Anyone have a method of making primers?


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mugsie
April 3, 2013, 09:26 AM
I have brass - no problem. I have bullets since I cast my own - no problem. I even have powder because my LGS still has a little on the shelves. I don't have enough primers, maybe 300 or so SPPs. That's only going to last me a few weeks. Anyone have a method of making a primer, a reliable ignition source? Before anyone tells me to use flint and steel, I'm not a BP shooter, but it may come to that soon enough. I can always make my own BP if I had to. Primers are a different story altogether. (Somehow I don't think the criminals are affected by the shortages, only us law abiding citizens).:banghead:

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Ryanxia
April 3, 2013, 09:41 AM
I'd be interested to hear some ideas on this too.

TurtlePhish
April 3, 2013, 10:15 AM
The method in Army TM 31-210 is to punch out used primers, flatten the cups, and put a small amount of strike-anywhere match tip stuff in it.

cwbys4evr
April 3, 2013, 10:41 AM
There is a video on YouTube that shows you exactly how to do it. It''s the method that TurtlePhish was referring to.

There are actually a few videos on it, but it seems like a large pain in the butt to me

oneounceload
April 3, 2013, 11:23 AM
Might be easier to place an on line order and wait a few weeks - supplies are starting to come into the online inventories - then buy in bulk

jmorris
April 3, 2013, 01:13 PM
This is the best thread on the subject I have come across.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?182089-can-you-make-priming-compound

Anmut
April 3, 2013, 01:23 PM
I would think that even if there was an easy way to do it, would you trust a non-factory primer? I sure wouldn't want a magazine full of ammo that may or may not detonate on it's own!

homatok
April 3, 2013, 01:30 PM
In a SHTF senario, desperate times call for desperate methods!

Anmut
April 3, 2013, 01:31 PM
In a SHTF senario, desperate times call for desperate methods!

True enough - but if that's the case flintlock or matchlock might be the better option! :)

GCBurner
April 3, 2013, 01:48 PM
I used to have a "Tap-A-Cap" device for punching blackpowder primers out of strips cut from aluminum cans, and using capgun caps as the inserts. It wasn't overly reliable with the paper caps as an ignition source, but it would fire most of the time. Paper caps are hard to find around here anymore, too, as capguns seem to be obsolescent compared to battery powered blasters with electronic sound effects.

leadchucker
April 3, 2013, 04:01 PM
Spent primers could easily be resized and reshaped for re-use, just like spent brass.

There are plenty of manuals out there that demonstrate how to make explosives that would be suitable for use as primer material. The tricky part is making the stuff up without blowing yourself up in the process, and not running afoul of the law.

BTW, match heads are very corrosive.

rdhood
April 3, 2013, 05:24 PM
Well, here is another similar question: does everyone keep their spent primers?

I dump mine in a bag (lee classic turret, has a tube that collects primers). I have thousands... if not tens of thousands. I mean to collect them till I'm about 70, and then count them and see how much stuff I shot over the years.

Or, repack them and use them when the world order breaks down.

chrisf8657
April 3, 2013, 05:30 PM
In the US Army survival book I have, it shows how to make a reusable primer using match heads...like TurtleFish said.

Hondo 60
April 3, 2013, 06:14 PM
but it seems like a large pain in the butt to me

Might be a pain, but if you're out ....

BBQJOE
April 3, 2013, 06:17 PM
Strange, I was just reading about this on castboolits yesterday.

Great, there go the paper caps!:rolleyes:

clutch
April 3, 2013, 06:25 PM
If I remember correctly, lead styphnate is what is in center fire primers. It would be really helpful if a chemist would post how to make this and what cautions there are.

It would seem that if we shot some berdan primed ammo, depriming and replacing the compound would be the easiest thing to do.

Clutch

thump_rrr
April 3, 2013, 07:04 PM
You said that you cast your own boolits.
I'm sure there is somebody out there that is sitting on a boatload of primers but has no bullets.
Go on as many forums as you can looking for somebody who wants to trade you bullets for primers.
You can also try your local Craigslist or whatever other local online forums.
If I wasn't in Canada I'd help you out myself.
I have 10,000 SPP and 5,000 SRP but I can't find any bulk 55gr FMJ for .223.
I'm down to my last thousand or so.

bdejong11129
April 3, 2013, 07:14 PM
I have a large box with about 50,000+ spent primers in it from emptying out the press over the past two years. Sounds like I may be sitting on a gold mine. I just need to get the box of them posted on GunBroker! Should be able to trade them for a gun or two.

TurtlePhish
April 3, 2013, 07:17 PM
If I remember correctly, lead styphnate is what is in center fire primers. It would be really helpful if a chemist would post how to make this and what cautions there are.

Here you go, right from MIT.

http://web.mit.edu/semenko/Public/Military%20Manuals/RogueSci-Mirror/explo/leadstyphnate.html

FROGO207
April 3, 2013, 10:14 PM
I wait until I get about a gallon jug full and take them to the recyclers. I usually do this a couple times a year or so. Never had the want to bother count how many actually in that there jug!:eek:

vtail
April 4, 2013, 12:08 AM
Has anyone looked at developing an electrically fired system that could be adapted to existing firearms?

TurtlePhish
April 4, 2013, 12:54 AM
Has anyone looked at developing an electrically fired system that could be adapted to existing firearms?

Remington tried something like that, it was pretty expensive and not very popular.

jmorris
April 4, 2013, 09:47 AM
The Remington rifles used a special primer, thumbs down because they were expensive and hard to find even when standard primers were everywhere, cheap.

The ones that were imported by Beeman worked on standard primers, only a hand full centerfire rifles were imported most were rimfire but not many of them either. They ran off of a 9v battery. I contacted the original manufacture a few years back in Germany IIRC and he said he tried to sell the idea to Walther and Remington with no success.

Again relying on my memory but I think there was a wright up about the Beeman .22 electronic ignition rifle in the Guns and Ammo annual back in 1984 or 1985.

Ken70
April 4, 2013, 04:55 PM
Don't shoot up your ammo, you'll need at least a couple of hundred rounds to slow down the herd that is coming to take your stuff. You won't stop them, even with thousands of rounds. Just slow them down; you're outnumbered...

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