Stupid question of the week: RCBS Pro2000, why the integral die hole?


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1KPerDay
April 15, 2013, 05:50 PM
why is there one station built into the press? Is there an advantage to this design?


thanks

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Tom488
April 15, 2013, 06:27 PM
The original idea was that the powder measure would remain installed in station #3, and you would just dial in the new powder charge on the measure when you change calibers. This way, you didn't have to worry about moving the powder measure from die plate to die plate, nor did you need to have multiple lower powder die assemblies to accept the measure on each die plate.

Lately, with the introduction of the bullet feeders, it's become common to move the powder measure to station 2, where you can expand and powder charge using the RCBS powder expanders. With that, I agree, it makes less sense to have a fixed station #3. Using the powder measure with the powder expanders, the depth of the powder die becomes a critical measurement, so it's advantageous to have a powder die assembly on each die plate, so that you don't have to adjust the depth each time to get proper case mouth expansion (very critical if using a bullet feeder).

What I've done on my press was adapt the Dillon powder check system to the press. I leave that permanently installed in station #3, and do all my powder checking there. Each die plate now has a lower powder die installed in station 2, pre-set to the correct depth, and with the correct powder expander and spacer (if needed), so moving the powder measure from die plate to die plate takes only seconds. Once the measure is dialed in to dispense the correct powder charge, setting the Dillon powder check rod also takes but a few seconds. It actually works very well:

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/tlawrence488/IMG_0528.jpg

1KPerDay
April 15, 2013, 06:50 PM
Thanks. What was the original intent for station #2?? :confused: Why do I need 2 stations before dropping powder?

J2FLAN
April 15, 2013, 07:09 PM
Tom488--as he explained
Station 1 size and deprime, #2 bell the case, #3 charge the case, #4 seat the bullet, #5 crimp and/ or size. (FCD).
Pretty simple huh. Well least for me.
If you like the dedicated hole for a die, check out the Hornady L-N-L, it has 5 of them.

1KPerDay
April 16, 2013, 12:40 PM
Pretty simple huh. Well least for me.
My Lee dies bell and charge in the same station.

Kp321
April 16, 2013, 05:02 PM
Looks like RCBS is getting around Dillon's patent on the die carrier.

Peter M. Eick
April 16, 2013, 05:38 PM
My impression is that more and more folks put the powder dispense and expand on station 2 so they can have a powder check on 3. I know I switched so I could do it that way.

To bad we don't have 2 more stations and I would actually prefer that there be no top plate. I would rather have it solid but then you would have an issue with getting everything to line up perfectly.

buckbrush
April 19, 2013, 03:43 AM
Dillons patent on the die plate ran out around the year 2000!

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