Send me your expired ammo....


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slamfirev10
April 9, 2013, 01:06 PM
....for proper disposal of course :)

Federal says ammunition has a 10 year shelf life :eek:

http://federalpremium.com/company/faq.aspx



WHAT IS THE SHELF LIFE OF AMMO AND STORAGE?

Store reloading components and ammunition in a cool, dry place, protected from direct exposure to sunlight. If stored properly there is a 10-year shelf life on loaded ammunition.

pm me for my shipping address

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MErl
April 9, 2013, 01:09 PM
expiration listed so they don't have to deal with warranty issues on 25 year old ammunition I'm sure.

dprice3844444
April 9, 2013, 01:23 PM
ship shipping cod

InkEd
April 9, 2013, 01:43 PM
Nice try to there. I cannot let you get over on my fellow forum members though. They pay good money to ship it to you for disposal and get nothing in return. Your heart is in the right place but THR members deserve better.

Which is why not will I dispose of it for free, I will offer scrap metal pricing for all that old ammo. Plus, you can leave it fully intact (including powder and primers) and I will break it down it components at my own expense. Simply as courtesy to fellow THR members.

:D

sidheshooter
April 9, 2013, 05:15 PM
Shame on Federal. This is how rumors get started. Next thing you know, people everywhere will think that .38+P ammunition will blow up your high-quality old j or k frame, or something. :rolleyes:

I think I'm going to go shoot some wickedly hot 20+year old +P ammo through my 3" chief... again... :neener:

orionengnr
April 9, 2013, 05:19 PM
I have ammo older than you...older than me (and I'm 56).
I wish I had held up as well as the ammo...but then, I've seen a lot more abuse...and a lot more fun, too. :)

BigBore44
April 9, 2013, 05:24 PM
Oh no!! I have 10,000 rounds of Israeli 308 from the 80's. And almost 30,000 rounds of LC 5.56 from the 90's. What should I do!?!? I can't believe it's not safe to shoot. I'm so bummed now. Got any bridges you wanna trade for? Lol

Fishslayer
April 9, 2013, 05:42 PM
Send me your address. It'll cost $1/round to ship it though! :D

Grassman
April 9, 2013, 06:49 PM
I have some .308 ammo that is over 40 years old. And I will not hesitate to shoot it.

Trung Si
April 9, 2013, 06:52 PM
I still shoot Carbine Ammo from 1943 and 1944, I have yet to have a FTF.;)

MountainBear
April 9, 2013, 06:55 PM
Funny, my LC 42 marked .30-06 went BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG, SPROING! the last time I was at the range...

Delford
April 9, 2013, 07:11 PM
I went out in the 82 degree weather to put a few rounds of 7.52x54r through my 1929 Mosin-Nagant. I don't know when they dug up the 440 spam can of Bulgarian ammo but it certainly worked well for me today. Of the first five shots 3 were in the 10 or x and the other two were out in the 7 ring (my bad). The next five were similarly placed. I was amazed at the accuracy because I'm not that experienced with long guns. I shot standing using an oak tree for bracing. I didn't do quite as well with my Ruger P345 with modern day Federal Premium 45 acp. Practice Practice Practice!!

HighExpert
April 9, 2013, 07:18 PM
Federal may be on to something here. If ammo expires after 10 years and magazines can only be fired once..all we need to do is extend the current ammo shortage for 10 years and all weapons will cease to be any worry to anyone, right? We really have no need of any more laws concerning firearms because they will all be inert in 10 years.

Delford
April 9, 2013, 07:24 PM
Found out how to post a pic...can't quick reply :o I was aiming for the upper corner with the P345 and need to increase left hand pressure on the trigger pull. The smaller holes in the black were the Bulgarian 7.52, mfg date unknown.

ApacheCoTodd
April 9, 2013, 09:47 PM
Just Federal's CYA for performance within optimum design parameters.
They're just telling the chrono-nazis to not be bothering them with 11 year old ammo falling 100 FPS short on a bored weekend of excessive data collection.
I actually like them documenting that is good for a decade at least.

TRX
April 11, 2013, 02:00 PM
Primer compositions got ironed out pretty well by the mid-20th century. There were chlorate primers, which lasted essentially forever, were cheap, easy to manufacture, inexpensive, insensitive to temperature, and left corrosive residue. There were several types of non-corrosive primers, eventually settling down to lead styphnate and various additives. The styphnate primers were temperature-sensitive and harder to handle during manufacturing, but became the standard for everything other than some of the old Communist Bloc.

HOWEVER, since the "lead primers are poisonous!" fandango of the early 1990s, manufacturers have been trying various lead-free priming compounds. Some of this is driven by military and police contracts, which favor or specify lead-free primers. Many of these primers DO have a shelf life, and go erratic or simply go inert when they expire.

The primer sits between the powder charge and the firing pin. A certain amount of kinetic energy is available from the pin; this is a fixed parameter. The powder is designed to be ignited by a primer with a certain amount of power, or "brisance." You have some wiggle room with the powder, and you could probably make more or less easily ignited powder to match a nonstandard primer, but for most purposes, any new type of priming compound needs to be pretty much a drop-in for the existing compounds.

Whether Federal is using some new short-lived primers, or they're just playing "Product Liability CYA", I don't know. But I doubt they're scaremongering sales, since they can't keep up with the demand for primers right now.

Shadow 7D
April 11, 2013, 02:58 PM
Well, DAMN, you mean that 100 year old surplus I'm shooting is expired???
well, guess I'll just have to grin and bare shooting it, as I'm too cheap to buy new...
and strangely, I wait for milk to sour, not reach the sell by date before I throw it out too...

wetpowder
April 11, 2013, 03:08 PM
I see no expire date on my ammo;) good to the last BANG!!:D

FROGO207
April 11, 2013, 09:51 PM
Shadow 7D -----It expires with each trigger pull don't ya know.:D

I have some old WWI 30-06 linked ammo that is just fine (shot some last year) but sill it is a bit corrosive so I don't shoot it often. I just admire it from time to time with my friends.;)

ObsidianOne
April 11, 2013, 09:57 PM
Well darn, what do I do about all my 1970's made 7.62x54R?

r1derbike
April 12, 2013, 01:26 AM
My old ammo always goes bang as well. Heck, it may be better than mass-produced ammo from off-brand suppliers!

Oh, it was made by the same folks that serve our Military's needs. At least one of the company's who manufacture small arms ammo.

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