Taylor's .44 Mag 1892 Alaskan Rifle


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duelist1954
April 7, 2013, 06:47 AM
In this video I get to shoot Taylor's & Company's .44 Magnum 1892 Alaskan lever action, takedown rifle. I really enjoyed shooting this rifle. It is equipped with an excellent, barrel-mounted, aperture sight, made by Skinner Sights in Montana. I found the rifle to be quick handling with a smooth action. My full review will be in the November 2013 issue of "Rifle Firepower" magazine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiipYgrFjUE

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Reloadron
April 7, 2013, 07:19 AM
Heck with the rifle, I want that hat! :)

Seriously thanks for the video. That little rifle would compliment a .44 Mag or .45 LC revolver real nice. Short and handy.

Ron

lemaymiami
April 7, 2013, 08:35 AM
I've often thought that a large bore, short carbine would make a pretty good vehicle defender. That lever action is a bit slower than a semi auto but looks like it would be very effective... Do you have any info on cost?

OilyPablo
April 7, 2013, 08:37 AM
I have a 1892 Browning in 44 Mag and I still would want one! The take down and case would be nice. Super easy to clean as well, I bet. Sights look great.

One thing - at 4 minutes or so he says "gliding metal" I thinK he means gilding metal.

Reloadron
April 7, 2013, 08:55 AM
I have a 1892 Browning in 44 Mag and I still would want one! The take down and case would be nice. Super easy to clean as well, I bet. Sights look great.

One thing - at 4 minutes or so he says "gliding metal" I thing he means gilding metal.

Yeah, that was funny. I was going to comment to the effect of the bad guy getting a .44 Magnum vasectomy. :)

Ron

dprice3844444
April 7, 2013, 09:08 AM
west va assault rifle

duelist1954
April 7, 2013, 01:56 PM
I assume Taylor's pirated the idea from Wild West.

I enjoy checking out their stuff during the SHOT show, but I've never tested one.

Float Pilot
April 7, 2013, 03:29 PM
Here in south-central Alaska as I head off to my weekly range session, it is 22f and windy this morning... Spring for us...
Those hats are called Mad Bombers and they are fairly popular here for temps down to zero or maybe 10 below.... Once you get into the negative 20s and worse then you need a Martin Fur hat. They are light weight, your head does not sweat and they are good down to 65 below zero.

I have a slow download speed here and my computer crapped out half way through the video... So I have some questions...

1. Did they install a lawyer safety on the tang or cross-bolt ?
2. Did they use deep rifling that would be good for heavy cast lead bullets ?
3. Do they offer a regular wood stock ?
4. How many rounds does the mag hold ?

Back when I lived above the arctic circle in the mid 80s, I usually carried a M-92 clone in 357 mag during the winter trapping season. While the 44 mag would seem to make more sense at first,,,, it turns out that during deep winter there are NO Bears.
So you might have problems with wolves, maybe a wounded wolverine and of course lots of folks get stomped by moose... But a solid 357 mag slug & common sense will work for that and 20 rounds of 357 mag in your parka pocket does not take up much room.

However, a 44 magnum carbine that will shoot heavy SOLID cast bullets is useful year-round up here, particularly while flying in the bush where a full sized rifle would be taking up space in the plane that could be better used by paying customers. I can also see it being popular with canoe and rafting guides.

Lots of outside folks do not care for the big lever loops, but they do come in handy while wearing heavy mittens. ( not the spring mittens in the video) You can train yourself to use your thumb as your trigger finger when wearing big arctic mittens. (you always have gloves on underneath)

Ratshooter
April 7, 2013, 03:57 PM
That was a good review on the rifle and an interesting video. I have marlins in 357 and 44 mag and could do all the hunting I will do for the rest of my life with either of the rifles.

Do you know what the rifling twist was on the gun you tested? IIRC the Legacy site says they are 1/20 on the standard models. The one thing I wish my marlin had was a faster twist barrel. The 1/38 is a little slow. Also do you have a real street price for the gun?

duelist1954
April 7, 2013, 03:59 PM
No nutty safeties, just half cock...like God intended.

I shot 200 grain cast bullets over 8 grains of Unique very accurately in this gun...Holds 7 rounds in the magazine...no plain wood model as far as I'm aware.

Ratshooter
April 7, 2013, 04:14 PM
Here is a link to the Legacy Sports version of the Taylor gun. They show round and octagonal barrels but no take down models. Sorta pricey though.

http://www.legacysports.com/m-92

This is the spec sheet showing the 44 mag to have a 1/20 twist. I wasn't sure if the test gun used the factory barrel or not. I am guessing it does.

The Rossi brand of model 92s all had a 1/30 twist per the GS that worked for them. I like the faster twist barrels.

Blackhawk30
April 8, 2013, 07:24 AM
I fondled one at The Nation's Gun Show,I liked it but I don't like the rubber coated stock.$1200 price was a put off too.

Reloadron
April 8, 2013, 08:06 AM
I fondled one at The Nation's Gun Show,I liked it but I don't like the rubber coated stock.$1200 price was a put off too.
Excuse me? I was good with the rifle right till, did you say a $1,200 price tag? While I have no problem with a $1,200 price tag on a gun it had better be one heck of a lot more gun than I saw in the video.

Ron

Sheepdog1968
April 8, 2013, 12:58 PM
I've been looking at take down lever actions for the past few years. Their price for the complete gun is the best I've seen. I expect they will do a brisk business.

CraigC
September 18, 2013, 12:13 PM
Just read the review in the newest American Rifleman, which had something decent to offer for a change. Any further info on these? It says a 1-20" twist, anyone know if they're setup for long, heavyweight cast bullets over 300gr? A 1-20" twist is perfect, if they'll feed 320-355gr LBT's it'll be well worth the asking price. Price having a Marlin setup in this manner and it'll look like a bargain to you too!

jim in Anchorage
September 18, 2013, 12:43 PM
Here in south-central Alaska as I head off to my weekly range session, it is 22f and windy this morning... Spring for us...
Those hats are called Mad Bombers and they are fairly popular here for temps down to zero or maybe 10 below.... Once you get into the negative 20s and worse then you need a Martin Fur hat. They are light weight, your head does not sweat and they are good down to 65 below zero.

I have a slow download speed here and my computer crapped out half way through the video... So I have some questions...

1. Did they install a lawyer safety on the tang or cross-bolt ?
2. Did they use deep rifling that would be good for heavy cast lead bullets ?
3. Do they offer a regular wood stock ?
4. How many rounds does the mag hold ?

Back when I lived above the arctic circle in the mid 80s, I usually carried a M-92 clone in 357 mag during the winter trapping season. While the 44 mag would seem to make more sense at first,,,, it turns out that during deep winter there are NO Bears.
So you might have problems with wolves, maybe a wounded wolverine and of course lots of folks get stomped by moose... But a solid 357 mag slug & common sense will work for that and 20 rounds of 357 mag in your parka pocket does not take up much room.

However, a 44 magnum carbine that will shoot heavy SOLID cast bullets is useful year-round up here, particularly while flying in the bush where a full sized rifle would be taking up space in the plane that could be better used by paying customers. I can also see it being popular with canoe and rafting guides.

Lots of outside folks do not care for the big lever loops, but they do come in handy while wearing heavy mittens. ( not the spring mittens in the video) You can train yourself to use your thumb as your trigger finger when wearing big arctic mittens. (you always have gloves on underneath)
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I honestly do not see that gun doing anything my Ithaca 37 12 cannot do.
The hat is fake, it has no paws hanging from it.

CraigC
September 18, 2013, 01:12 PM
I honestly do not see that gun doing anything my Ithaca 37 12 cannot do.
We're comparing rifles to shotguns now??? :confused:

jim in Anchorage
September 18, 2013, 01:53 PM
Valid since they invented slugs. Again, my Ithaca 37 12 will do any thing that[$1100] trick .44 will do.

CraigC
September 18, 2013, 02:03 PM
Ok, so your 12ga will sling a bullet with a sectional density of .250-.270 and is effective up to 150yds???

The difference is better bullets, higher sectional densities (greater penetration), greater accuracy, greater range and FAR less recoil. Greater capacity. The .44Mag is also an easily handloaded cartridge with common reloading equipment and easily obtainable components, suitable for any game on planet earth. From mousefart 200gr .44Spl loads to monster masher .44Mag loads. Plus ammo interchangeability with a revolver. Other than that, they are about the same. :rolleyes:

If you want to talk about shotguns, go to the shotgun forum. I didn't resurrect this several month old thread to get into a silly and off-topic rifle vs. shotgun debate.

jim in Anchorage
September 18, 2013, 02:49 PM
Ok, so your 12ga will sling a bullet with a sectional density of .250-.270 and is effective up to 150yds???

The difference is better bullets, higher sectional densities (greater penetration), greater accuracy, greater range and FAR less recoil. Greater capacity. The .44Mag is also an easily handloaded cartridge with common reloading equipment and easily obtainable components, suitable for any game on planet earth. From mousefart 200gr .44Spl loads to monster masher .44Mag loads. Plus ammo interchangeability with a revolver. Other than that, they are about the same.

If you want to talk about shotguns, go to the shotgun forum. I didn't resurrect this several month old thread to get into a silly and off-topic rifle vs. shotgun debate.
They are calling it the ALASKAN not the .44 plinker. Calling something the Alaskan implies it's suitable for NA's biggest meanest game under bad conditions. I didn't pick the name they did.

CraigC
September 18, 2013, 03:02 PM
Uh, and it is Jim.

So because you are from the biggest city in the state after which the rifle is named, that gives you license to derail the thread with rhetoric about shotguns??? That's a very interesting justification for taking off on this tangent. :rolleyes:

I could just as easily say that the rifle won't do anything my slingshot won't but that's not very relevant, is it? This is a major development, the first production .44 levergun with the proper twist for heavy bullets and you want to bring nonsense about shotguns into it. How's about we get back on topic and discuss the rifle at hand, not shotguns???

jim in Anchorage
September 18, 2013, 04:05 PM
Oh for Gods sake I interrupted a mass worship for a .44 lever gun sacred cow here. Just saying it's not a "Alaskan" gun.

goon
September 18, 2013, 09:52 PM
There is a review of this rifle in this month's issue of American Rifleman. Looks pretty cool to me, but the MSRP is in the $1200 range and looks a little steep to me. Isn't a WWG Copilot in that range?

DM~
September 19, 2013, 04:59 PM
There is a review of this rifle in this month's issue of American Rifleman. Looks pretty cool to me, but the MSRP is in the $1200 range and looks a little steep to me. Isn't a WWG Copilot in that range?

How about those 4 to 5" groups at 50 yards!!!

DM

CraigC
September 19, 2013, 05:14 PM
How about those 4 to 5" groups at 50 yards!!!
Read it again.

100yds.

The rifle should've done better but I'm not so sure the author was capable.

DM~
September 19, 2013, 05:16 PM
OK, i'll take your word on that, i don't have the mag. right here... Still nothing to brag about!

DM

CraigC
September 19, 2013, 05:20 PM
No but like I said, the rifle should do better. Quite a bit better. It was equipped with a large aperture rear sight and fiber optic front. Neither of which are conducive to fantastic precision. From reading the article, I don't think the author was quite as comfortable or familiar with the rifle as he should've been. I'm not real nuts about a large aperture rear sight mounted on the barrel anyway. There's no reason why that rifle shouldn't do 2" or better at 100yds with a proper receiver sight and something less than a ghost ring.

For the record, the rifle did record a best of 2.71"@100yds for five shots with 300gr XTP's.

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