"Automatic gunfire" a pretty loose term


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holdencm9
April 19, 2013, 08:18 PM
Just watching ABC news of the search for the boston bomber. The headline said "automatic gunfire" was heard near the lockdown area

then they played the audio of the gunfire

"pop........pop.........pop."

Literally a second or so between shots. Even my wife who never shoots knows the difference and said it doesn't sound like full-auto.

How can we educate the public and/or media on the difference?!? :banghead:

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newfalguy101
April 19, 2013, 08:19 PM
Education only works for those who care....

nosmr2
April 19, 2013, 08:28 PM
I heard that too and got a laugh out of it.

holdencm9
April 19, 2013, 08:29 PM
Education only works for those who care....

That's true. They no longer have it say "automatic." It just says "shots fired," or shots heard. So maybe they were called on it after they played the audio.

I guess from a shots-per-minute standpoint, there is no minimum for what constitutes automatic. It is strictly a mechanical definition.

Boomerang
April 19, 2013, 08:47 PM
I heard it. As in, out my window. I'm just on the other side of the river. Total lockdown. Glad I got milk. I'm out of beer. It's been sirens since 2am. there are thousands of police. I'm armed at home.

TheSaint
April 19, 2013, 08:50 PM
Anything short of of a musket loader is "automatic gunfire" to the biased media and gun grabbers. Once again, you can't beat the media, but you can explain things in a calm and rational fashion to non gun-owners in person. You make converts outside of the biased system, not through it. While you're at it, cancel your cable subscription! :)

toivo
April 19, 2013, 09:06 PM
In journalist-speak, all handguns are Glocks, all semi-auto rifles are "assault weapons," and anything more than a single gunshot is "automatic fire."

Texan Scott
April 19, 2013, 09:17 PM
Anything short of of a musket loader is "automatic gunfire" to the biased media and gun grabbers.

And if Lautenberg has his way, you'll be filling out a NICS form explaining your "need" for "bomb powder" for that muzzle loader.

PedalBiker
April 19, 2013, 09:25 PM
Maybe it was automatic because it was the result of a robot or drone and no human initiated it......

Our news folks are just plain ignorant.

I've even talked to people who hunt who had no idea an M-16 shoots a gopher cartridge - they thought it was some "super powerful" gun. At least most hunters can be educated.

jmace57
April 19, 2013, 09:29 PM
I heard it. As in, out my window. I'm just on the other side of the river. Total lockdown. Glad I got milk. I'm out of beer. It's been sirens since 2am. there are thousands of police. I'm armed at home.
Be safe amigo!

jmorris
April 19, 2013, 09:29 PM
I have an automatic sprinkler system on my septic system and it goes "chicka, chicka, chicka" but puts out less crap than you will see on the "news"

TheSaint
April 19, 2013, 09:29 PM
And if Lautenberg has his way, you'll be filling out a NICS form explaining your "need" for "bomb powder" for that muzzle loader.
No kidding. I've just put in a large order for powder and primers, can't wait till they are delivered before lazy Laut tries to tie us in with these madmen terrorizing Boston right now. :scrutiny:

Hacker15E
April 20, 2013, 08:10 AM
I heard one of the newscasters talking about how he had "heard assault rifle fire", followed by somewhat rapid -- but quite obviously semiautomatic -- shots in the background noise.

I think that's quite a skill, to be able to tell what kind of firearm is shooting based on just the noise like that.

FROGO207
April 20, 2013, 09:10 AM
Those talking heads are experts in everything, they will tell you even if you don't ask.:cuss: In WWII the English SMLE riflemen were so proficient with their rifles that the Germans thought they were up against individuals with automatic firearms while in reality they were bolt action rifles.:cool:

ultratec1
April 20, 2013, 09:50 AM
My favorite description of the shooting was........ "it sounds like out going fire, but no incoming fire at this time" what that hell does that mean?? I heard the term outgoing and incoming fire many times in the desert but how a reporter 2 city blocks away can tell what is incoming and outgoing just cracked me up. That followed by, you can hear the automatic fire from the suspects handgun as the police close in on him.

Ugggh I laugh then shake my head thinking that these are the people who actually fight gun rights.

bigdaa
April 20, 2013, 11:17 AM
ALL Firearm terms used by the MSM are loose fits.

Some do not fit at all. Others are down right confused and enraging.

But..........the populace is considered to be mindless drones. The MSM is not cognizant of folks like us that can actually tell the difference between rimfire ammunition and M777 155mm rounds.

Double Naught Spy
April 20, 2013, 11:34 AM
My 1911 is a Colt Automatic Pistol. Gunfire from it, using .45 Automatic Colt Pistol ammo, would be automatic gunfire.

beatledog7
April 20, 2013, 11:37 AM
They are not journalists. They are not reporters. They don't need to or care to know anything about firearms beyond the overly generic and inaccurate terms they're taught to use.

They are entertainers. They get paid to support the network goal of keeping viewers tuned in so it can report high numbers to its advertisers. If you believe they are anything more than that, please go ahead and believe what they say as well.

tazcat2005
April 20, 2013, 11:45 AM
Local news in Boston kept calling the AR's the police were carrying AK-47's.

Blackstone
April 20, 2013, 11:50 AM
Nothing like big action words to really attract the attention of the viewship

GBExpat
April 20, 2013, 11:57 AM
For those who may not be familiar with the terminology, google Yellow Journalism, a.k.a., Yellow Press.

bigdaa
April 20, 2013, 12:01 PM
For those who may not be familiar with the terminology, google Yellow Journalism, a.k.a., Yellow Press.
VERY good point!

holdencm9
April 20, 2013, 12:56 PM
Local news in Boston kept calling the AR's the police were carrying AK-47's.

That's due to role reversal. Since the AR has been so demonized, it is no longer the good guy gun. And the AK has been flying under the radar so it is no longer the bad-guy, terrorist, commie gun.

For those who may not be familiar with the terminology, google Yellow Journalism, a.k.a., Yellow Press.

It most definitely is yellow journalism. To a tee.

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