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I have a S&W 500 with the 6.5" Barrel. This was my revolver choice for Kodiak and the largest species of Brown Bear. Knowing what I know now I wouldn't have made the same choice. But I do like my revolver.
The Handi Rifle in 500 mag is very inexpensive. This is my dream rifle however http://bighornarmory.com/products/carbine.php but TOO expensive!
Anyways, what I want to do to the handi rifle is:
Cut 6" from standard 22" barrel to a legal 16" Barrel (overall length would be 32")
Have it crowned
Have it ported
trigger work (Only if it needs it, stock trigger may be fine, who knows)
cryo treat necessary parts, barrel and receiver for strength and longevity
a good durable finish
good sights, such as ghost ring sights, whatever may be available.
and something on the stock for recoil, limb saver or similar
The plan is to have a small, light and very handy rifle that shares ammo with my revolver for ****s and giggles. But will be more accurate than my revolver and will gain some velocity from the longer barrel.
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April 7, 2013, 03:09 PM
forgot to mention, my reasons for posting was for insight and suggestions. Does this seem like a solid plan? Anything wrong with it?
April 9, 2013, 03:19 PM
I think this sounds like an awesome combo. I have a 357 revolver and a 357 levergun and love the combo. Yours sounds like one hard hitting pair.
Curious, why would you not go with the 500 again?
April 10, 2013, 02:36 PM
The cryo treating is not going to yield any results. If you are willing to sink all that money into a Handi Rifle I would suggest looking at a T/C.
April 10, 2013, 02:59 PM
i like that lever action 500 carbine,but yikes on the price.
on the handi rifle,if you use a screw on brake,you can also use it with a silencer too
get it all the way you want it and send it to losokcustomarms.com for a melonite treatment.
April 10, 2013, 04:44 PM
After carrying my 500 in the woods and at the fishing holes, I would rather the 5" 460. That has plenty of power, probably has better penetration which is what you want on a brown bear. You have to hit vitals. And you have the option of shooting 3 different rounds. I do like the S&W x-frame though and am a big fan of smith revolvers in general. And I would even consider a .44 mag.
thanks for all the insight! Will look into those options that were suggested.
April 11, 2013, 09:18 PM
I like your ideas but agree that cyro treating is not necessary. I would opt for a screw-on brake rather than porting.
April 12, 2013, 02:27 AM
I have a handi rifle in 45/70.
That is the hardest kicking gun I have ever shot.
It combines the long push back with the sharp stabbing pain.
I would get the large grind to fit Limbsaver recoil pad, but not grind it. I would leave it full area.
April 12, 2013, 01:07 PM
your plans sound like they would make a sweet looking rifle and it would be pretty "handi" as well.:D however, i will give you my experience with this particular caliber handi rifle. first of all, i never sell my guns, when i get one, i keep it. But i made an exception for the 500 Handi Rifle. it is the only gun i have ever sold. mine had so much recoil that the breech would open up upon firing. it wouldn't do this everytime, but enough to be annoying. i looked for fixes and found several other people having the same issue. nothing against handi rifles, i love them, my wife hunts with one, and i keep one around in case i take a kid hunting. but they had some kinks to work out in the 500.
On another note, if you do decide to go ahead with it, the 500 handi comes with some pretty good sights. mine had tru-glo front and rear. even with shortening the barrel you could drill and tap and keep the front sight???
April 14, 2013, 09:51 PM
haha I all I seem to hear is that the recoil is pretty sharp.
I have a Rem 870 police magnum and a Marlin 45/70 guide gun and the recoil from those is enough. Not sure I really want any more than that.
I'm on the fence because it's single shot and may not be the fun I'm looking for. A pro to that is 500 ammo is expensive.
I should probably hold my horses and save up for that Big Horn Armory lever action. I'll always be lusting over that rifle.
April 15, 2013, 12:09 AM
I have that same Handi Rifle in 500 S&W. It kicks like a mule on crack!:eek: I now reload for it and that helps a lot keeping costs down, also if I want to tame down the killer loads I can. At about half the propellant the thing kicks like my 45-70 Handi Rifle with trapdoor loads for example. I did the Limbsasver trick like Clark mentioned about 3 years ago when I got it. That does help a lot FWIW.:cool: I can't imagine cutting the barrel down and porting it would be an advantage. The pressure is used up long before the bullet reaches the muzzle I believe. The trigger is kind of heavy in mine but otherwise it has a good take up and crisp break.
April 16, 2013, 11:48 AM
Kodiak08 -- just to tempt you a little more. A review of the Big Horn.