1911 Grip Bushing Problem


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R Merrell
April 14, 2013, 11:44 AM
I have an aluminum framed 1911. Some of the grip panel bushings have stripped out, even after being installed with red Locktite. I purchase the oversized bushing repair kit from Brownells and replaced the stripped out bushings. Again, I used red Locktite when installing them. Those have also stripped out. They are stripping out when I am shooting not when I try to take the grip panels off. I tried JB weld (slow cure) to epoxy them in. I've done this three times, each time getting more aggressive with the metal prep. They keep popping loose while I'm shooting. I was informed that JB Weld is bit too brittle to handle the recoil. It was suggested I try regular epoxy. Tried this too. Same results.

Ultimately, I would like to have a new steel frame fitted to the slide. But, my other 1911 is at the manufacturer being repaired. So, I don't want to give this one up just yet. I'm looking for recommendations on an adhesive that will hold the bushings in until I'm ready to get a new frame?

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rcmodel
April 14, 2013, 12:03 PM
Have you tried Lock-Tight + staking them like they should have been to start with??

http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/power-tools-accessories/drill-bits/1911-auto-grip-bushing-staker-prod696.aspx

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/563977/ptg-grip-bushing-staker-1911

rc

R Merrell
April 14, 2013, 12:18 PM
It's way too late for that now!

rcmodel
April 14, 2013, 12:30 PM
Don't know what to tell you then.

Perhaps have the holes TIG welded shut and then re-drill & tap for a fresh do-over??

rc

TAKtical
April 14, 2013, 01:16 PM
Good advice rc. R Merrell, Its never too late to learn how to do something the right way.

gunsmither
April 14, 2013, 05:48 PM
Check Brownells for oversized bushings and tap. Re-tap and use Red Locktite along with staking the bushings; should solve the problem. You may also possibly be able to swage the hole tighter to re- tap.

Drail
April 15, 2013, 09:12 AM
Aluminum is for beer cans and airplanes and tent poles. But I am willing to bet that if some company started making knives or wrenches from aluminum plenty of people would buy them. (Once.) And when the customer complained of lousy performance to the manufacturer they would be told that they were either limp wristing it or it just needs more breaking in.

Jolly Rogers
April 15, 2013, 12:36 PM
^ Now that right there is funny...I don't care who you are!
I wish I had thought of it first.:D
Joe

R Merrell
April 15, 2013, 02:51 PM
Drail, I whole heartedly agree. I'll never buy an aluminum framed gun again. As a matter of fact, I think my solution to this might be to have the slide fitted to a new steel frame. Just need to find someone qualified to do it.

Jim K
April 15, 2013, 03:31 PM
I have not heard of that problem with alloy frames in general. Could you tell us what make the gun is? They must be using very soft aluminum, or there is something else wrong.

Jim

R Merrell
April 15, 2013, 07:33 PM
It's a Kimber CDP Pro.

Jim K
April 15, 2013, 11:32 PM
I know you want to keep that gun for a while, but have you contacted Kimber? They have sold a lot of those guns and this is the first time I have heard of bushings breaking out, so they might be willing to replace the frame free if the problem appears to be a defect in manufacture.

Jim

ApacheCoTodd
April 16, 2013, 10:37 PM
I've gone with the oversized with their own accompanying drill and tap a couple times in the past.
I see that it now comes with only the tap though I'm sure it tells you which drill to use - if needed.

http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/general-gunsmith-tools/taps-dies/taps/1911-auto-oversized-stock-bushings-tap-prod621.aspx

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