Time to turn in the C&R?


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Quoheleth
April 2, 2013, 03:45 PM
I got my C&R FFL a little over a year ago. Haven't bought a single firearm with it, but have used it once (just once) to save a little scratch from Midway.

I'm seriously considering contacting the BATFE and turning over/surrendering my license.

Between today's UN decision and stuff tied up in courthouses and legislatures all over the United States, I just don't need any hassle by a member of the alphabet squad or heartache of one miss-dotted I or uncrossed T could cause. Especially since I'm not really using it.

Anyone else thinking such things - with any level of a FFL (sales, manufacture, or collecting)?

Q

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Ryanxia
April 2, 2013, 03:57 PM
The Brady campaign and others would like nothing more than to realize they've reached the point of so many laws that some people start saying it's not worth it..

I vote hang on to it. :)

Gunnerboy
April 2, 2013, 04:01 PM
If your gonna quit on us than go ahead and move to france while your at it. :neener:

leadchucker
April 2, 2013, 04:05 PM
...one miss-dotted I or uncrossed T... Really??? You just admitted that you haven't even used it yet. Unless you actually buy a C&R firearm with it, there are NO record-keeping requirements at all. Turning it in would be more hassle and potential trouble than just letting it expire in three years.

Paranoia.

bikerdoc
April 2, 2013, 04:06 PM
Hold on to it Pastor, they got bigger fish to fry. :)

RustHunter87
April 2, 2013, 04:18 PM
I'd start using it now, be for they try and close that "loophole":banghead:

Akita1
April 2, 2013, 04:56 PM
The Brady campaign and others would like nothing more than to realize they've reached the point of so many laws that some people start saying it's not worth it..

I vote hang on to it. :)
Echo that

r1derbike
April 2, 2013, 05:08 PM
If your gonna quit on us than go ahead and move to france while your at it. :neener:Whoa. That one stung a bit.

KEEP IT!

Sam1911
April 2, 2013, 05:27 PM
If your gonna quit on us than go ahead and move to france while your at it. Now, that is a horrible thing to say! And true.

Quoheleth
April 2, 2013, 06:37 PM
Sirs:

After calming down from the France snark, let me just say I am not quitting any fight. I am, however, trying to downsize my profile a bit. Thus, the question.

Thanks for [most of] the comments and encouragement.

Q

Texan Scott
April 2, 2013, 07:11 PM
If you're moving to an EU country, move to England. The gun laws are a bit more restrictive than France's, but with a firearms card, they would actually allow most of your C&R rifles.

Also, they speak a language very similar to ours. Most Americans are able to pick up English in a matter of mere months.

Or, you could just use your C&R here... it's no more paperwork and government hassle than you'd get anywhere else. It may not FEEL like it sometimes, but the U.S. is still one of the freest countries on earth.

Stay... and help us keep it that way!

mrvco
April 2, 2013, 07:11 PM
Somehow I don't think that people with C&R licenses are going to be the first ones herded into the UN re-education camps :scrutiny:

clutch
April 2, 2013, 07:27 PM
I was late renewing my C&R a while back so I had to apply for a new one. All those guns I bought on the old license are in a bound book I don't have to keep. :neener:

I haven't bought anything on the new license. But I have one just in case a real deal comes along. I'm sure I do better than break even considering the Brownells discount.

itchy1
April 2, 2013, 07:44 PM
I don't have a C&R because it would literally cause me to go broke. That doesn't appear to be an issue for you since you haven't even really used it yet. I say keep it and maybe you will find that it comes in handy eventually.

OcelotZ3
April 2, 2013, 09:26 PM
Keep it at least for the discounts on parts/accessories as well as the unexpected opportunities at gun shows, etc.

I think I used mine 11 times in 3 years for firearms. Saved me nearly $400 in transfer fees.

wally
April 2, 2013, 09:54 PM
Even if I didn't buy guns with mine it'd still be more than worth it for the discounts it gets me at Midway and Brownells!

Agsalaska
April 2, 2013, 10:50 PM
The UN decision? Really? I thought most of us were past that consipiracy and had moved on to another.if you gave it up I wouldn't blame you a bit. But don't let the UN decision, whatever that means, influence your decision.

lilguy
April 2, 2013, 11:04 PM
I'm keeping mine. Fum!

jdex
April 2, 2013, 11:58 PM
Discounts? How do you get those?

newfalguy101
April 3, 2013, 12:07 AM
Discounts? How do you get those?
apply for an FFL account and send em a certified copy.

newfalguy101
April 3, 2013, 12:08 AM
It will expire in a couple more years anyway, why get in a hurry??

As to the question, everytime my 01 comes up for renewal, I consider letting it go............I just mailed out the latest renewal along with a check this evening as a matter of fact

Trent
April 3, 2013, 11:26 AM
Discounts??? Oh my. I didn't know about that. :)

fallout mike
April 3, 2013, 12:09 PM
I've never used my C&R. I've bought numerous c&r guns since I've had it but always from local shops cheaper than anywhere online.

fallout mike
April 3, 2013, 12:12 PM
Im still not turning it in.

MachIVshooter
April 3, 2013, 01:06 PM
I am, however, trying to downsize my profile a bit.

Oh, yes....If you don't make any waves, maybe they'll just overlook you while they pursue those of us who speak up for our rights :scrutiny:

Now is NOT the time to be quiet. I've held a C&R for years, am on the NFA list, and I've never made my profile higher than now. I am very vocal about my dislike/distrust of the current administration and my state government, and about the fact that I absolutely will not register (other than NFA) or surrender anything.

Hokkmike
April 3, 2013, 02:12 PM
Have renewed mine twice without using it.

I may someday.

leadcounsel
April 3, 2013, 02:26 PM
I've had my C&R since about 2006. Just 7 years ago. That was back when you could get:
*Yugo SKS in excellent condition for $150
*Swiss K31 for $150
*Yugo Mauser for $150
*Swede Mauser for $200
*Russian Mosins for $70
*Ammo for same, 5-10 cents per round.
*etc, etc, etc.

The combonation of the decreasing dollar value, drying up surplus, and gun control fights has all but eliminated affordable surplus rifles and ammo.

Now, C&Rs are getting closer in price to modern used firearms.

I haven't bought a C&R gun in at least a year. Good deals are more scarce.

I used to also get a good discount from Midway and other places, but I don't buy much any more to take advantage of it, and the discounts are as good as they once were.

I've never been contacted by the ATF, but there is a hassle and small cost to having a C&R, and there is the *possibility* of the hassle of an inspection. And let's be real, that would be a real hassle. Although I've rarely heard of anyone being inspected.

So I'm also considering letting mine expire.

I'm on plenty of lists already (C&R, gun purchases, carry permits, military, etc.). So it isn't as much about that as just about the hassle, which I don't need.

Boomerang
April 3, 2013, 03:52 PM
I have a C&R and I write my representatives on postcards. I am not concerned about what others think. I'm pretty sure Ed Markey knows I won't vote for him.

OcelotZ3
April 3, 2013, 06:29 PM
The combonation of the decreasing dollar value, drying up surplus, and gun control fights has all but eliminated affordable surplus rifles and ammo.


C&R doesn't just mean military surplus... In fact, I believe that ALL of my C&R purchases are not military firearms. Just anything >=50 years. So I've picked up some old rifles, handguns, etc. with it. Saves me the $10 background check fee if I find something at the gun show (no "loophole" here in Oregon), or $35 if I mail order something (no going through my local GS for a transfer).

Trent
April 5, 2013, 10:30 AM
"Staying off the radar" ...

Makes it sound like you are ashamed to be an American exercising the rights you were born with.

Just sayin.

soloban
April 5, 2013, 10:43 AM
Email a scan of your FFL 03 to Midway customer service along with your account # and they will switch your account to a dealer account. Fair warning...you have to order at least $40 from them with a dealer account or they will charge a fee. Though I never seem to have a problem spending $40 @ Midway....

returningfire
April 5, 2013, 02:23 PM
Keep it, you may not ever be able to get another one.

solman
April 6, 2013, 09:28 AM
^^^
Don't give up what you already have.

Domina
April 6, 2013, 10:22 AM
After calming down from the France snark, let me just say I am not quitting any fight. I am, however, trying to downsize my profile a bit. Thus, the question.

I can sympathize with this but the time is certainly upon us where we must decide whether to refrain from presently lawful and legitimate activity simply out of fear of future oppression and hopes of an enhanced ability to lurk around unharmed in such a society if it comes to pass, or to stand up and refuse to be intimidated over things that are lawful, legitimate, and try to hold on to our rights and dignity.

My opinion is that I don't want to live a life cowering, so I will not act ashamed about my rights. It's a personal choice for each individual.

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