.
You and your family planned a trip but didn't have a plan for ammo? That's my fault or yours? Ask your shooting pals if they voted pro 2nd amendment. Or will they next time?

I hope ammo prices keep skyrocketing. I want investors to start pouring in to this industry because of all the obscene profits that are being made.

I hope that everyone who is crying now about ammo learns a their lessons well. Stock up in bulk, pile it deep and vote pro 2nd amendment.

joeschmoe
April 1, 2013, 05:23 PM
I also bought a first aid kit and a fire extinguisher because I'm afraid I can't just drive to the store when I need them.
Is that hoarding too? Do you wait until after the hurricane hits to buy batteries and a radio and blame "hoarders" who bought theirs years in advance?

ochadd
April 1, 2013, 05:27 PM
Everyone is saying planning, planning, planning. I personally had stock piled 1 year 3 months of reloading supplies for .223, as it turns out. Still have primers, bullets, and some brass for that particular caliber but no powder. What I'm probably going to do is make some military pull powder work in .223 and miss the hell out of prairie dogs. Supplement that with a .270 and 300 Win mag that just became dog town rifles.

KansasSasquatch
April 1, 2013, 05:30 PM
Your 6-700 rounds that you need for your little trip equates to some people's 6 month supply. Maybe they should blame you for not being able to get their semi-annual allotment.

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