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mach1.3
April 2, 2013, 04:24 PM
S&W MP10 is a new offering in .308W in an AR10 platform. Anyone have one or experience with same. Seems to be a good value as AR10s go.

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InkEd
April 2, 2013, 05:40 PM
I would imagine it is a pretty decent commercial spec AR-10 much like their M&P-15 is a pretty decent commercial spec AR-15.

dvdcrr
April 2, 2013, 10:17 PM
The fact that its 7075 upper/lower is a good sign to me.

wally
April 2, 2013, 10:21 PM
What magazines does it take?

Non-starter if its something proprietary, big negative for me if its the Armalite (modified M14) pattern.

plouffedaddy
April 2, 2013, 10:24 PM
PMags

dvdcrr
April 2, 2013, 10:24 PM
Pmags but my question is there is only one type of 308 pmag right?

gotigers
April 3, 2013, 09:29 AM
InkEd

I would imagine it is a pretty decent commercial spec AR-10 much like their M&P-15 is a pretty decent commercial spec AR-15.


I will admint S&W ARs are not milspec, but they are more milspec than "commercial" ARs. The S&Ws i've owned or shot have most milspec features, except S&W uses melonite instead of chrome lining and a semi-auto BCG. Otherwise mine have more milspec than commercial ARs. My First S&W has a chrome bore. All S&Ws i've seen have milspec buffer tubes. I know there is more to milspec than buffer tubes.

I would think the S&W MP10 is a good buy.

Are they chambered in 308 or 7.62 nato?

ssyoumans
April 3, 2013, 11:00 AM
I've got a M&P AR15 and really like it. This looks like a nice rifle, think they have a winner with the 18" 5R barrel and the M4 style stock.

They will probably follow up with a 20", 22" or 24" using a rifle stock if I were betting on it.

Glad to see another entrant in to the AR10 field, especially since they went with a design compatible with the PMAGs (since I already have a DPMS LR308) which uses them too.

dvdcrr
April 3, 2013, 02:03 PM
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_817047_-1_785153_757785_757784_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

VA27
April 3, 2013, 10:15 PM
I'd buy one sight unseen. The problem is seeing one. My dealer got a good chuckle when I asked about one today.

jim243
April 3, 2013, 11:44 PM
Seems a bit pricy at $1,700.00.

Jim

Mat, not doormat
April 4, 2013, 01:18 AM
I'd buy one sight unseen. The problem is seeing one. My dealer got a good chuckle when I asked about one today.
I saw one just the other day. That might be explained by the markup, as the LGS that had it wanted $1990 for it.

mljdeckard
April 4, 2013, 01:27 AM
For that price, it better be fantastic.

gotigers
April 4, 2013, 09:25 AM
yeah a bit high. Especially the DPMS isn't a bad 308 around the $1000-1200 range. I doubt the S&W is $500 better. Lets see the street price.

dvdcrr
April 4, 2013, 10:52 AM
msrp is street price right now give or take 100 with the california versions being worth more. Get your stuff the next panic will be worse than this one and might be the last one.

dvdcrr
April 4, 2013, 11:31 PM
Got one in today. It is very nice. With the long flash hider it seems almost like a 20". It seems very straight and solid. The weight with scope is not excessive though not light. Balance is near perfect. The castle nut is staked. This seems like a nice ar-10. If I can get it to consistently shoot 3.5" five shot cold barrel groups at 200 meters I will be very happy.:D

gunnutery
April 5, 2013, 12:59 AM
I'm not a S&W guy, but I do want one of these. I think the pmag offering is one of the main reasons, but also that I would trust the quality. It might have potential aftermarket stuff for a major manufacturer AR10. The price is going to make me hold off for a long time though.

sleepyone
April 5, 2013, 10:59 AM
I've owned several M&P15s. S&W makes high quality ARs, and I'm sure this one is no different. I just sold my last AR and all gear since I was not a huge 5.56 fan, but this rifle really has my attention. There is an excellent review in this month's Guns and Ammo.

-v-
April 5, 2013, 11:33 PM
Looks like its good to go. Takes PMags, and the weight on it is very reasonable. Price right now is high because I think its a fairly rescent release. Once supply catches up, I would expect them to be selling around $1500, which is same range as an AR-10.

Also, I am of the mindset that I'll take a melonite barrel over a steel or a chrome lined barrel for this application. Melonite is newer then chrome so it doesn't have as long a track record, but it seems that it does bring to the table very near the durability of chrome with the same accuracy that stainless steel/white steel barrel can muster.

dvdcrr
April 6, 2013, 10:50 PM
I just put a cmmg 2 stage trigger in mine and it feels good and passes safety check. I haven't shot it yet though. I had to take out the ambi-bolt catch temporarily for installation so the trigger could drop in. That problem was unique to the cmmg , I don't think it would be needed for other units.

dvdcrr
April 7, 2013, 01:12 PM
http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg556/dvdcrr/1365350200712_zpsfaf59b5f.jpg

I took mine out to sight in. 100% function with federal 150 gr. Ammo. It shot great, It's accurate enough for deer hunting for sure. The federal load was right at 2 MOA for the first group , and there is definitely potential there to do better with other loads, and break-in. My optic setup is Leupold VX-1 2-7 in Warne tactical flat top AR rings. This is perfect for me with adequate eye relief and height. The rings are aluminum and light so the combo doesn't add much to the rifle.
Total weight unloaded no mag is 8.6 lbs. Balance is perfect. I also added the Magpul stock.

dvdcrr
April 7, 2013, 09:50 PM
18"MP10 next to 20" ar15 for comparison. They are very close to the same length. http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg556/dvdcrr/IMAG0246_zps349e8df4.jpg

dvdcrr
April 7, 2013, 10:03 PM
Added pic

InkEd
April 7, 2013, 10:40 PM
The 15's use an Enhanced AR BCG instead of a M4 BCG too. They are still good rifles for the money without a doubt. I just wanted the OP to be aware they are not Mil-Spec as the "Military & Police" moniker would imply.

-v-
April 7, 2013, 11:04 PM
Well, that and there only TDP for an "AR-10" that is truly mil-spec is the Knight's Armament M110. Plus, with the AR-10 type rifle being a home-brew for each manufacturer, I think we can throw any discussion of "mil spec" out the window completely. Sort of like saying that a "Remington mod 70 is closer to 'mil spec' for a bolt action rifle than a Savage"

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