Would you buy this 39A?


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Plinker82
April 4, 2013, 12:12 AM
So I thought I finally found a great deal on a 39A. The rifle is rough in the sense it has minor pitting all over, the barrel is all patina but functions 100% and is complete minus the butt plate. I work at a shop that buys, sells and trades and this was part of a collection that was recently handed down to a customer. Since we purchased several rifles at once, this was picked up at a bulk buy and priced low enough to tag it at $250. Since I enjoy "refurbishing" old rifles, I thought this one would be a great next project though due to the nature of these things, I was only planning on cleaning it up versus refinishing the metal and wood as I'd normally do.

Today I was cleaning it up a little when I noticed a ring inside the barrel about 4 inches from the crown. Then I felt the bulge and my heart sank. I plan on seeing how it groups Friday with some CCI mini mags but even if it shoots straight, I don't know that its worth the $250 bargain that I had originally thought.

What do you guys think? This is a "K" serialized rifle with 24" barrel and not a mountie. I don't know a ton about 39A's... only that I haven't seen one in quite a while and they always bring more than most lever action 22's.

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Furncliff
April 4, 2013, 12:34 AM
A Marlin 39 with a bulged barrel isn't worth $250 to me. I bought a rusty 39 a few years back, also about $250. It looks good now and runs well, but I must have $600 in the thing (re-blue and smith work done by a pro). In this case I just wanted to put the gun right. I would not do it again.

The 39 has a threaded barrel, if you could find one you can expect to spend some time getting it set up correctly. I did a quick google search and couldn't find one.

Plinker82
April 4, 2013, 12:46 AM
My thinking is for $250 I could possibly clean it up and throw it in a friends hot bluing tank for next to nothing. Then strip and refinish the stock myself as well. If the value has already been trashed with the bulged barrel then I can't make it any worse by restoring its luster.

Gordon
April 4, 2013, 12:48 AM
You could turn it into a Mountie length easy enough.

Hokkmike
April 4, 2013, 12:59 AM
I'm thinking Plinker82 that you know more about this than most of us do. Certainly you know more than me. From my view I wouldn't buy it.

Bushpilot
April 4, 2013, 03:55 AM
I wouldn't buy it, not for $250, too many issues. $150 maybe. I've seen too many that didn't need a thing go for around $450 to make it worth the trouble.

303tom
April 4, 2013, 11:24 AM
I was just wondering how it would get a bulge it the barrel ?................

Plinker82
April 4, 2013, 01:35 PM
No telling exactly how it happened for sure since it could have happened 50 years ago. I would guess though that a bullet stuck in the barrel without the shooter knowing and fired another round behind it.

Elkins45
April 4, 2013, 02:18 PM
You might want to shoot it first, if you can. One of my uncles had a High Standard HD Military with a noticable ring in the barrel and it was a great shooter.

Sometimes problems turn out not to be problems.

jdh
April 4, 2013, 07:02 PM
Sleeve it?

ECVMatt
April 4, 2013, 07:38 PM
I would try and buy it for 150 and use it to build this:

http://www.grizzlycustom.com/custom_lever_action_rifle_backpacker_lite_scout.html

Plinker82
April 4, 2013, 11:13 PM
Tomorrow I am going take it to the test range to see how it groups. Being that it's only a .22, I don't know that there would be any safety concerns. I know one thing though. They will have to mark it down to cost before I will consider buying it. Had the guy properly inspected this rifle, we wouldn't have ever purchased it in the first place.

goon
April 5, 2013, 01:38 AM
I'd offer $150, do the restoration, and cut the barrel to carbine length while you're at it.

Gordon
April 5, 2013, 01:49 AM
That scout gun is the schizzle, thanks for sharing.Certainly what I would do to it!

303tom
April 5, 2013, 02:01 AM
No telling exactly how it happened for sure since it could have happened 50 years ago. I would guess though that a bullet stuck in the barrel without the shooter knowing and fired another round behind it.
I don`t see that happening with a .22.................

Plinker82
April 5, 2013, 08:32 AM
not all that uncommon on 22's due to lousy ammo

303tom
April 5, 2013, 10:52 AM
not all that uncommon on 22's due to lousy ammo
I am not talking about the bullet in the barrel, I am talking about the pressure from a .22 rimfire bulging that barrel...............

Jim Watson
April 5, 2013, 12:16 PM
Pressure from a .22 LR = 20,000 psi. It's little but it's loud.

Anecdote 1. I once saw a K22 - actually a 4" Combat Masterpiece - on the back shelf at the then largest local gun store. It was JUST what I wanted so I asked about it. The dealer said that it had come in on trade and when he cleaned it for display, he felt a bulge in the barrel. It was set back to go to S&W for a new barrel. I asked him to call when it returned, he did, and I bought it. Well, my Dad did, this was a LONG time ago. Still one of my favorite guns. The barrel replacement is obvious, the gun is a 1950s dull blue and the new barrel is a 1960s bright blue. But it shoots and it is MINE.

Anecdote 2. I bought a Remington 788 .223 at a gun show. I gave no thought to the fact that it was dirty, after all, who makes corrosive .223, right? To make a long story short, the barrel was bulged about 1.5" from the muzzle and accuracy was gone. Cutting off 3" did not help much. Remington kindly rebarrelled it, even though a discontinued model, and it is a good shooter. But it is no longer a bargain.

Recommendation. If you have a 24" barrel with ring 4" back, you will have to cut it to maybe 18" to be sure of a straight bore. Then you have to cut the magazine tube and reset the ring. Better get it cheap.

Scooter22
April 5, 2013, 07:46 PM
Bulged barrels on old .22s are very common. Especialy on semi autos. You get a squib load during rapid fire and a stuck bullet. The next shot and you got a ring/bulge. Theres plenty of pressure to cause this. The good thing, many times it doesn't make a difference in the accuracy unless you have a target rifle. I have 4 semis with a bulge or ring and they shoot fine. 2 of the guns I have a identicle model to compare it to. No difference. I'd try if to see how it shoots. But I wouldn,t pay more than 150.00 for it. A high power rifle as mentioned above is a different story. A stuck bullete can exspand and burst the barrel.

Vern Humphrey
April 5, 2013, 07:55 PM
Ask the gun. Shoot it and see how it groups. If you get good accuracy, refinish the gun and be happy with it.

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