357 pet loads using red dot, blue dot or PB


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Jamesbondage
April 6, 2013, 06:45 PM
Hello, fine folks of THR. I've been lurking around the forum for a while and wanted to say thanks for all the knowledge I've picked up from all the collective experience around here.

Now, my question: I'm gearing up to start reloading 357 mag to make ready for my newest acquisition (a Dan Wesson 15-2). I have the following to work with: IMR PB, Alliant Blue dot and Alliant Red dot, Small pistol magnum primers (Winchester and federal match) and 158 GN hard cast lead SWC and FPRN bullets. Does anyone have any favorite recipes using these components?

Thanks for any input

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SlamFire1
April 6, 2013, 07:00 PM
Someone can give you advice about Red Dot and the other powders, but my experience with Blue Dot and cast bullets was poor. Valiant told me they cast their bullets to 13.5 BHN which should be soft enough to obdurate and not lead. However Blue Dot leaded awful with these bullets, leading I did not experience with 2400 or AA#9.

Blue Dot will work well with jacketed hollowpoints.

I submit the following chronograph data as a guide incase you want to use your Blue Dot.


Smith & Wesson M27 6.5" Barrel

158 JHP (W/W) 13.5 grains 2400 R-P cases WSP
5-Aug-06 T = 102 F

Ave Vel = 1222
Std Dev = 26.45
ES 72.12
High 1262
Low 1190
N = 5



158 LRN Valiant 9.0 grains Blue Dot CCI500 Midway cases
5-Aug-06 T = 102 F

leading


Ave Vel = 1203
Std Dev = 29.22
ES 120.8
High 1261
Low 1141
N = 22

158 LRN Valiant 10.0 grains Blue Dot CCI500 Midway cases
5-Aug-06 T = 102 F

v. Accurate heavy leading


Ave Vel = 1290
Std Dev = 24.91
ES 88.15
High 1324
Low 1235
N = 20



158 LRN Valiant 12.0 grs AA#9 CCI500 Mixed cases
5-Aug-06 T = 104 F

Accurate little or no leading

Ave Vel = 1278
Std Dev = 34.98
ES 117.4
High 1344
Low 1226
N = 27


158 LRN Valiant 12.5 grs AA#9 CCI500 3-D cases
5-Aug-06 T = 104 F

Very Accurate no leading

Ave Vel = 1348
Std Dev = 34.16
ES 134.7
High 1386
Low 1251
N = 25

nix4me
April 6, 2013, 07:05 PM
Check the alliant website too, they have a few 357 Mag loads listed.

Jesse Heywood
April 6, 2013, 09:01 PM
Lee #2 shows Red Dot 5.0 1,115 fps to 5.5 1,215 fps, 34,000 psi. My favorite is smack dab in the middle. Moderate recoil, very good accuracy and smoky (usually due to bullet lube).

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