Help identifying this press.


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TooManyToys
April 15, 2013, 10:32 PM
Is this a single station C & H?
Are these still available?

The black parts are anodized Alum. it's in great condition, and the slide opperates smooth as silk!

Can someone help ID the model and aprox. value?

Thanks.

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ReloaderFred
April 15, 2013, 10:43 PM
If there are no markings on it, I'd guess someone made a copy of a CH press, and did a good job of it.

Hope this helps.

Fred

gamestalker
April 15, 2013, 10:45 PM
I wouldn't mind having a single stage like that. Nice press, but I have no idea what it is.
GS

TooManyToys
April 16, 2013, 12:34 AM
Are CH presses like this marked with a model number or their name anywhere?

ReloaderFred
April 16, 2013, 02:25 AM
All the CH presses I've seen have been marked. I'm also not sure if they ever used aluminum for the cross pieces. There is a guy on castboolits.com who goes by Pressman who is an expert on the older presses. He may know what it is. I'll PM him the link.

Hope this helps.

Fred

Kevin Rohrer
April 16, 2013, 07:09 AM
CH presses like that had aluminum crosspieces. It LOOKS like a CH, but if those letters aren't cast into the base, it is a clone.

http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/KevinRohrer/Reloading/IMG_0214.jpg

ReloaderFred
April 16, 2013, 11:38 AM
All of my CH equipment has the "CH" molded into the press somewhere.

Fred

TooManyToys
April 16, 2013, 12:04 PM
Well thats interesting,.. because the base on this one is not cast, but was machined from a solid Aluminum block. Same with the cross pieces too, all machined stock & anodized black. The quality through out is 1st class all the way.

I got this in nothern Ill. which for the last centry has been one of the machine tool capitols of the world. Could be this is some machinests custom made one off press, or maybe more likely, these were produced by a shop in small numbers?

Anyone seen another press one like this?

KansasSasquatch
April 16, 2013, 12:18 PM
I don't know much about CH presses but to me it sure looks like someone thought they could copy it and make it better. If they made it out of a good strong billet they just might have succeeded.

TooManyToys
April 16, 2013, 12:48 PM
Here are a couple more pictures.

ReloaderFred
April 16, 2013, 09:35 PM
TooManyToys,

Here is the response from Pressman on the castboolits.com forum:

Fred, that is a factory made, C-H Magnum H press. It is all aluminum. Most were red though the last one made were black. They were all made of aluminum. The one pictured is in really nice shape with most of its paint still there. The paint falls of rather easily.
Ken

He knows his stuff when it comes to the old presses, so if he says it's a factory press, I'm more than willing to accept that as being the case.

Hope this helps.

Fred

TooManyToys
April 16, 2013, 10:24 PM
Thanks Fred.
It might be worth noting to "Pressman" that this one isn't painted black, the black finish is actually hard anodizing. The non black parts are plated steel.

Did Pressman give any indication what the value of a CH Magnum H is worth in this kind of condition?

ReloaderFred
April 17, 2013, 01:33 AM
He didn't offer an estimate of value on the press. I copied and pasted his entire answer, so that's all I got from him.

Sorry,

Fred

TooManyToys
April 17, 2013, 01:27 PM
Thank you for your help Fred!

Edarnold
April 18, 2013, 12:43 AM
See their website at 'CH4D.com'; the current version is the model 444 with the flat base and black finish. This model has been super-sized by making the die-holder top and the ram wider, so there are now four stations rather than one.

MSRP is $295 for the new one, so I'd guess yours is worth maybe $125 if the condition is as in the photos. Standard dies will fit, the universal shell holder is available from them. These things just don't wear out, my old red-finish has been in use since 1957 and is as straight and smooth as in it was new.

ReloaderFred
April 18, 2013, 10:17 AM
TooManyToys,

Pressman got back to me and said since he's not a member of THR, so he wasn't able to see your pictures. The picture he did see was Kevin's, and that's the press he was referring to.

I still think your press is a copy of a CH press that someone made. Here is a link to a factory CH press similar to yours that is for sale: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230964966536&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

This should give you an idea of what the original press looked like. I also didn't see a provision on your press for priming, so the original maker must have been priming off press.

Hope this helps.

Fred

Ken70
April 20, 2013, 02:22 PM
That's a home made, no logo, factory has a single mounting hole on the back side of the press. OP's unit has two holes. Somebody with a mill and some 1" plate could make that in 4 or 5 hours. Plus some steel rod and a few other bits.

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