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CaptFlint61
April 11, 2013, 05:05 PM
Can anyone identify this particular style of Enfield?
Military hardware, 18" barrel with bayonet lug, Mark 4.
hope the pic is attached

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Ron James
April 11, 2013, 05:10 PM
The Model is known as the Mark 4/Hacksaw Model. :)

CaptFlint61
April 11, 2013, 05:18 PM
The barrel is crowned it has the original military sights, this was not a hacksaw job since the bayonet lug is machined into the barrel as on the standard models.

dprice3844444
April 11, 2013, 05:29 PM
#4 mk 1 tanker

CaptFlint61
April 11, 2013, 05:33 PM
never heard of that model; anyone have any history on it? I know there were some experiments to make shorter versions for commandos and the like. bought it a number of years ago as a good gun for the PU, both action 10 rounds of 30 caliber.

GCBurner
April 11, 2013, 05:35 PM
Navy Arms converted regular Enfield rifles to this fantasy "Tanker" configuration a number of years ago. They never existed as regular military issue.

Cosmoline
April 11, 2013, 05:36 PM
Not a bubba per se, but not military either. I believe it to be a Navy Arms "Tanker" variant for commercial sales.

jstein650
April 11, 2013, 05:42 PM
How's it shoot for you? (P.S. - you put a boulder on your car hood?)

CaptFlint61
April 11, 2013, 05:50 PM
It shoots fine - I travel and it is the type of rifle that no one will give me grief over and it was inexpensive less than $300
that is not boulder it is a fake rock that one of my companies build for the camo of various facilities located in sensitive areas. We do visual mitigation

www.structuralillusions.com

jstein650
April 11, 2013, 05:57 PM
Cool. (kinda figured :))

Jim K
April 11, 2013, 08:46 PM
The barrel at the cutoff point is thick enough that bayonet lugs can be machined out of it to give a military look. It is not an issue rifle, or even some kind of "experimental" one.

Jim

RustHunter87
April 11, 2013, 08:53 PM
To me it looks like a #5 with chopped with #4 wood, but its really short looks like fun!!

303tom
April 11, 2013, 11:13 PM
What size round does it shoot ?...............

jstein650
April 11, 2013, 11:20 PM
.303 British, unless re-barreled I would think.

303tom
April 11, 2013, 11:55 PM
.303 British, unless re-barreled I would think.
Can you tell for sure, those are .303 rounds, I can`t....................

Berkley
April 11, 2013, 11:56 PM
According to the 1996 Navy Arms catalog, the "Tanker" carbines were cut down versions of the No. 4 Mk I in .303 British, and Ishapore 2A available in .303 British and ".308 Winchester" (actually 7.62 NATO).
http://i46.tinypic.com/308egxh.jpg
CaptFlint61's rifle in the first picture above is the No. 4 Mk I version.

jstein650
April 12, 2013, 12:28 AM
Those MK 4 No 1's, still the best to my eye.
Per 303tom, no, not by the pic, but the OP was asking about the origins. I would think a re-barrel would be of significant consequence.

303tom
April 12, 2013, 10:19 AM
Well this is all I got to say about it....................
http://www.angelfire.com/nh/milarm/fakes.html

Dave Markowitz
April 12, 2013, 11:29 AM
Navy Arms converted regular Enfield rifles to this fantasy "Tanker" configuration a number of years ago. They never existed as regular military issue.

This is the correct answer. Back in the mid-1990s when I knew a gun writer, I had to opportunity to examine a stack of Lee-Enfields that Navy Arms' "gunsmiths" altered. Their 'smiths were on par with Century's dunken monkeys -- some of the rifles worked OK, others should never have left the shop. E.g., one No.4 which was missing the firing pin retaining screw, and a No.1 Mark III "Tanker" that shot a good foot and a half to the right at 50 yards.

I wrote up a scathing review which he faxed to Navy Arms, but we never received a reply.

Jim K
April 12, 2013, 12:01 PM
Berkley, look at the second paragraph under "A". It describes a "No. 4 Carbine" that sounds much like the OP's rifle. As the others have said, it is a cut down No.4 rifle, never issued in that configuration. It is the equivalent of the American "tanker Garand", a fake as far as being an issue weapon or having any historical significance.

Jim

Cosmoline
April 12, 2013, 01:39 PM
a No.1 Mark III "Tanker" that shot a good foot and a half to the right at 50 yards.

That's so you can lean out the left hand tank port and still hit guys over to the right.

CaptFlint61
April 12, 2013, 01:54 PM
It will put all rounds in a human sized target at 100 yds, shoots a respectable round 303 British. Makes a great truck gun and is legal in all the jurisdictions I travel in. I paid around $275 for it when I bought it.

RustHunter87
April 12, 2013, 02:32 PM
I bet I throws out a nice fireball!:D:evil:

dprice3844444
April 12, 2013, 08:14 PM
wish i would have bought one years ago.great in brushy areas.rebarrel it with a new barrel,if needed,you have a basic scout rifle.10 round mag plus stripper clips

Jim K
April 12, 2013, 10:09 PM
A note of caution about truck guns. In many states, it is either illegal to carry a handgun in a truck or car, or a concealed weapons license is required. So some folks carry a compact rifle or shotgun. And those are generally not addressed under the concealed weapons laws.

But in many states, a rifle or shotgun is illegal to have in a car or truck if loaded or if ammunition is present under the hunting/poaching laws. So it is not always OK to assume that just because the firearm is not a handgun it is legal to carry in a vehicle for personal protection.

Jim

CaptFlint61
April 13, 2013, 11:22 AM
If you shoot this at night wear sunglasses; in my 32 years of traveling the western US I have never encountered a issue with having a rifle or shotgun behind the seat. My work takes me into remote locations where in a lot of cases cell phone service in not available. If we are in the area a while most of the local LE persons will drop in and there have never been any issues.

wetpowder
April 13, 2013, 05:36 PM
That would make a great truck gun

montanaoffroader
April 13, 2013, 08:45 PM
I used to have a similar rifle, it was a very good truck gun. Should have kept it. :banghead:

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