AR Ammo...what was price per rd before the madness?


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daveit
April 1, 2013, 07:57 PM
Looking to pickup some 5.56, but I just built my first AR, so I do not know what a good price per round is.

I have a 16" 1/7 barrel, so I'm thinking I want something like 62g XM855 versus the lighter stuff, but I'm open to suggestions.

I'm seeing so far is 85.9 cents for 1000 rds at Lucky Gunner...

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Reloadron
April 1, 2013, 08:15 PM
About 25 to 30 cents a round give or take when buying bulk. Lucky Gunner is a den of thieves. Given some time, maybe a few months, hopefully prices will get back to close to normal. Right now the stuff is scarce and prices high driven by demand. I am seeing 70 to 75 cents a round at gun shows as of a few weeks ago. Really a matter of what it is worth to you and what you are willing to pay.

<EDIT> Seeing USAF_Vet's post I forgot about the steel cased stuff and my prices were based on ammunition like Federal re-loadable brass cases. </EDIT>

Ron

USAF_Vet
April 1, 2013, 08:17 PM
Cheapest non-bulk AR ammo I found pre panic was .223 steel cased, which was about $0.20 per round. .223 brass cased was slightly more expensive, but less than $0.25 per round. 5.56 brass cased was usually about $0.25-.27 a round.

These are boxes of 20. If you could buy in bulk, you could save a decent amount. Never got my hands on any military surplus, so all prices were commercial factory rounds.

daveit
April 1, 2013, 08:36 PM
Cool, thanks fellas! I'll see how long I can wait it out...

ford8nr
April 1, 2013, 08:39 PM
I use to get (Pre December) Federal XM193, 55gr Lake City brass for $325 / 1000. I've seen PMC brass recently for $9.99/20

taliv
April 1, 2013, 08:46 PM
I bought prvi m193 for $320/k last summer

browningguy
April 1, 2013, 09:11 PM
I was paying $28-33 per 50 rounds for Blackhills, depending on which bullet you chose.

Onewolf
April 1, 2013, 09:48 PM
In Sept I paid $0.35/rd for 2000 rounds of PRVI m193 from BulkAmmo.com

silicosys4
April 1, 2013, 10:11 PM
Three years ago I paid $259 for 1k brass cased reloadable 62 gr. 5.56 ammo from Turkey, labeled as "American Tactical". Two years ago I paid $279/1k for commercial reloads of 62 gr. 5.56 from freedommunitions.com. Last summer it was up to $305, at freedommunitions, then rght before the panic in early December it was up to $330/1k on 62gr 5.56 commercial reloads. Hasn't been available since, that I've seen, but their price is now $670/1k.

Hummer70
April 1, 2013, 10:19 PM
two years ago I got two 420 round cans of M855 in Ohio for 199.00 a can.

gotigers
April 1, 2013, 10:44 PM
mid 2011 <$300/1000 for Fed XM193 and <$200/1000 for Wolf.

mid 2012 ~$350/1000 for Fed XM193 and ~$250/1000 for Wolf

early 2012 Walmart had the 420 can of 855 for $169

Cal-gun Fan
April 1, 2013, 10:51 PM
Ahh the good ol' days :D I'd be happy to just find some Varget to reload...

Fishbed77
April 1, 2013, 10:55 PM
early 2012 Walmart had the 420 can of 855 for $169

During the summer of 2011, I bought several 420-round cans of M855 for $119.

I wish I had bought more!

Steve H
April 1, 2013, 11:04 PM
Lucky Gunner.................good news is they have ammo - bad new is their prices are obscene

Farnorthdan
April 2, 2013, 12:26 AM
I was able to pick up a few of the federal 420rd cans from walmart a month ago for $176 per can, they got 80 cans in limit of 3 per customer and sold out in less than an hour.

dirtykid
April 2, 2013, 01:02 AM
Just last summer , Our local Fleet-Farm was selling federal 55gr FMJ 200-packs for $79
Even after our ridicolous localsales tax it still came out to .43-cents / shot

And I was happy !!!

Now I see guys selling the same stuff online for $1 /round
Luckily every time I went near the store last year,I went and bought a box, (to get the .04-cent gas coupon with purchase) and managed to accrue about 1800-rounds

Problem is now,Im afraid to shoot it for fear of the unknown replacement cost !!

MachIVshooter
April 2, 2013, 11:40 AM
Just before the panic, steel cased was typically $0.25/rd, best I saw on brass was $0.33/rd.

jrdolall
April 2, 2013, 11:58 AM
Last summer Academy was selling a box of 20 steel cased .223 and 7.62x39 for $5.19 every day and mid $4 range on sale. With tax that came to $.28 per round regular price. I bought 20 boxes at a time when it went on sale so I have plenty on hand.

GCBurner
April 2, 2013, 12:50 PM
The last loaded .223 I got was some Federal surplus 62 gr. from the CMP, 200 rounds on SAW links for $70, or $0.35 per round. Every fifth round is a tracer, though.

JustinJ
April 2, 2013, 01:12 PM
I didn't see any brass 5.56 for 25 cents a round just before the panic. Even before the panic there seemed to be a minor jump in price with about 32 to 35 cents/round seeming to be on the low end in bulk.

Longrifle2506
April 2, 2013, 02:55 PM
Fortunately in September, I decided to buy 420 rounds of Federal Lake City 5.56 mm 62 grain steel core; I think it's called "m855" or something. I got it from Natchez for $179.99; now that same ammo is going for up to $400-$450 on Gunbroker. It's hard to believe that there are people who are willing to pay that for it. It made me think about selling mine; but it's too valuable to me. I bought my Coyote Carbine a little over 2 years ago; and I ordered 17 boxes of Federal Premium Tactical TRU law enforcement rounds for $16 per box from the Sportsman's Guide. I don't know what the premium ammo cost today; my TRU ammo is 64 grain Hi Shok soft point. I thought that $16 for a box of 20 premium rounds was a very good price even in 2010. I zeroed my coyote carbine and shot groups with one box and I still got 16 boxes stashed. I have a feeling that in the near future; we will not be able to purchase ammunition online. I could be wrong and I hope I am. Crazy times we are living in; but anyway I hope this gives you a good idea of a good price on both bulk ammo and premium ammo before all the madness. Bulk Lake City: 420 rnds = $179.99 --- Fed. premium TRU 340 rnds = $272

redneck2
April 2, 2013, 07:49 PM
Another thing to consider is that prices of lead and copper are REALLY jumping up. Pure lead scrap is going for 62 cents around here.

jeff-10
April 2, 2013, 07:55 PM
I bought 100 round value packs of Federal .223 for $34.99 at Wal Mart up until December 2012 or so. So 35 cents/round.

Warp
April 2, 2013, 08:24 PM
Summer/fall of 2012:

Federal XM193: $360/1k shipped
Prvi Partizan M193: $340/1k shipped
Federal XM855, 420 rounds on strippers in .30 can: $170-$200

AFTER the election in November:
PMC Bronze .223: $336/1k shipped
Prvi Partizan 75gr BTHP 'match' ammo: $469/1k

I didn't see any brass 5.56 for 25 cents a round just before the panic.

Because there wasn't any.


Just before the panic, steel cased was typically $0.25/rd, best I saw on brass was $0.33/rd.

This ^^^ is correct

oneounceload
April 2, 2013, 09:59 PM
Get used to the new normal in pricing - it won't come down until the hoarders, flippers, and panic buyers stop clearing out the shelves every week

Warp
April 2, 2013, 10:04 PM
Get used to the new normal in pricing - it won't come down until the hoarders, flippers, and panic buyers stop clearing out the shelves every week

Flippers don't cause the shelves to be clear. Either the people buying from them on the secondary market or the retailer not charging enough to begin with would be who you are looking to 'blame' for that.

Cee Zee
April 4, 2013, 04:33 PM
Get used to the new normal in pricing - it won't come down until the hoarders, flippers, and panic buyers stop clearing out the shelves every week

I paid $10 a box for several boxes of Remington UMC yesterday. My rifle actually shoots if well. I could have bought Federal, American Eagle, Hornady and several other brands all at the same prices I saw before the panic. The normal variety wasn't available. I usually buy Black Hills ammo there. But what they had, and they had a truckload of it, was all priced at pre-panic prices.

I bought it at Vance's in Columbus. They do sell over the net but they sell at higher prices usually. But anyone in central Ohio might want to stop by. They had .45, 9mm, and a whole bunch of stuff I haven't seen for a while. I did just miss the .22 ammo. But from what I gathered they were getting a steady supply of that. Maybe that isn't the case. I overheard some people talking and I didn't really ask when it might be back in stock because I won't be back there for a month anyway. But there was no big line to buy ammo. In fact I got right in at the counter in the back where they have the good ammo stored. Usually I have to take a number and wait. I didn't wait at all yesterday. My guess is they have had ammo for a while and the locals have bought all they want.

Zoogster
April 4, 2013, 04:45 PM
Here is some brass cased .223 in stock for $0.28 a round:

https://www.canadaammo.com/product/detail/379/norinco-223-rem-5-56-ammo-crate-of-1600/




5.56x45 (223 Remington) M193 Ball Cartridges

55 Grain FMJ

Copper Jacket, Range Safe

Brass-cased, Boxer Primed, RELOADABLE - NON-CORROSIVE

Available in Boxes of 20 rounds, Cans of 800 or Crates of 1600






























But it is Norinco and you can't have it! While the majority of products in society available may be made in China, you cannot have Chinese firearms or ammunition.

mdauben
April 4, 2013, 05:04 PM
Pre-panic, my FLGS was selling 100 rnd boxes of American Eagle 5.56mm for $34.95 or about 35 per round.

95XL883
April 4, 2013, 06:26 PM
I got lucky this morning at WallyWorld. 300 rounds of Federal .223 55 grain for $111 (tax included.) I'm learning to show up every morning (except Wednesday and Sunday, they don't get deliveries those days) a few minutes before seven. There are about 7 of us who show up then. I'm pretty sure everybody is for their own use. The manager tries to run off the re-sellers.

Warp
April 4, 2013, 06:50 PM
I got lucky this morning at WallyWorld. 300 rounds of Federal .223 55 grain for $111 (tax included.) I'm learning to show up every morning (except Wednesday and Sunday, they don't get deliveries those days) a few minutes before seven. There are about 7 of us who show up then. I'm pretty sure everybody is for their own use. The manager tries to run off the re-sellers.

How in the world can own use buyers be told from re-sellers?

So the manager makes a judgement call and decides who gets to buy from Walmart, and who doesn't?

95XL883
April 4, 2013, 09:02 PM
Can't definitely tell but it is a guess from their age, dress and demeanor. The guys I'm seeing come in separately, are in their 50's and 60's (except for one young guy), are friendly and relaxed. Some are looking for 9's, some for 22's, some for 223's.

Apparently there were four or five guys who only showed up as a group and only on days ammo was delivered. The speculation was they knew when ammo was being delivered. One of them apparently indicated they were re-selling. I don't think he ever refused to sell to them but when he asked them to leave some for the other guys they apparently got surly.

The managers somehow changed the unloading to limit who knew when ammo is in a shipment. Since then I've not heard about that group.

I'm not a high volume shooter so I'll pass on the next round of 223's, but 9's and 22's are still on my want list.

jrdolall
April 5, 2013, 11:22 AM
The manager at my local Walmart solved the problem by loading ammo at differetn times and some days skipping altogether after several complaints from regulars, like me, that he was always out of everything when we came in which is generally in the evening. They still sell put quickly but I have at least scored a box or three over the past few months. .22lr is all I am looking for as I have plenty of everything else.

Cee Zee
April 5, 2013, 09:20 PM
Where I used to live everyone knew everyone else so it wasn't hard to know who was working at the gun shops and buying ammo to resell or the guys who were selling at flea markets. I actually had people from gun shops ask me where I was buying ammo because I told them I could get it at half the price they were selling it for. That was back in 2009 during the first panic. I don't go back to that shop. I know several others that treat people a lot better.

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