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snubs38+P
April 10, 2013, 11:59 AM
anyone out there participate in these kinds of matches?

if so, what is the ratio of wheel guns to semis?

just wondering if the wheel gun guys get schooled by the semi-auto crowd.

i am by no means a fast reloader, but i have no intention on using my sig 938 for competition.

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Sam1911
April 10, 2013, 12:20 PM
Sure! We hold them once or twice a year. If you check the rules for BUG matches, there's not much reason NOT to use a wheel-gun. No on-the-clock reloads. 5 shot strings, maximum.

Now, if you're competing in a regular match, using your normal compact-carry-gun (or actual back-up-gun), then that's a different story.

btg3
April 10, 2013, 01:07 PM
The playing field is even for revolver vs semi-auto in BUG matches because of no reloads, as noted above. It's great to see skilled shooters run a revolver in a standard match, but on the whole, autoloaders with 10rd mags rule the day.

Having shot a BUG match, once was enough. The low round counts and no reloads are just not as appealing as the standard match.

snubs38+P
April 10, 2013, 03:58 PM
thanks for the replies, fellas.

i guess i need to read up on those.

not having to reload is nice.

there are only a couple of BUG matches here in CO this year.

i'll be doing one of them for sure.

Jim Watson
April 10, 2013, 04:27 PM
A club here does an annual BUG shoot.
To liven things up, the definition BACK UP Gun is applied; that is it is backing up another weapon.
You will either start with your BUG and fight your way to a staged long gun or FSP (Full Size Pistol) or you will shoot your long gun/FSP empty and produce your BUG as a "New York Reload."
That gets the round count up without violating the rule against reloading the BUG and allows for varied scenarios. Challenge level is high.

I usually shoot my Colt Gov't .380, sometimes my Centennial .38. But I see a lot of "compacts" that just barely qualify as BUGs.

waktasz
April 10, 2013, 10:32 PM
A club here does an annual BUG shoot.
To liven things up, the definition BACK UP Gun is applied; that is it is backing up another weapon.
You will either start with your BUG and fight your way to a staged long gun or FSP (Full Size Pistol) or you will shoot your long gun/FSP empty and produce your BUG as a "New York Reload."
That gets the round count up without violating the rule against reloading the BUG and allows for varied scenarios. Challenge level is high.

I usually shoot my Colt Gov't .380, sometimes my Centennial .38. But I see a lot of "compacts" that just barely qualify as BUGs.
That is the only BUG match I've ever heard of that actually sounds interesting to me!

jmorris
April 11, 2013, 01:01 AM
We generally run them as two gun matches with the BUG at the beginning or end of the stages. Beats standing around all day to shoot 30 rounds.

btg3
April 11, 2013, 02:20 PM
That is the only BUG match I've ever heard of that actually sounds interesting to me!
Agreed. Also thinking there must be restrictions on "producing the BUG" gun to keep things safe.

Jim Watson
April 11, 2013, 02:33 PM
This not being a sanctioned IDPA event, they do require a holster. No pocket or fanny pack, just a straight draw holster like your main event gun's.
Places are provided to abandon the empty gun and get the staged gun, whether BUG, FSG, rifle, or shotgun. Similar to Multigun shooting. (Long guns are provided by the match. Lots of fun sorting out a strange action with the timer running.)

No BUG reload is required.

GCBurner
April 11, 2013, 06:48 PM
We had a BUG stage in this month's match. Five-shot string, drawing from an IDPA box, so no holster or reload required. Local Glock dealer was there with a loaner 9mm Glock 26 and a .45 Glock 30S for anyone who didn't have a BUG of their own. Several shooters brought their .38 snubby revolvers, too.

tarakian
April 12, 2013, 05:26 PM
The last BUG match I shot was basically the same as the regular morning match, but with no longer shots. Reloads were required.

westhope
April 18, 2013, 04:26 PM
I ran IDPA BUG matches for years in Minnesota. I ran them as an additional match in addition to our regular Summer league matches. Probably 1/2 of the regular match shooters also shot the BUG match. A few of the regular match shooters said the BUG match was the main reason they came to the match. At least one more club in Minnesota runs regular IDPA BUG matches.

I ran 3 short (5 round) stages. My philosophy was short, quick and represent a real situation, even more so than regular IDPA stage.

I'm thinking of modifying the IDPA BUG rules for my matches. I think 3.8 inch barrel for a semi-auto is too long. I would shorten it to 3.250 or so. I do not consider my M&P 9c a BUG gun. I would allow reloads on one of the 3 stages I usually run. I would still limit magazines to 5 rounds. I know that puts the J-frame revolvers at a disadvantage but most of the revolver shooters don't care about the disadvantage, they just want the practice reloading under the clock.

I allow pocket holsters. Just remove the holster from the pocket before re-holstering. I want to make the matches as close to what guys carry every day.

1SOW
April 20, 2013, 12:39 AM
Our local Fun Shoot matches occassionally includes a bug stage or two.
As said, number of rounds and distance are limited and holsters are not used.
If a reload is required it's set up as a another "string". ---Either 5 0r 6 shots per string.
These are run with IDPA "basic" rules and range commands.

tazcat2005
April 24, 2013, 08:56 PM
I ran IDPA BUG matches for years in Minnesota. I ran them as an additional match in addition to our regular Summer league matches. Probably 1/2 of the regular match shooters also shot the BUG match. A few of the regular match shooters said the BUG match was the main reason they came to the match. At least one more club in Minnesota runs regular IDPA BUG matches.

I ran 3 short (5 round) stages. My philosophy was short, quick and represent a real situation, even more so than regular IDPA stage.

I'm thinking of modifying the IDPA BUG rules for my matches. I think 3.8 inch barrel for a semi-auto is too long. I would shorten it to 3.250 or so. I do not consider my M&P 9c a BUG gun. I would allow reloads on one of the 3 stages I usually run. I would still limit magazines to 5 rounds. I know that puts the J-frame revolvers at a disadvantage but most of the revolver shooters don't care about the disadvantage, they just want the practice reloading under the clock.

I allow pocket holsters. Just remove the holster from the pocket before re-holstering. I want to make the matches as close to what guys carry every day.
That shorter barrel length would rule out my Sig P232 :(

Dr.Rob
April 25, 2013, 01:35 AM
BUG matches are useful I think, as so many people actually carry them.

Since it's always a 'side match' as long as the holster meets safety requirements I don't see why you can't do reloads etc.

A 5 shot string is pretty boring.

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