Most Accurate and Consistent Velocity .308 Ammo?


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msjayhawk
April 12, 2013, 10:51 PM
I have had some friends that target shoot say this is a good factory ammo. Who has more ideas on best factory/small manufacturer loads? I appreciate it.

http://remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-varmint-sf.aspx

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tahunua001
April 12, 2013, 10:59 PM
a person would think bitter root since that's what army marksmanship team uses...

if you need something super accurate your best bet is to start reloading, measure and trickle every single load to perfection and mess around with different powders and bullet weights till you find one that makes your gun purr like a kitten...

no factory load will ever perform as well as one that was loaded by hand.

ford8nr
April 12, 2013, 11:00 PM
Like anything it depends on the rifle. I have a M70 30-06 that LOVES 165gr Remington corelocs. It will shoot them almost as good as my premium hand loads.

Z-Michigan
April 12, 2013, 11:55 PM
Federal Gold Medal Match is pretty much the standard for anything widely available.

Not saying it's better than some small manufacturer like BVAC, but more widely used.

allaroundhunter
April 13, 2013, 02:28 AM
Federal Gold Medal Match is pretty much the standard for anything widely available.

Yup. Either the 168 gr or 175 gr flavors. That is the best factory stuff available, period.

gotboostvr
April 13, 2013, 02:34 AM
Federal Gold Medal Match 168 or 175, whichever is in more constant supply in your area.

Hornady and Black Hills make some very good target loads as well. Look for anything loaded with a Sierra MatchKing bullet pretty much.

VA27
April 13, 2013, 02:45 AM
Federal Gold Medal Match.

Reloadron
April 13, 2013, 06:19 AM
Short of rolling your own I am another in favor of Federal Gold Medal Match.

Ron

Hummer70
April 13, 2013, 06:51 AM
When the service teams shot M14s the gold standard was Federal Match 168s. The Marines wanted theirs loaded with 3031 and the Army had theirs loaded with 4895 and Federal used ball propellant in the over the counter match.

For the M1A and bolt gun a good middle of the road load was 40 gr. 4895 and I had several 9X cleans at 300 rapid fire with this load. Generally accuracy wise and for barrel life enhancement stay off the hot loads.

msjayhawk
April 16, 2013, 05:38 PM
Has anybody tried these? He makes AWESOME pistol ammo.

http://www.underwoodammo.com/308winchester168graina-maxboattailboxof20-2.aspx

ldlfh7
April 16, 2013, 05:55 PM
Core lokts are just as good as anything - without the expensive price tag. I have found my 308 likes 150gr vs 180gr though. Just depends on your rifle.

allaroundhunter
April 16, 2013, 06:02 PM
Core lokts are just as good as anything - without the expensive price tag. I have found my 308 likes 150gr vs 180gr though. Just depends on your rifle.

Core lokts are at best equal in price if not more expensive than Federal Gold Medal Match. In my neck of the woods FGMM is about $1/round when it is in stock.

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blueskyjaunte
April 16, 2013, 06:23 PM
Another 168gr. FGMM fan here. At least my rifle is a fan of it.

Craigman
April 16, 2013, 06:54 PM
Federal Gold Medal Match is pretty much the standard for anything widely available.

I also agree with this

BUT... Has anyone tried these SSA? They make awesome 6.8SPC ammo so I have been tempted to try their .308 stuff

http://www.ssarmory.com/7.62x51ammunition.aspx

taliv
April 16, 2013, 09:47 PM
SSA is horrible match ammo. HORRIBLE

Craigman
April 17, 2013, 12:20 AM
LOL good to know. Thanks.

chaser_2332
April 17, 2013, 12:23 AM
Copper creek ammo

jpwilly
April 17, 2013, 01:08 AM
Fed Gold Medal Match & Black Hills Gold (or handloads even better).

Both are loaded to the same velocity 168gr @ 2650fps or 175gr @ 2600fps and both shoot very well in my rifles. If your rifle won't shoot these there usually something wrong that needs fixed IMO.

Welding Rod
April 17, 2013, 11:21 AM
The most consistantly accurate factory ammo I have used is Federal GMM.

In 223 I have found Hornady TAP to be very impressive as well.

kanook
April 17, 2013, 11:28 AM
Georgia Arms 168 match grade has worked great for me since 94 or 95.

ball3006
April 17, 2013, 11:57 AM
Find out what your rifle likes. From your post, you appear not to have much experience shooting. It takes alot of practice to reach the full potential of "target grade" ammo. Start out with off the shelf ammo that your rifle likes, then when you are to reliablely keep all the shots in the X ring, move up to the higher grade ammo. Eventually, you may need to reload your own to find the maximum potential of your rifle.

This is what I do. Shoot the cheap ammo when having fun shooting. The only exceptioon is my M39 Mosin Nagant. It shoot under one inch groups with out of the box Privi 150 gr sp. I found this out by buying a box of that ammo to get some reloadable brass. Don't need to reload now.

It takes a long time to precision shoot. I have been shooting over 50 years and I have not reached that level yet. Mainly because I don't have the desire to reach that level. However, I would hate to get into a gunfight with me....chris3

Tempest 455
April 17, 2013, 01:39 PM
My Savage 10BA loves Black Hills 175 SMK.

SabbathWolf
April 17, 2013, 03:55 PM
http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t532/479WAbd/0022_zps1be47e95.jpg

LeonCarr
April 17, 2013, 04:06 PM
1. Handloads
2. Federal Gold Medal Match
3. Black Hills Match

The Handloader has to be on his/her A-Game to load better ammo than FGMM, but it can be done.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

jolly roger
April 20, 2013, 03:46 PM
Ditto on Federal Gold Medal. Also 42 grains of 4064 with Sierra 168 match and Federal match primer neck sized.

Derek Zeanah
April 20, 2013, 03:48 PM
Here's what I got when I tested FGGM 175gr: 10 round sample
31 fps range between slowest and fastest rounds
Mean velocity was 2,538 feet per second (20" barrel)
Standard deviation was 11.7 fps.Handloading can get better, but if there's another manufacturer that's significantly more consistent than this I'd want to test it myself to be sure.

LeonCarr
April 20, 2013, 05:34 PM
In Maj. John Plaster's first Ultimate Sniper book he wrote that he asked Federal Cartridge what made their .308 Match Ammunition so accurate, and they refused to tell him.

That tells me that not only are they using quality components but also "Top Secret" loading procedures :).

Good Stuff.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

thump_rrr
April 20, 2013, 08:15 PM
My 42.3 and 42.7 gr Varget loads have both shot .25moa at 200y using 180gr SMK's, CCI BR-2 primers on Lapua brass
Rifle is a Savage 10BA with the factory 24" barrel.

CAUTION: The following post includes loading data beyond currently published maximums for this cartridge. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Neither the writer, The High Road, nor the staff of THR assume any liability for any damage or injury resulting from use of this information.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c40/Thump_rrr/DSCN0824.jpg

msjayhawk
April 21, 2013, 01:12 AM
I wish there was some way to thank you all, but anyway, thanks.

Motega
April 21, 2013, 12:36 PM
DAG or MEN surplus works great in some rifles; Radway Green is also good. In general I'd suggest something you can get lots and lots of for a decent price and that is by a good company and do the minor adjustments on the scope/sights to match the ammo you use.
7.62 out of a .308 is fine.

exdxgxe4life
April 21, 2013, 08:39 PM
Agree 100% with post 24:


1. Handloads
2. Federal Gold Medal Match
3. Black Hills Match

Swampman
April 21, 2013, 09:38 PM
FGMM is awesome for factory ammo, I've been handloading for 36 years and the only way I can load ammo that consistently beats it is to uniform primer pockets and flash holes, turn necks and anneal for each loading.
The only bad thing that I've found about the Gold Medal Match is the brass life. It's so soft that I'm lucky to get 3 reloads out of it.

frank cain
April 22, 2013, 09:40 PM
guys i bought a DPMS LR 308. it has been a nightmare trying to find the sweet load!!!!! finally, i am having to settle foor 3/4 inch with 48.5 gr H380 WLR. most manuels suggest mag primers with projectiles over 150. with my rifle that is not the case. i handload every centerfire i own;be it pistol, rifle or shotgun. i tried varget,imr4350,4064,cfe223,. H380 won ;that was using 4 diff primers with 4 wts of each poeder. if anybody has a does have a fodder that will get to .35 pease let me know. i have that average with my other rifles. MUCH OBLIGED ..

frank cain
April 22, 2013, 09:44 PM
As you can see i do not very much and not very well!!

klw1911
April 24, 2013, 12:08 AM
I don't reload but i have 3 308's a rem 700 tactical w/20 in. barrel,a bm 59 beretta,and a saiga 308 w/16 in. barrel.Up until recently i mostly shot mil spec.147 grain ball then i ran across a deal from palmetto armory on the fed.match 168 and was amazed how well it shot out of all 3 guns.I wish they would put it on sale again (it was a dollar per round including shipping)but its not going to happen anytime soon if at all.

msjayhawk
April 24, 2013, 01:22 AM
Looks like Federal Gold Medal Match 168 Grain Sierra Match is the winner... I greatly appreciate all of the help, really.

Swampman
May 4, 2013, 10:36 AM
@ frank cain
It'd be easier to help if we knew what weight and type of bullet you're shooting.

I've never loaded for a .308 DI rifle so I may be off base here, but H380 and IMR4350 seem a tad slow for any gas gun to me. Even putting aside the fact that your velocities are gonna be 200 to 300 fps lower than what you'd likely get with more suitable powders, the port pressure/bolt velocity would almost certainly be a good bit higher than design spec.

If I were in your shoes, I think I'd try a few more traditional .308 gas gun powders such as RL-15, IMR4895, H4895, TAC, IMR4320 and VV N-135, then try shooting ladders from @500 yards.

Heck, who am I trying to kid, if I got a new, bone stock, semi auto 7.62x51 battle rifle that could consistently shoot .750" five shot groups, I'd be running around in circles yelling "HOOT HOOT" while laughing uncontrollably...

If I felt a real need to shoot a .35 inch group, I'd just try shooting from the 50! :)

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