What to do with Dillion ball handle


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Eb1
April 2, 2013, 09:38 PM
I just received some more of my Dillion order. I received the aluminum handle to replace the ball handle.
I also received my .44 cal shell plate and some of the smaller stuff. I still need some larger things.

So what do I do with the old ball handle. I know! I am going to smooth the threads, and mount a leather strap to keep it from coming out of your hand.

That's right. I am making it a club to go in my wife's car, or to use for any purpose you would need a club. She can use to to break windows and protect herself if needed. It makes for an awesome club. You could use it when walking to keep vicious dogs away, attackers of two legged kind.
I think with the leather strap to help you grip it and keep it from coming out of your hand. It will make for a very bad day on anything that gets tagged with it.

I put this in the reloading topic area because technically I am speaking of a reloading tool. Just re-purposing it.

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dmazur
April 2, 2013, 09:48 PM
Many jurisdictions have laws prohibiting various clubs, nunchuks, etc. You might check before your repurposing...

On the other hand, a fairly large flashlight is, well, just a large flashlight. Someone might use it as a club, but since it isn't designed to be a weapon, most jurisdictions allow them.

I could be entirely misinformed, but I believe this is true. You can have a concealed pistol license and be toting a .44 Magnum and be legal. But if you have a leather sap in your pocket, you can be in trouble.

CLP
April 2, 2013, 09:58 PM
I'm in the exact same situation. Mine's been gathering dust in a box of other unused reloading and gunsmithing odds and ends. It's a shame to not have a use because it's a very well made piece of equipment.

Hartebreak
April 2, 2013, 10:02 PM
extra long handle for the super swage???

oldfortyfiveauto
April 2, 2013, 10:18 PM
Actually I prefer the ball handle and have retro-fitted my various single stage with ball handles.

Texan Scott
April 2, 2013, 10:19 PM
Could it be used as a gear shift knob in your truck?

Eb1
April 2, 2013, 10:27 PM
dmazur, I totally understand. I will do my duty and look up the laws. bleh...

But it is such a well made tool. And it makes one of the greatest clubs I have ever held. I just smiled at my wife when I grabbed it and she said, "D!@mn what a club." Ding! The light went on.

It is such a nice piece. I had a hard time making the switch. I hadn't loaded with the new handle, but it seems much more ergonomic. The ball worked fine though.

Eb1
April 2, 2013, 10:28 PM
Thinking a small breaker bar.

Eb1
April 2, 2013, 10:29 PM
Okay. Let's do this. Let's list the ideas of what the possible uses could be used for.

I say a replacement lever for the Challenger press.

We all know how that wooden handle doesn't like to stay on.

wally
April 2, 2013, 10:32 PM
If the ball end is the business end, 'tis a mace, not a club :)

dmazur
April 3, 2013, 12:23 AM
+1 for the breaker bar idea.

I've been thinking of getting a roller handle, and I wondered what to do with the old handle, if the new one was better.

I'm thinking of drilling out a universal joint and welding the handle to it. I imagine a clean fit would require cutting off the threaded end and making the weld at the shoulder.

Quite a bit of work, but it would be a unique breaker bar. And maybe my hand wouldn't slip off...

Eb1
April 3, 2013, 01:32 AM
You might be able to smooth out the threads to make the weld. Leaving you an inch or two for the breaker bar. I think that is what I will do with mine.
I would work great for the axles on my Harley, and also would be good for lug nuts on the S10 if for some reason I didn't have my 4 way. Which would never happen, but just sayin'.

Actually there are a lot of uses for a smaller breaker bar on the Harley. Good idea. I might go with that.

Another would be a trailer alignment for your hitch.

There has to be some way to use it on a fishing boat. Maybe a trolling motor extension.

Fire_Moose
April 3, 2013, 05:01 AM
Not sure what it looks like, But.....

Could you make it into a case trimmer handle?

Sent from my CZ85 Combat

FROGO207
April 3, 2013, 08:29 AM
Or offer it up for sale to others that might want it in the for sale section. I bet a lot of those with the other brands of press with the bicycle handle type would welcome a ball handle that could be rethreaded to fit their press.:) I have an old Spar-T turret that I would do it to if I had the handle on hand.

cajun executioner
April 3, 2013, 08:51 AM
How long have you been waiting on your Dillon order and what are you still waiting on? I was lucky enough to find a place that shipped me two 550's that they had in stock but I've been waiting since mid January for my die order from Dillon and last week they sent me an email saying that the dies were still in back order for at least several more weeks. Guess I will be using RCBS does until then. My Super Swager is supposed to arrive today.

Constrictor
April 3, 2013, 08:52 AM
I just received some more of my Dillion order. I received the aluminum handle to replace the ball handle.
I also received my .44 cal shell plate and some of the smaller stuff. I still need some larger things.

So what do I do with the old ball handle. I know! I am going to smooth the threads, and mount a leather strap to keep it from coming out of your hand.

That's right. I am making it a club to go in my wife's car, or to use for any purpose you would need a club. She can use to to break windows and protect herself if needed. It makes for an awesome club. You could use it when walking to keep vicious dogs away, attackers of two legged kind.
I think with the leather strap to help you grip it and keep it from coming out of your hand. It will make for a very bad day on anything that gets tagged with it.

I put this in the reloading topic area because technically I am speaking of a reloading tool. Just re-purposing it.
i use the ball handle to raise and lower the ram on the press. love it.

skimbell
April 3, 2013, 10:45 AM
http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4977584540090435&pid=1.7

John3921
April 3, 2013, 02:11 PM
I ponied up the $50 or so for a shovel handle for my PW shotgun press. I'm looking at the LNL ball handle thinking 'how hard could it be to just make a shovel handle endo for the thing?'

Eb1
April 3, 2013, 03:06 PM
skimbell, you read my mind about the boat.

constrictor, hardy-har-har. I did to until i go the handle that really helps my wrist not hurt.


i think this would be a great replacement for the Lee Challenger presses ball handle. And probably for the Lee Classic SS press as well.

One78Shovel
April 3, 2013, 03:53 PM
Whats wrong with my worn ball handle?

-178S

Eb1
April 3, 2013, 06:49 PM
I don't know. What's wrong with it.

higgite
April 3, 2013, 07:02 PM
If the law won't allow you to carry a club, what does it say about a very short walking stick? ;)

HighExpert
April 3, 2013, 10:22 PM
It would make a really great fisherman's priest. Should give those large catfish a real headache.

Eb1
June 26, 2013, 04:39 AM
I have since found a use for the ball handle.

Use it on the Dillon 550B press. I tried the roller handle, but it just doesn't work for me as good as the crank that came with the press. I will be selling my aluminum handle on ebay most likely.

I have the Dillon Strong Mount as well, and I might try the roller handle again when the press gets moved to its permanent home. Maybe the Strong Mount will help with the disbursement of force, but for now with the press directly on the table the stock ball handle works much better for me.
The last couple nights running .44 Magnum I have had issues with rhythm on the press. Today I changed over to the stock handle, and I ran 100 rounds without fail and without any stopping. The last few nights with the roller handle I have had several issues where nothing seemed to work right.
I know it sounds funny, but it may work better because my hand is more inline with the ram of the press with the stock handle, and with the roller handle my hand is way off center with the press bolted to the table and not the Dillon Strong Mount.

For now Constrictor is right. It works better for me in this configuration.

brickeyee
June 26, 2013, 01:52 PM
When RCBS started supplying ball handles I called them looking to buy one for my old 4x4 press.

They sent me a new shaft and ball for free.

FROGO207
June 27, 2013, 07:02 AM
Dillon being as good as they are at the design part of the operation would have provided the other style of handle as an option I would think if they thought it would benefit the end user to any great extent. Like anything else there is usually a lot of research into the design of a product by the time an end user gets his/her hands on something. Nobody likes being the experiment when it comes to convenience/production, especially with reloading it seems. That is why the Dillon press that works so well out of the box is so popular IMHO. No I do not own a Dillon press or work for them in any way.:p Personal experience with friends that own them and the many stellar reports on the net are all good indicators however.:) I almost think that they employ an army of reloading ninjas that sneak into random customers houses at night and adjust their Dillon presses as needed to keep them humming along trouble free.:D Personally I own a couple turret presses and 3 single stage ones as well. I am not in a hurry to make ammo anyway. It is the process and control of the end product that is the relaxing part to me. Also I tend to shoot up less when I realize what it takes time wise on a SS press to make 300-400 rounds of handgun ammo.:cool: YMMV

oldfortyfiveauto
June 27, 2013, 08:00 AM
I've put balls on the handles of all my RCBS presses. Much easier on my hands. Also wear leather palmed work gloves without the finger tips.

Constrictor
June 27, 2013, 08:04 AM
I have since found a use for the ball handle.

Use it on the Dillon 550B press. I tried the roller handle, but it just doesn't work for me as good as the crank that came with the press. I will be selling my aluminum handle on ebay most likely.

I have the Dillon Strong Mount as well, and I might try the roller handle again when the press gets moved to its permanent home. Maybe the Strong Mount will help with the disbursement of force, but for now with the press directly on the table the stock ball handle works much better for me.
The last couple nights running .44 Magnum I have had issues with rhythm on the press. Today I changed over to the stock handle, and I ran 100 rounds without fail and without any stopping. The last few nights with the roller handle I have had several issues where nothing seemed to work right.
I know it sounds funny, but it may work better because my hand is more inline with the ram of the press with the stock handle, and with the roller handle my hand is way off center with the press bolted to the table and not the Dillon Strong Mount.

For now Constrictor is right. It works better for me in this configuration.
I told you so!!!!

kelbro
June 27, 2013, 09:11 AM
There's a guy near me that converts billiard balls to press handle knobs. Works great. A little larger than the Dillon or RCBS ball. I like it better than my Dillon roller handle.

One thing that I found makes my roller handle more ergonomic is to not tighten it up all the way. It rotates when you cycle it keeping your wrist in its natural range of motion.

Eb1
June 27, 2013, 10:04 AM
To me whatever makes the machine work without fail is going to win. With the roller handle there were numerous primer flips, jerkiness, and just horrible rhythm. With the stock ball there was a smooth fluid motion, with zero primer flips, and less jerkiness.

I know I am not doing myself any favors for ebay bidders, but some people it might work better. It might work on the strong mount because of the disbursement of force to the table, but for now the stock handle stays.

You know. You would think I'd learned my lesson from all the motorcycle's I have customized my years, and the ones I ride daily that have lasted the longest are the ones that I have kept very, very close to stock.

220slow
June 27, 2013, 10:19 AM
Don't care for the roller on a 550 but love it on a 650. Keep a baseball bat in the car but don't for get the ball and glove. That way you are always ready to play!

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