Bloomberg 's AntiGun money are showing polls


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nathan
April 3, 2013, 11:16 AM
and media airtime that the majority of Americans wanted AWB and background checks enforced. They are also employing and paying pundits to spread their agenda. Be wary as you will hear more of these polls being shown on media, print, internet and television. They will keep saying it again and again to conditon the public.

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kwguy
April 3, 2013, 11:20 AM
That is the danger of Bloomberg. He is like a cancer. Very dangerous, and we do not have the equivilent power on our side. We have real 'grass roots', but we must continue to act as a whole.

Creature
April 3, 2013, 11:22 AM
we do not have the equivilent power on our side.

Say what?

kwguy
April 3, 2013, 11:30 AM
Say what?

I KNEW that wasn't coming out right LOL! What I meant was that Bloomberg is a rich individual with plenty of focused money that he can throw around. We (as far as I can tell) don't have a single individual that is so financially powerful. What we DO have is the power of our numbers, and we have the facts on our side, and not a small amount of money ourselves (just not 27 billion), but since we are many people instead of one individual, we have to coordinate our efforts.

nathan
April 3, 2013, 11:34 AM
They will be manipulating all sort s of media facts and factoids to saturate the airwaves. Its a media war for these people and they are good at it. Coupled with a president that is making it as his agenda , then we are fighting this fight for a long while.
Obama is going to CO and CT today to speak on gun control amidst the backdrop of massacre sites.

Creature
April 3, 2013, 11:37 AM
What I meant was that Bloomberg is a rich individual with plenty of focused money that he can throw around. We (as far as I can tell) don't have a single individual that is so financially powerful.

Concur.

In nerd terms, Bloomberg is a powerful sith...a Darth Vader. We need a powerful jedi...we need a Yoda.

nathan
April 3, 2013, 11:38 AM
The Gun Industry must pump more money to help the NRA and many progun causes defending the 2A. The anti
s are relentless in this fight to take our rights. Bloomberg and the media conglomerates are wel paid by his money to pump all sorts of facts and factoids while twisting the truth to their favor. This is a media war for these people and they are good at it.

Even Jim Carrey the comic actor was well paid to mock at the 2A and the reputation of Charles Heston. They'll do anything to mock, joke, cajole and play about the 2A.

kwguy
April 3, 2013, 11:50 AM
we need a Yoda.

LOL! We do, we DO need a Yoda!

nathan
April 3, 2013, 11:55 AM
This is the new phase in the fight to defend our 2A. The initial three months after Sandy Hook was just a starter. The second phase of attack is now in full motion. Bloomberg is employing pundits, media airtime, hollywood comedians and all sort s of gimmicks to sway and mock the 2 A . And politically, they are drawing sympathies by showing all the grieving families .

Certaindeaf
April 3, 2013, 12:01 PM
Leave his estate to the NRA, one of these days maybe a rich billionaire will. Only hope we can.

kwguy
April 3, 2013, 12:02 PM
Nathan post #9 is correct. It is going to be a continual grinding onslaught. It will never let up, but as long the political climate is such that they feel they have an upper hand, or are close to it, they will keep pressing. We must continue to do the same. 2014 is right around the corner. THAT is where the fight is. And on from there.

kwguy
April 3, 2013, 12:03 PM
Maybe Obi-Wan can help us. He may be our only hope...

Bill_Shelton
April 3, 2013, 12:07 PM
Anti-Gun Legislation is always passed in the wake of tragedy or perceived threat. The politicians like to pass anti-gun laws when the subject is still fresh on everyone's mind. However, if we can hold off long enough until people cool down and forget, then we can win.

Certaindeaf
April 3, 2013, 12:11 PM
Maybe Obi-Wan can help us. He may be our only hope...
I gather that Obi-Bama will be in CO today to tell the flock how good they got it now.

nathan
April 3, 2013, 12:11 PM
The Bloomberg -Obama -MSM -are doing a multi prong attacks on the 2A. They know they will find their sweet spot and go from there. If we dont keep up the fight, then they will succeed. They are also good at reversing psychology .

Certaindeaf
April 3, 2013, 12:12 PM
Hmm, you don't do that.

Carl N. Brown
April 3, 2013, 12:21 PM
And politically, they are drawing sympathies by showing all the grieving families .
They are not showing the greiving families who don't agree with the gun control agenda, are they? And our side won't exploit the families who think gun control is not the answer, in the manner that the other side exploits the families who feel that something-anything must be done.

What we are facing is a well-financed Moral Panick campaign. Anyone remember Satanic Ritual Abuse? Or the fear of Millenial Cults uprising during Y2K? Or Comic Books seducing the innocents in the 1950s?

kwguy
April 3, 2013, 12:27 PM
What we are facing is a well-financed Moral Panick campaign.

Well put.

JRH6856
April 3, 2013, 01:39 PM
Bloomberg is a powerful sith...a Darth Vader.

Darth BLOOMER

Queen_of_Thunder
April 3, 2013, 01:59 PM
A $10 donation from every gun owner will generate more money than old Bloomy can deal with.

foghornl
April 3, 2013, 03:06 PM
Those "MAIG" ads are running here in Ohio, saying contact Senator Rob Portman that you do support universal background checks. Probably Bloom (ing Idiot) berg supposes that has Sen. Sherrod Brown in his camp.

My call to Senator Portman's office said that the universal background checks are unreliable, unenforceable and have less than zero merit. The Criminal Element will NOT go through with the UBC. I also suggested that Senator Portman 'have a word or 2' with Bloom (ing Idiot) berg that he should keep his message and money out of Ohio, and the rest of the USA, since he has made such a mess of NYC. I also mentioned Bloom (ing Idiot) berg's failed "Sugary Drink" law.

P.S. I did NOT call the (koff koff) esteemed mayor Bloomberg Bloom(ing Idiot)berg to Sen. Portman's assistant.

ny32182
April 3, 2013, 03:35 PM
If Bloomberg goes the distance he is now better financed than the NRA. 27 billion/4.5 million (NRA members) means every single NRA member would have to put up $6000 to match Bloomberg's potential coffers.

I do think the NRA needs to change focus a bit and expend more energy on battleground states and races, same as the opposition.

Bartholomew Roberts
April 3, 2013, 04:17 PM
ny32182, you are comparing Bloomberg's total assets with the NRA's potential income. Depending on which source you trust for Bloomberg's valuation, you can knock $9 billion off his assets just in difference of opinion on valuation.

I don't know what Bloomberg's cash on hand is; but the NRA outspent him (and spent way more effectively) in 2012. Bloomberg's main asset is that he runs a media/information empire. That allows him to create the impression of omnipotence without actually having to pay for it; but it still doesn't make him omnipotent.

ny32182
April 3, 2013, 04:19 PM
I do realize that, and doubt he'd go the distance in terms of billions and billions out his own pocket, but he will also be getting outside donations to his "super PAC" I assume... how significant those are I guess is yet to be seen.

sota
April 3, 2013, 04:31 PM
A $10 donation from every gun owner will generate more money than old Bloomy can deal with.

yes but to who, and what organization? MSM won't play anything the NRA or anyone else comes up with that's Pro-2A. Honestly, $10 is nothing to me. $100 would still border on nothing. $1000 is even do-able. But there's no answer to the who/what/where that will actually do the most to counter Bloomy.

Bloomy has money, media, and moral outrage.
We have guns, ammo and the Constitution.

I hate to say it but the former defeats the latter in this day and age, especially when the latter can't get their message out into wide circulation. MSM shoves Bloomy's message down millions of throats every day. they'll never do the same for our cause.

I don't mean to sound defeatist, but it's a realist's view.

Certaindeaf
April 3, 2013, 04:35 PM
I think the media couldn't help but glom onto "the retarded mayor" in lieu of "the naked cowboy".. we need someone to volunteer to be "the retarded mayor".

nathan
April 3, 2013, 05:30 PM
SInce they employed the Hollywood activist Mr Moore, we will be hearing more of mockery from them the likes of Jim Carrey. Its a shame they are gathering all these libs , Brits like P Morgan and Canadian J Carrey, to taunt on the second amendment that defined the American Independence every which way they could. For their vision of America is to be like Australia who saw a successful gun ban in 1997.

gopguy
April 3, 2013, 06:44 PM
Call the number he provides, its on bloomberg's dime. 855-440-4800 Tell them no new gun control!

spanishjames
April 3, 2013, 07:47 PM
I just dialed the above number. They ask that you enter your zip code and then connect you to your senator. They ask that you tell your senator to support SB649 (universal background checks), and that you tell them to support an AWB and limits on magazine capacities.

The way I see it, this is a perfect way to get a direct line to my senator, after which I'll do just the opposite of what MAIG wants.

SharpsDressedMan
April 3, 2013, 08:07 PM
I may be wrong, but can Bloomberg be charged with sedition? It would seem he is trying to subvert the Constitution by manipulating the government to ignore the 2nd amendment with money. Wouldn't that be construed to be a seditious act?

Owen
April 3, 2013, 08:13 PM
A $10 donation from every gun owner will generate more money than old Bloomy can deal with.

No, it won't. If there are 80 million gun owners, a $10 dollar donation comes out to 800 million. Bloomberg has a personal fortune of $27Billion.

800,000,000
27,000,000,000

and he's 70 something years old. He could fund a trust with his wealth, that could easily outspend the pro-gun lobby without dipping into capital.

wingman
April 3, 2013, 08:21 PM
What has always puzzled me about people like Bloomberg is why the desire to tell others how to live, I honestly don't get it and it seems to be mostly in the liberal ranks.

If he really wanted to help people build some factories across the US and provide jobs.

kwguy
April 3, 2013, 08:26 PM
If he really wanted to help people build some factories across the US and provide jobs.

Because he doesn't really want to help. He craves power, and this is one of his means of getting it.

spanishjames
April 3, 2013, 08:38 PM
Why doesn't the NRA run ads to counter the mis-information and lies MAIG throws out there? I have never heard or seen an NRA message/ad on any TV or radio station. It could be because I live in IL, and IL leans far left so their money would be wasted here.

I constantly hear about how the NRA is a spokesperson for the Evil Profiteering Gun Makers. One simple ad from the NRA stating that the organization is made up of X-amount of actual members, could help to dispel that myth. An ad stating how many safety courses, or women's courses, etc. they offer is another ad they could run. I'm personally tired of seeing Wayne Lapierre on TV.

JRH6856
April 3, 2013, 09:24 PM
I may be wrong, but can Bloomberg be charged with sedition? It would seem he is trying to subvert the Constitution by manipulating the government to ignore the 2nd amendment with money. Wouldn't that be construed to be a seditious act?
Read two things

1. 1st Amendment.

2. Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United)

Cosmoline
April 3, 2013, 09:28 PM
Bloomberg still only has one vote. We have millions.

He also suffers from a very serious personality disorder. Rich guy syndrome. These guys invariably prove to be their own worst enemies. The ban on big gulps is a good example. The man is also deeply hated by the left, in spite of his left of center politics. He's considered a fascist, and in many ways he is. He turned the NYPD into a personal army and used it to beat protestors and create a 21st century Jim Crow system where anyone with dark skin is prone to being searched and brutalized by marauding officers. A lot of people--not merely gun owners--have good reasons to keep his power limited.

nathan
April 3, 2013, 09:51 PM
Of course they are warming her up , the former Sec Hilary Clinton on the front stage, just to remind democrat supporters that they can stick it to the NRA . As like saying to supporters and antigunners, We have Clinton to give us another four or eight more years of democratic rule . That we should make a change by passing new gun laws ( btw, Pres Clinton was instrumental in the 1994 AWB).

JRH6856
April 3, 2013, 09:58 PM
We have Clinton to give us another four or eight more years of democratic rule . That we should make a change by passing new gun laws

And another 4 or 8 years should be enough time to change the makeup of SCOTUS.

Texshooter
April 3, 2013, 10:04 PM
Just keep reminding everyone you can that bloomberg is a criminal who tried to get NYC agents to make straw purchases in other states & bought his way out of it.

Ask them if they want him to control the Bill of Rights like he controls things (i.e. Soda drinks) in NY.

Remind them of his hypocrisy as regards his armed body guards.

Remind friends, relatives, neighbors, and your elected Representatives. Do it daily.

Wars are fought every day until they are won.

InkEd
April 4, 2013, 12:18 AM
Bloomberg is a manipulating dishonest individual. He uses his wealth to deceive people and push his own personal agendas. He snubs his nose at the Constitution and anything else that gets in the way of his grab for power.

foghornl
April 4, 2013, 01:23 PM
One of Ohio's Senators, Rob Portman just released a statement on how opposed he is to new 9ahem0 gun control. The link below will take you to the Buckeye Firearms Association, where the statement is posted.

http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/8854

I am guessing the Bloom(ing Idiot)berg assumes that the Dem Senator, Sherrod Brown, is firmly in his pocket...ahhh corner.

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