Who makes a good cheap projectile and where can I find some?
What is a good powder for this. Was thinking about Unique, but herd about trouble metering.
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April 10, 2013, 09:37 PM
X-treme plated bullets and Winchester 231. Great range load.
Follow the reload components thread on this forum for availability.
April 10, 2013, 11:07 PM
I would recommend W-231.
Meters pretty well and works very well in .45 ACP and quite a few other calibers. As far as projectiles go, Look uo the thread LennyJoe mentioned and call your LGS as well and keep looking online.
Every ones there with you right now.
April 10, 2013, 11:32 PM
I prefer plated bullets and the old, original powder; Bullseye.
April 11, 2013, 01:13 AM
Berry's plated bullets & Bullseye powder. Best bullet for .45ACP (all weights) I have ever used. Clean, very high tolerances, smooth, super easy going through loaders. Even better if you order directly and buy in bulk ($75) they will pick up the shipping! I just ordered 5K, and it took just over a month to process through back-order because they are so darn busy, but they sent several e-mails along the way to let me know how things were going. Be patient; they will eventually be delivered as promised.
April 11, 2013, 01:33 AM
I use almost nothing but W231/HP-38 for my 45 Auto ammo and most other handgun cartridges too.
I find 45 Auto ammo made with W231 to be extremely accurate.
My "Powder Trinity" is:
W231, W540 and W296. (HP-38, HS-6, H110)
April 11, 2013, 01:44 AM
45acp 230gr ball
Follow the reload components thread on this forum for availability.
Graf & Sons had some for sale but they are currently sold out - https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/257
Here are some alternatives. I have used PowerBond and X-Treme plated bullets and they have thicker copper plating.
I have used jacketed load data with good results - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=8843203#post8843203
230 gr RN X-Treme plated bullets - http://store.affordablebrassandbullets.com/rain45-230grrn-plated-bullets-in-stock
200 gr RN X-Treme plated bullets - http://store.affordablebrassandbullets.com/catalog/category/5019291/45200gr-rnfp-plate-bullets-in-stock
200 gr RN PowerBond plated bullets - http://www.powerbondbullets.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PBOS&Product_Code=45RN200&Category_Code=
Note: To order from PowerBond website, click on "Confirm" box, click on "Order These Bullets", click on "CHECK BASKET CONTENTS" at the top then "CHECK OUT"
April 11, 2013, 07:47 AM
I like Rainier Ballistics 200gr and 230gr RN. They recommend using lead data but I have good results using mid range jacketed data. I've used Bullseye, W231, Unique, Red Dot, 800X, and True Blue. I've been able to find good loads with all of those powders except 800x, I'll never buy it again, ever, end of discussion, period.
April 11, 2013, 10:02 AM
Affordable brass and bullets delivered my order of .40 cal 180 gr x-treme bullets in just over a week. Not bad given the current circumstances
April 11, 2013, 10:34 AM
Old staples with the 45 ACP are Bullseye and Unique. When I look at my chronograph data for thrown loads of Unique in the 45 ACP, and compare the ES and SD’s with thrown loads of AA#5, a ball powder, Unique is equal or better. I would not worry too much about metering.
The original 1910 prototype 45ACP round was loaded with Bullseye. Bullseye is an outstanding powder in the 45 ACP. I have shot ammunition cans worth of 230 FMJ’s with W231, it is an outstanding powder. Unique has a following but I only have 230 LRN loads with Unique. Shoots fine with LRN.
I try to keep my 230’s just at 800 fps as that was the velocity specified in 1910. I have chronographed factory ammunition, some are hotter, but I don’t want hot loads battering my pistols.
12-Dec-11 T =53 °F
OAL 1.250" taper crimped 0.469"
Ave Vel = 847.1
Std Dev = 19.59
ES = 86.17
High = 877.2
Low = 791.1
N = 14
Accurate but high.
April 11, 2013, 11:07 AM
Missouri Bullet Co. "softball" 230 grain LRN Brinell 18. $46/500. It might take 4 weeks to arrive, depends on where they are in their production cycle. I got some a few weeks back. Bullseye is my standard .45 ACP load, usually 4.7 grains for the LRN which results in an AV of 840 fps from a 5" 1911.
April 11, 2013, 12:31 PM
I use MB softball with 4.7 grains of 700-X for a great load. I was using the same load with the X-Treme plated bullets with equally good results in all my handguns, MAC 10, and my M1928 Thompson. I just sized them all to fit the tightest chamber (S&W 457).
April 11, 2013, 12:34 PM
Another vote for MBC "softball". I've gone through a couple K of them. I also really like Berry's 230 plated. Particularly for indoors if smoke is a concern (lead lube smokes a little).
Both are 100% reliable and accurate. I use Red Dot mostly.
April 11, 2013, 02:40 PM
+1 for MBC.
...but there are others, too. Search the forum.
April 11, 2013, 08:49 PM
800X, and True Blue. I've been able to find good loads with all of those powders except 800x, I'll never buy it again, ever, end of discussion, period.
And I like True Blue in every pistol caliber I load for.
April 11, 2013, 09:36 PM
45 ACP is the most forgiving caliber I load. I use either lead or plated 230 RN bullets and whatever powder I have on hand. 231, Red Dot, Green Dot, Herco, Unique, Bullseye, they all work well. Target loads are another story. Lead 200 SWC's and 231.
April 11, 2013, 10:47 PM
I like 230gr RN softball from Missouri Bullet Co, and XTreme Bullet 230gr RN. I load my lead bullets using WST, and my XTreme bullets are riding on top of W231, or WST.
April 12, 2013, 08:04 AM
Thanks for all the help. For the short term I ordered 200 federal bullets from http://thereloadingzone.com/shop/bullets/federal-45acp-230-grain-fmj/ with just $5 shipping. For the long term, I am looking at http://www.precisiondelta.com/detail.php?sku=B-45-230-FMJ. Has anyone used these before and are jacketed bullets better than plated?
April 12, 2013, 08:39 AM
+2 on Precision Delta for jacketed and I like Friendswood Bullets for l-rn. My powder is HP-38, Universal, Clays or Titegroup with 9mm and 45 ACP.
Berry's 230gr RN and Wiinchester 231 gets my nod. Wish I could find both during these hard times.
April 12, 2013, 10:13 PM
I've used about 8000 precision delta bullets and thet are great bullets. Treat as fmj bullets as they use a true jacket not plating.
April 13, 2013, 01:15 AM
I like precision delta because they are true FMJ. 5.3 grains of Bullseye gives me about 825 in my 1911A1 which is pretty close to the original factory ball load. Berrys are OK too but the last I heard they had a one year backlog and were not taking any new orders.In the present climate I would take what I can get:cuss:
April 13, 2013, 10:23 AM
I hope you folks have better luck finding .45ACP 230gr FMJ bullets than I have had ... thankfully, I still have enough to last me for a little while anyway.
I am like many others here. I usually buy my 230gr FMJ bullets from Precision Delta (when they were readily available).
I load these with 5.2gr of W-231 powder and set the OAL to 1.25" for easy cycling in my Colt Gold Cup.
After taper crimping with the Lee 'FCD' die, I get the final case mouth crimp width to .470"
Since this 230gr Precision Delta RN bullet is 0.65" in total length, this is what the cartridge looks like after loading with these bullets: