Victory smith odd ball


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murdoc rose
April 2, 2013, 06:16 PM
Victory model smith v547xx in 38-200. No proof marks on the frame but has a 2" 3/8 barrel with British proofs on the underside. If i get a chance ill snag a pic of it.

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Jim Watson
April 2, 2013, 06:21 PM
Does it have the front latch lug under the barrel?

Old Fuff
April 2, 2013, 07:23 PM
If it's genuine (which I doubt) it should be stamped on the left side of the barrel, in two rows:

Smith & Wesson
38 S&W Ctg.

.38-200 Victory Models with snubby-length barrels are not uncommon, but they got that way after a longer barrel had an unfortunate encounter with a hacksaw.

Jim K
April 2, 2013, 08:27 PM
They usually got that way when the importers had them modified to make "detective" revolvers. Cogswell and Harrison did some of those in England (they were owned by Sam Cummings at the time), and other importers had the work done in the U.S. IIRC, C&H kept the front lug, but others didn't.

Many of the .38 S&W guns were also converted to .38 Special at the same time. If that work was done in England, the British proofs will show .38 Special as the caliber and the appropriate case length.

Jim

murdoc rose
April 3, 2013, 03:28 PM
http://s13.postimg.org/6jqxto3er/102_0917.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/6jqxto3er/)


I figured it was a cut down just odd for the proofs to be on the underside of the barrel.

rcmodel
April 3, 2013, 03:58 PM
The proofs might have been on the side before they took the barrel off to cut it off.

That might not even be the barrel it started out with.

Is there a matching serial number on the bottom of the barrel flat under the ejector rod?

There should be a flat, and a serial number there.

And I don't see a flat in the picture.

rc

murdoc rose
April 3, 2013, 04:11 PM
it is flat but not matching

Jim Watson
April 3, 2013, 06:57 PM
This and other sawn off Lend Lease surplus have very odd barrel shoulders, not what S&W does.

Have the barrels been cut from both ends and a separate shoulder pressed or screwed on?

murdoc rose
April 3, 2013, 10:42 PM
that might have peged it jim, i was wondering why the sholders looked like that

Jim K
April 4, 2013, 12:39 AM
The original barrels were tapered. When the people doing the conversions wanted to install a new front sight (that is not the original), they machined the barrel to a straight tube to make the job easier. That resulted in the odd shape shown in the OP's gun.

Jim

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