DA cap and ball?


April 12, 2013, 08:07 PM
In light of some states recent developments regarding gun control, I think the market may be right for a modern design cap and ball, for lack of a better term, black powder revolver, using modern design bullets, along the lines of S&W modern revolvers. What say you?

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Ron James
April 12, 2013, 08:12 PM

April 12, 2013, 08:16 PM
Not necessary. There are a number of "traditional" C&B handguns that work just as well today, for anti-personnel purposes, as they did when they were introduced.

Heck, I carry this whenever I'm feeling whimsical, or just born in the wrong century.

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April 12, 2013, 08:35 PM
If so you'll see them bringing back the Ruger Old Army before developing anything new.

April 12, 2013, 08:58 PM
I had concealed carry in mind.

Ron James
April 12, 2013, 10:03 PM
Black Powder firearms have a lot of leeway in regards to the law. However in most states I have been in, a concealed black powder weapon is still a concealed dangerous weapon. My son arrested a ex felon who was carrying a Black powder pistol, His argument was it was a non-weapon. The court said it was a concealed dangerous weapon and the ex felon is now back in his old cell.

Jim K
April 12, 2013, 10:24 PM
I hate to burst a bubble, but concealed carry laws do not address the type of firearm being carried. A C&B revolver (or a flintlock pistol) may be an antique for purposes of handgun purchase laws, but for other criminal laws (concealed carry, ADW, armed robbery, etc.) it is no different than a Glock.


April 12, 2013, 10:53 PM
Funny thing Ron, if the con had been carrying openly he'd be walking around still... :)

4v50 Gary
April 12, 2013, 11:00 PM
How about the Starr Double Action cap 'n ball revolver?

April 12, 2013, 11:24 PM
The Starr?
That was introduced to the Union Army during the Civil War. No one liked it. They did like a single action variant that came out.
The Starr is an interesting old pistol but the double action mechanism is overly complex and ungainly -- especially so for a weapon considered for use as a self defense gun.

Ron James
April 13, 2013, 12:56 AM
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Dave Markowitz
April 13, 2013, 08:40 AM
The original Starr DA revolvers didn't work all that well. The Pietta repros are even worse.

345 DeSoto
April 13, 2013, 09:51 AM
In NYS, it's a non gun...until you have caps, powder, and ball even unloaded, with it. Then it has to be on a permit...

April 14, 2013, 06:47 AM
Legality aside, I'll soon be able to carry this li'l baby. It's on it's way.
54 bore ought to be able to handle most anything.
And for Velociraptors there's the 38 bore Dragoon size I'm picking up this afternoon :cool:

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April 14, 2013, 08:24 AM
I'll certainly agree that the Starr DA has some idiosyncrasies, but they can be overcome.
A little fine tuning of the action, learning how it operates, they do not like to be shot SA or put in half cock. Like many "first" designs, they had a few bugs. They are unique and draw a crowd at the line.


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