17 hmr vs 17 wsm


April 3, 2013, 03:05 PM
I am looking at getting my first 17 rimfire and I can't decide if I should go ahead and get a 17 hmr or wait until summer and get a new 17 wsm.which would you get?It will be used for snakes,coons,turtles and target shooting.

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April 3, 2013, 04:18 PM
Wait to see what the street price on the new round will be first

April 3, 2013, 04:32 PM
The use of your gun should determine which you choose. For what you listed the HMR would be great. The HMR is good to 200 yds, but if you want to shoot up to 300 yds go with the WSM. If you do not mind the wait. Either should be very accurate. Good luck.

April 3, 2013, 06:15 PM
Here's how I look at it. I recently got .17 with the stainless bull barrel, thumbhole laminated stock and put a silver Nikon 3 x 9 x 40 Prostaff and picked up 3K of ammo with it. Now I'm waiting with bated breath for the big brother to hit the shelves. Kind of like having a .22 LR and a .22 Mag. Buy the .17 now AND the 17 mag later.

April 4, 2013, 07:01 AM
Or buy the .22lr, .22 magnum & the .17 HMR, like I did. Then hang out for the .17 WSM. :)

April 4, 2013, 08:28 AM
I'll wait to see the price of ammo. The specs on the new round are very good, but in normal times the 223 is hard to beat for those specs and price.

April 4, 2013, 08:52 AM
Well, since you asked what I would do, I'd get a centerfire rifle and reload for it. Probably .204 Ruger.

April 4, 2013, 09:02 AM
If you want a 17 and can reload, a 17 Hornet is an option.

April 4, 2013, 10:11 AM
I'll probably buy the 17 Winchester when it comes out, but for what YOU want to do, you don't need the extra power or noise the new 17 will have, so buy now and enjoy your new rifle.


April 4, 2013, 03:42 PM
I love using the .17 HMR for gopher shooting because of the lower report than a centerfire. When traipsing around on someone else's property, I try to limit my centerfire use to a few rounds just for the sake of consideration. Some hot gopher spots will end up swallowing up 50-100 rounds. I like the idea that as long as I am a little ways away, my presence will be relatively unobtrusive. If I am gonna be boomin', I would prefer to use my .204 Ruger.
That said, I am also excited about the idea of the .17 WSM. If I didn't already own a .204 and .17 HMR, I might wait and buy one rifle instead of two and put the money toward a really nice varmint scope.
Then again, maybe not.

April 4, 2013, 07:32 PM
I would lean towards the 17 HMR. The 17 Win Mag is only chambered into one or two rifles, so choices are very limited. The 17 HMR can be had in many different rifles. If more horse power is needed, then I would set up to the 17 Hornet. I have both and really enjoy them. I take my 17 HMR to Texas and it is a ton of fun on all the small varmints. I like to use my Hornet out here in CA, were I can have shots at rabbits, small bird, depradating crows, coyotes and bobcats. It is quite enough to use around my desert house, but powerful enough to drop the bigger varmints.

Johnny Lightning
April 4, 2013, 10:04 PM
I have a savage in 17hmr and think it is a great varmint round/rifle. It is good out to 200yrds but no further and is absolutely deadly on woodchucks! I live in an area that only allows rim fire rifles and shotguns for hunting so the .17 hmr is the best out there until the .17 wsm possibly takes over the market. Time will tell.

April 5, 2013, 01:27 PM
I wonder how close a 5.7x28 necked down to .17 would be to the new 17 Super magnum

April 5, 2013, 04:46 PM
5.7x28 would kick the snot out of the 17s. You are talking a centerfire with a bullet 2 to 3 times the size doing roughly the same speed.

April 5, 2013, 05:02 PM
It would be close. But you have made the mistake of mentioning 5.7 in a comparison thread. Certainly would be a neat wildcat, but since the new .17wsm operates at higher pressures than other rimfires it could certainly give the proposed 4.5x28 a run for its money.

The following is from Wikipedia, and the closest comparison I can get for bullet weights.

"The SS90 was an early prototype round used only in the earliest examples of the P90. It used a lightweight 1.5-g (23 grain) full metal jacket bullet with a polymer core, which it propelled at a muzzle velocity of roughly 850 m/s (2,800 ft/s)"

Compared to the new .17wsm with at 25gr bullet at (winchester claimed) 2600fps

April 5, 2013, 05:05 PM
I do no think that is a fair comparison being the barrel length differences

April 5, 2013, 05:11 PM
As I said the closest I could get. I have not seen any studies to where the 5.7 stops gaining or I would post them, but it is worth noting that those numbers were from a p90 with a barrel twice the length of the one in the 5.7 pistol. Still it would be a fun wildcat to play with, and see what it would do.

April 5, 2013, 05:36 PM
Sorry I did not see the disclaimer LOL. I agree the 5.7x28 would be fun to play with. There is a guy over on Specialty Handgun forum that has a TC Encore pistol with a 14in 5.7x28.

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