Were these the longest four months of your gun-owning life?


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BK
April 18, 2013, 09:23 PM
Mid-December 2012 to Mid-April 2013

How were the last four months for you guys?

Not to say that the war is over but this battle certainly did wear at me. We all should be able to remember the fear that was flowing strong around here, the stress, people talking about sleeplessness, and of course the panic. It's nice to be on this side of that battle. :)

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beatledog7
April 18, 2013, 09:29 PM
I did my letter writing even though I never thought there was much of a chance that any sweeping new restrictions would fly at the national level or in my two states. I was correct, so far.

I still think the antis are not giving up, but I still think we will keep winning.

Cosmoline
April 18, 2013, 09:30 PM
I wasn't too worried about the legal end until Coburn started talking turkey with them. That scared me. Still does.

But the big impact has been at the business end where the shops are swept clean. I'm going to be shifting to black powder this summer because of it. I'm afraid the days of carefree shooting letting the 5.56 brass fall where it may are gone.

SharpsDressedMan
April 18, 2013, 09:43 PM
I can take the shortage, but a review of the forums has been very disturbing. .................. http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n270/Bubblehead_2006/Whining.gif :D

bk42261
April 18, 2013, 09:53 PM
In Maine, we have "moderate" Susan Collins, and "Independent" Angus King.
Read that Socialist and Communist, so, yeah, I was concerned.
They both voted for UBC,as it was a "reasonable,fair" bill.

joeschmoe
April 18, 2013, 09:57 PM
Don't whine. Vote the bastards out.

exbrit49
April 18, 2013, 10:02 PM
At my age I wasn't too perturbed at all, I wrote letters to my federal reps but I carried on loading and shooting as usual. Been through all this guff before. No I didn't disclose my age but lets just say I have had a CCW for over 40 years.
Had a few chuckles at some of the alarmists and "chicken little's", With that said, we don't need to get complacent as it will happen again.
My own feeling wont be popular but I think we could really take the High Road and offer some suggestions and alternatives to the weapon bans and NCI checks.
I really think we could take a lot of wind out of the sails of the real fanatical anti gun crowd by offering legitimate well though out realistic actions that would at least try to avoid instances of mass shootings etc.
Most of us are pretty decent individuals and were heartbroken at some of the incidents of the past few years.
SO instead of constantly being on the defensive,. Lets go on the offensive in a polite and rational manner.
It does work!

dark.zero.x
April 18, 2013, 10:04 PM
It's not over yet. 3 years 5 months and 17 days to go

Chris-bob
April 18, 2013, 10:04 PM
It's not over.

tomrkba
April 18, 2013, 10:10 PM
Life as usual. That last six months of the 1994 ban was the worst.

Bruno2
April 18, 2013, 10:16 PM
I have been through the first ban. I knew they would be hard pressed to get anything like this passed. The UBC proposal had me sweating though with all the turncoat support Manchin Toomey got. I was wanting to buy some AR lowers and more reloading supplies and that was making me mad tat this BS was going on.It's over for now so maybe everything will return to the shelves and prices come back down to planet earth.

carbuncle
April 18, 2013, 10:25 PM
We won the battle, but the war continues. I'm glad to be able to stopt he emails for now, but we have to remain vigilant.

Posted from my car phone.

Bartholomew Roberts
April 19, 2013, 12:09 AM
1994 was OK for me because there was no Internet and by the time I knew what was going to happen, it was too late.

1999 post-Columbine was my first big Internet organizing against gun control. I thought we were going to lose that one for sure, so that was a big surprise. It helped open my eyes to how powerful this medium can be for organization.

2004 - S.1805 and the eventual death of the AWB was probably my favorite though.

All of those were much more tense for me than this one since I had previous experience and learned to count votes better.

Ignition Override
April 19, 2013, 03:15 AM
No. But I've been trying to understand why the masses mostly panicked over a perceived future ammo shortage, which has no rational basis.

Those of us who have stored ammo since '08-'09 have just been waiting for dry weather to shoot. It will soon be too hot and humid.

OARNGESI
April 19, 2013, 05:14 AM
No i had plenty of ammo mags and guns going into this. A couple bricks of 22lr is all i really need right now, i should be good through the end of the year. But over all i can't complain i was even able to sell a couple guns and up grade with no money out of my pocket.

clutch
April 19, 2013, 06:20 AM
Yes, it has been stressful. I hope we don't all think we kicked their booty and we can go back to doing our thing.

We wounded the beast, it lives, it wants to hurt us, it is out there looking for a chance at us and is planning revenge.

Bloomberg is in quite excellent health and barely touched any of his money that is funding a lot of this cra pe.

Keep your powder dry!

BigBore44
April 19, 2013, 06:31 AM
It's never over. But lets maybe write a few "atta boy" letters to those who supported us. I have to write a few and say thank you for voting the way they did. Coburn is one of them. It looks like he was smarter than I gave him credit for. Seems he voted in favor to get an actual vote, then voted it down.

Midwest
April 19, 2013, 06:58 AM
Longest four months? As in trying to find ammo? When one has to wait in line while the truck is unloaded and hoping that they have ammo tells me that it is still going on.

Or the waiting to see what gun control measures are introduced or passed? Well the last four months were hell for gun owners in CT, NY, CA, CO and MD. Whatever gun rights we got passed in the last decade seemed to be at stake and the negative media onslaught from the politicians to the Hollywood left was incredible.

Just this morning on the local morning news, they implied gun control is not finished and 'compromises' are still being sought. Meantime a Senator has talked about restricting black or reloading powder. So much for a way around the ammo shortage. 1994 was bad, but this time it seemed they pulled out all the stops.

If it wasn't for the internet and the momentum of the concealed carry movement, this all could have ended up looking more like the Brady II proposals http://www.volokh.com/posts/1190402417.shtml.

And they are not finished yet, several anti-gun politicians have stated that they will try again.

Were these the longest 4 months?

Yes...but it is not over yet...

Vector
April 19, 2013, 07:33 AM
Mid-December 2012 to Mid-April 2013

How were the last four months for you guys?

Not to say that the war is over but this battle certainly did wear at me. We all should be able to remember the fear that was flowing strong around here, the stress, people talking about sleeplessness, and of course the panic. It's nice to be on this side of that battle. :)

I would include the month leading up to the election because I knew if Obama was re-elected something like what is happening was inevitable. Some accused the NRA of scare tactics leading up to the election, yet as usual they knew better than their critics.

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huntsman
April 19, 2013, 09:28 AM
I last bought a gun in Dec 011, I last bought ammo in Aug 012, don't know if I ever buy another gun but I may need to buy ammo at some point.

Life as usual for me

pockets
April 19, 2013, 10:08 AM
In my 50 years of firearms ownership, the past 4 months were hardly "the longest four months of your gun-owning life". Not even close.

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BSA1
April 19, 2013, 10:16 AM
It ain't over yet. The danger is greater now than before the vote earlier this week.

Water-Man
April 19, 2013, 10:25 AM
I've got more important (to me) concerns going on in my life.

These situations will never go away and if things get worse I'll deal with it and so can you.

rdhood
April 19, 2013, 10:30 AM
These situations will never go away

Yep. Learn from them. Be prepared for next time, because there WILL be a next time and we may not see it coming until we hear it on the news.

HoosierQ
April 19, 2013, 10:31 AM
Yes it probably was. Didn't loose much sleep but, and it's happened before for other reasons, sold a gun that I probably wish I had not. However, once I replace it with what I am called an "unbannable" replacement (yes, I know, I know, the antis will never stop until they have all our guns, yes, yes, I know) I'll be over it.

It will in fact take two to replace the one. The first one is already in hand with ammo. The second, a pistol caliber lever gun is within reach and I already have a lot of ammo. Saw some real nice ones in 44mag but I have none of that and even when plentiful, that's expensive until I get to reloading (probably a post retirement thing at this point). So .357 it shall be there.

So yes, this has not been a happy time as a gun owner even if the sky doesn't fall.

tyeo098
April 19, 2013, 10:46 AM
Built an AK for around 350$ and a DPM in progress.

Now I have an AK at the height of the panic, and I didn't pay panic prices!

Dframe
April 19, 2013, 11:19 AM
It's NOT over. ENRAGED leftists will be back, and among other things will specifically target the courageous democrats who voted against this monstrosity. This is a never ending struggle and you can BET they are planning ever more attacks on your rights. They've already shown that there are NO limits to how low they'll go to further their agenda. Especially taking their lead from the dispicable (Saul Alinsky)tactics of obama.
ETERNAL VIGILANCE!

Ohio Gun Guy
April 19, 2013, 11:20 AM
Voted yes, but leading up to the Heller decision was the most stressfull for me.

The whole collective right vs individual right, banning of whole types of firearms, effective complete ban by legislative entanglement, etc was in that debate

CoRoMo
April 19, 2013, 11:21 AM
Depends on what state you live in. In Colorado, the stress continues. We were forced to panic; 15+ capacity magazines becoming restricted July 1st caused me to spend money I never intended to spend on several dozen magazines that I never intended to acquire so hastily. I didn't pay panic prices but I had to jump on some opportunities that I otherwise would have seen little point in. It's been a lousy four months but it could be worse.

230RN
April 19, 2013, 11:37 AM
I would include the month leading up to the election because I knew if Obama was re-elected something like what is happening was inevitable. Some accused the NRA of scare tactics leading up to the election, yet as usual they knew better than their critics.

This. I was really disturbed by the naysayers who kept spouting off about how paranoid all the "scare tactics" were. We knew that the extreme leftists were keeping a low profile on firearms and would leap at any chance to work against the Second Amendment.

Yet these naysayers were saying things like, "they don't have the political capital to do it," and "they have other things, like the economy, to worry about besides guns" and kept throwing the tinfoil hat accusations around. "After all, didn't they remove the gun plank from their platform?" was one of the scariest statements making the rounds on the gun boards. As if that took gun control off the table completely

Well, fellows, you were wrong, and many of us "tin foil hat wearers" knew that in this period between 2008 and now, it would happen exactly as it has in these last four months.

With the great piles of money being thrown into the struggle, the cooperation of a generally leftist media, the highly sophisticated tactics and strategies of the extreme left, the continuing appointment of compliant judges (even at the lower levels), you can bet your bottom dollar that the next great tragedy will trigger another onslaught against the core amendment of freedom.

Keep thinking otherwise, keep throwing accustations of paranoia around, keep thinking "it can't happen in America," and guess what?

The past four months will happen again and again until...

http://nimg.sulekha.com/others/original700/kenya-guns-destruction-2010-3-25-4-15-47.jpg

Terry, 230RN

Buzzsaw46
April 19, 2013, 11:51 AM
I haven't been too stressed about ammo as I stocked up on some last summer, wish I had a bit more 22lr on hand though. I did get a bit exhausted by the time and energy spent fighting the state and federal gun grabbers. I'm glad to have a short break on the federal level at least.

JFrame
April 19, 2013, 12:12 PM
I did more letter-writing and donating to the NRA than usual.

And yes -- I agree with others that the war on the 2A is FAR from over (or that it will ever be over)...


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Capt. Blackadder
April 19, 2013, 12:18 PM
I don't know about yall, but here in the Democratic People's Republic of Maryland we are still sweating bullets with the FSA 2013 passing due to the will of our "glorious" leader Kim Jong Owe Maolley :cuss: :barf: :fire: Let us remember that the fight is not only not over, but there are still more battlefields to be fought at the state level.

TIMC
April 19, 2013, 12:39 PM
The longest months of my gun owning life started October 29th when the BATF cashed my check for the suppressors I have been waiting for!

GrOuNd_ZeRo
April 19, 2013, 01:02 PM
Actually the first 2 months were...Full blown panic on my part fearing the absolute worst.

There was word of a new American revolution, forced buy backs, confiscation, "Assault Weapons" becoming NFA items and much other stuff, it felt to me it was a full blown war against the liberty loving people of the US.

but...IT'S NOT OVER YET! Obummer is threatning executive action on the background check stuff!

almostfree
April 19, 2013, 01:09 PM
The ill-advised legislation in Colorado was and still is a significant source of stress for me.

Vector
April 19, 2013, 02:45 PM
This. I was really disturbed by the naysayers who kept spouting off about how paranoid all the "scare tactics" were. We knew that the extreme leftists were keeping a low profile on firearms and would leap at any chance to work against the Second Amendment.

Yet these naysayers were saying things like, "they don't have the political capital to do it," and "they have other things, like the economy, to worry about besides guns" and kept throwing the tinfoil hat accusations around. "After all, didn't they remove the gun plank from their platform?" was one of the scariest statements making the rounds on the gun boards. As if that took gun control off the table completely

Well, fellows, you were wrong, and many of us "tin foil hat wearers" knew that in this period between 2008 and now, it would happen exactly as it has in these last four months.

With the great piles of money being thrown into the struggle, the cooperation of a generally leftist media, the highly sophisticated tactics and strategies of the extreme left, the continuing appointment of compliant judges (even at the lower levels), you can bet your bottom dollar that the next great tragedy will trigger another onslaught against the core amendment of freedom.

Keep thinking otherwise, keep throwing accustations of paranoia around, keep thinking "it can't happen in America," and guess what?

The past four months will happen again and again until...

http://nimg.sulekha.com/others/original700/kenya-guns-destruction-2010-3-25-4-15-47.jpg

Terry, 230RN

Excellent post, and not just because you carried on my theme.

It is a fact, not opinion that many a naysayer was wrong, yet I do not see a bunch of "I was wrong" threads authored by them as an act of contrition.

I'm tempted to either start a poll to allow them to acknowledge they were wrong, or even do research to ferret them out, and confront them with their misguided views which turned out to be dead wrong.

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P5 Guy
April 19, 2013, 04:57 PM
This didn't start mid December, 2012 and it will not end until all the citizens of the world are disarmed.
The fight for freedom is continuos. :banghead:

NYH1
April 19, 2013, 07:57 PM
It's been absolutely horrible for us here in Central New Yorkistan. We used to be able to buy 223/5.56 ammo in different flavors in a dozen different stores any time we wanted to pre Sandy Hook/obama's second election win. Now only one store gets some in every once in a while. Once it's in it's sold out that day.

It was the same way with AR15 10 round magazines too. Once adolf cuomo and his gang said that we will still be able to buy 10 rd. mags. instead of the newly required 7 rd. mags. limit as the NY UNSAFE Act says, they're starting to stay on some stores shelves here and there. Hopefully ammo will start to do the samething soon.

NYH1.

Bruno2
April 19, 2013, 09:43 PM
I am having a hard time understanding why the New England states which were the pioneers of liberty have been raked over the coals on the gun laws. This really doesnt make any sense. CT, MA , NY, NJ , MD?? I mean what has happened here? These were the homes of the sons of liberty. The Boston Tea Party, The shot heard round the world. The residences of the founders who drafted our constitution.

mike.h
April 19, 2013, 10:05 PM
probably, but it's not over yet,...hmmm..., it may never be over

I have enough guns to make due, but I don't have enough primers, powder or 22's. :-(

Sauer Grapes
April 19, 2013, 10:19 PM
Depends on your definition of ''getting to me''. I was quite angry. Sick and tired of having to defend my right to persue my hobby.
It does get tiresome at times.

orionengnr
April 19, 2013, 10:21 PM
Were these the four most annoying months of your THR membership?

There, fixed it for you. :rolleyes:

I lived through 1968, 1996 and 2008. I'll make it through 2013.

The difference is, these days everything is hyped to the nth degree. And nobody knows what the nth degree is anymore...because they live it every day.

huntsman
April 19, 2013, 11:43 PM
I am having a hard time understanding why the New England states which were the pioneers of liberty have been raked over the coals on the gun laws. This really doesnt make any sense. CT, MA , NY, NJ , MD?? I mean what has happened here? These were the homes of the sons of liberty. The Boston Tea Party, The shot heard round the world. The residences of the founders who drafted our constitution.
The relatives forgot their history

SuperNaut
April 19, 2013, 11:47 PM
'94 was way worse.

Rollis R. Karvellis
April 20, 2013, 12:26 AM
1994, was much worse because as we all know nobody in congress would really vote for a gun ban. Just like President Bush would never sign a bill that banned any guns. Yes that is as silly as the ideal that President Reagan would sign a gun control law.

THERE HAS NOT BEEN A PRO GUN PRESIDENT SINCE BEFORE 1900. AND JUST TO BE HONEST PROBABLY NOT SINCE 1800.

The last four months have been very stressful, but the gun debate was about 5 steps down on my list of stresses.

Swichblade
April 20, 2013, 01:31 AM
It's a minor inconvenience not being able to shoot my .38 special I bought in December or get dies for it, but I have other guns.

MikeS.
April 20, 2013, 03:27 AM
Nope, been here done it before. Just another(big) battle down. Plenty more to come. The anti's will keep trying. Matter of fact I expect they'll try to slip a bill thru the Senate in the next few weeks since the eyes are now off of them.

MikeS.
April 20, 2013, 03:33 AM
The longest months of my gun owning life started October 29th when the BATF cashed my check for the suppressors I have been waiting for!
Forget 4 months. I know from very recent experience 6 months or more. Last year and again this year. Latest was 9/17 - 3/14.

Bobson
April 20, 2013, 03:36 AM
Why does the title imply that its over? This is only the beginning, friends.

I voted life as usual.

FROGO207
April 20, 2013, 08:41 AM
Just another day for the gun rights fight IMHO. How many things will they try after the Boston problems?:banghead: The Media was trying to tie the bombings to firearms in the first reports on NBC on Monday and it just got worse from there. :barf::cuss:

Deltaboy
April 20, 2013, 09:17 AM
It has been a pain and I was as concerned as I have been since Bill pushed the WEB through in 94.

bri
April 20, 2013, 09:39 AM
The only thing that got to me was all the posts on THR full of complaining, conspiracy theories, ammo prices, etc, etc.

Oh wait, that's still going on...

ExTank
April 20, 2013, 10:19 AM
I voted "Yes, It Was Sort OF Rough." And would add, "It ain't over yet."

Not the shortage of guns or ammo; I was pretty well supplied before Newtown and the subsequent madness, because I predicted Obama would try something like this the very first opportunity he got.

Obama and his gun-control coterie aren't even down, and nowhere near "out." This latest setback to them won't faze them one bit. They'll back off for a bit, reformulate their strategy, and be right back as strong as ever.

They will not stop until the last privately owned firearm in the hands of a civilian is turned in/confiscated, and cut/crushed/melted down.

Believe it.

bigdaa
April 20, 2013, 11:14 AM
I remember the Assault Weapons Ban of 94 so very well. I spent a ton of money on everything up until that.

However, I have never seen anything like these last four in my 57 years.

bannockburn
April 20, 2013, 11:48 AM
I was perhaps more concerned this time around, especially when there's a certain politcal party is in a greater position of power in Washington D.C.

Still we won this round and are back to waiting and watching for their next move, always vigilant in the safeguarding of our rights.

GBExpat
April 20, 2013, 11:50 AM
I have been a gun owner for 50 years and during that time "they" have just kept chipping away at the Right confirmed to us by the Founding Fathers in 2A ... so the past 4 months was not that much more stressful for me.

In addition, I had already managed to put together what I consider to be an "adequate" collection of firearms, hi-cap mags, ammunition and reloading components ... and I reside in a gun-friendly/-sensible state that benefits greatly from the dedicated stewardship of the VCDL. :)

ol' scratch
April 20, 2013, 01:40 PM
It was rough and I planned ahead. Oddly enough, I did get some pretty good modern and realistic prices on some magazines, particularly some FN FAL mags. Now I am waiting for the Circle 10 5.56 Bulgarian mags to come down.

Fishslayer
April 20, 2013, 06:56 PM
I voted "No" because IMO the worst is yet to come in **********.

Among other things, it looks very much like we are getting laws that will...

-require registration of ALL guns. ALL of them. Even the ones we already own.

-Make pretty much any .22 rimfire rifle with a detachable magazine an assault weapon.

There's plenty more...:fire::fire:

230RN
April 20, 2013, 06:59 PM
I guess what we need is a fat lady who sings in the Presidency.

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