I found all the missing ammo.


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jr_roosa
April 20, 2013, 12:20 AM
I stopped by the gun shop down the street on the way to a meeting and found this:

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Two pallets of ammo, full shelves, racks of guns, display cabinets totally full of handguns, and cases of magazines on the floor.

They had all guns and mags going for MSRP according to the guy at the counter, which isn't a bargain, but also isn't quite gouging, and the ammo seemed a little pricey. $34/50 rounds of WWB 45ACP, $67 for 100 round boxes. It was either 1 box per person per day or 1 of each caliber per person per day, but I didn't need anything so I didn't ask further.

I got the limit of 4 20 round PMAGS ($14 each), but it looked like you could have all the Colt 30s or Thermold 30s you could want. They also had the surefire 100 round mags, but the price was over $100, which may be MSRP...they're a little silly so I never pricechecked them before.

Anyway, it's the Centennial Gun Store on Arapahoe Rd. If you are making a trip, you should have BBQ at Jabbo's right down the street. Maybe I'll see you there. I might need a few more PMags.

-J.

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bensdad
April 20, 2013, 01:04 AM
A friend and I hit the Owatanna Cabelas at 8:00am today. They had two stacks of the 2100 Fed bulk pack .22 (comes in a dry-box as 4 boxes of 550). Also had cci 333 packs on the shelf.

I think things will be back to normal by end of summer.

TheSaint
April 20, 2013, 01:15 AM
Better stock up on those mags before those new laws take full effect!

jr_roosa
April 20, 2013, 01:21 AM
Better stock up on those mags before those new laws take full effect!

I've spent enough on mags to pay for a new gun in the last 2 months. It burns my butt! I don't even have an AR or an M1A yet. With my luck, the magazine law will get repealed before I get around to buying a rifle that will take them. I still have a few guns on the list ahead of them. Fortunately, the US senate bill crashed and burned, so I don't need to buy at panic prices.

-J.

Alizard
April 20, 2013, 02:24 AM
Looks like photoshop to me.....:D

Queen_of_Thunder
April 20, 2013, 09:40 AM
At $67 a hundred its going to stay right there on the shelf. Thats more than I'm willing to pay for WWB.

KTXdm9
April 20, 2013, 11:46 AM
I was able to find .45 for $18.99/box locally at Academy and Wal-Mart. It's definitely getting better.

BigBoreJay
April 20, 2013, 11:50 AM
I was in three LGS yesterday - all had ammo and firearms. I saw plenty of 9mm, but I wasn't looking for ammo so I really didn't pay much attention.

One thing I DID notice - one store had just received several cases of new Federal .223 packaged loose in ziplock bags. It looked like packaging couldn't keep up with manufacturing.

jr_roosa
April 20, 2013, 12:01 PM
Yay. Now I just need some reloading components.

-J.

hacksaw
April 20, 2013, 04:42 PM
Ammo is still kinda hit or miss here in S.C. Still .70/rnd and more for .45 a bit higher for 9mm.

Singletracker
April 20, 2013, 05:42 PM
Wally World is still bare shelves except for 20ga and larger hunting calibers out here on the west side of Denver. Stopped at two LGS, one is a big time gouge fest (Mosin's for $400 anyone?:what:) $44 for 50rnd .40 or $40 for 20rnd, packs of personal defense one box $77 for 100 WWB

And probably 25 people in the store.

Went to 5280 Armory which usually has a walls LINED with weapons, best guess probably 1500 at any given time...had around a hundred on hand. The walls were literally bare.

I need .40 for a pistol course next month, might have to think about trading some of my stock piled .22!

jr_roosa
May 7, 2013, 01:42 AM
I stopped by Centennial Gun Store again. Now they have even more stuff. Boxes of Check-Mate 20 round mags in boxes stacked 3 feet high ($27), full shelves of ammo, some pallets of ammo still in the cases. They had thermold, C-Products, and surefire mags by the case, as well as cases of off-brand mags. Also Korean AK mags, FAL mags by the cases. Every rack behind the counter had a rifle in it. Every spot in the case had a pistol.

No Colts yet. No PMags. One M1A National Match.

The ammo restriction is 2 boxes of each item. So, if they have Win and Fed 9mm, you can get 2 boxes of each. They had 45, 9mm, .308 win, 6.8 spc, and a bunch of others. I didn't notice .223 specifically, but I think they had that too.

The prices on everything were pre-panic MSRP, but the ammo seemed expensive to me. I only buy WWB 45ACP from WalMart every few months because it is almost cheaper than buying unfired brass, so I don't really have a good idea of what ammo cost before the panic to compare. The 100 round boxes of WWB 45ACP were still $63, but they had a ton. I suspect they always charged that, since they have an in-store range, but I never even considered buying ammo there, so who knows.

Too bad they don't cater to reloaders. I would give a pinky finger for some Match Kings. I looked carefully at their .308 win offerings to see if there was anything worth pulling apart for components.

-J.

Cee Zee
May 7, 2013, 01:56 AM
I sw a gun shop that had ammo like that a month ago. They had all sorts of it. I was there last week too and they had even more. Even with people lined up for the door to open in the morning there was still lots of ammo there. Maybe I'm just really, really lucky but I've seen other shops with lots of ammo too. But none of them have had rimfire. I did see a couple of places to buy .22 LR online yesterday at a reasonable price including one place selling SK cheaper than it was before the panic.

I really think the panic is about to break. Congress is checking the buying habits of Homeland Security for one thing. They have tied up a big part of the ammo market by buying billions of rounds. There was that guy who called into a popular radio show saying he worked for an ammo company and that the government was deliberately trying to dry up the ammo supply with contracts with the suppliers. Who knows if that's true but there's some weird reason HS thinks they need a few billion rounds all of a sudden.

Rawss
May 7, 2013, 03:04 AM
any info on what they had for 9mm?

jr_roosa
May 7, 2013, 06:21 AM
any info on what they had for 9mm

Sorry, I wasn't paying close attention. Give them a call. Super nice people.

J.

Queen_of_Thunder
May 7, 2013, 08:18 AM
$63 for WWB 45ACP? Might as well give up shooting at those prices. Its cheaper to shoot 223/556 then 45acp.

r1derbike
May 7, 2013, 03:02 PM
Both close Wally-Worlds here thread bare on ammo.

Grassman
May 7, 2013, 07:52 PM
That looks curiously like Cheaper than Dirt. They are pricing themselves out, and good riddance. CTD is dead to me.

MErl
May 7, 2013, 08:20 PM
hope they sell all those mags in the next 8 weeks. Law wasn't clear about dealers selling to out of state but a private citizen selling out of state would be violating the law. :( (unless they physically went there)

I'm pissed at buying mags for guns I dont own but am thinking about. And having to do so during a panic.

jr_roosa
May 7, 2013, 11:04 PM
I bought several hundred dollars worth of mags for guns I don't yet own.

It sucks but its a fact of life here now.

It limits future options too. 300 blk and 458 socom are more interesting than 6.8 spc because they uses unmodified magazines.

J.

rondog
May 7, 2013, 11:09 PM
Ugh, why'd it have to be Centennial....I hate that place. Well, maybe not "hate", but I went there once and will never go back.

Malamute
May 8, 2013, 01:09 AM
Was in town today, the local shop had a fair supply of ammo for regular prices, tho no 22's this time. Wal mart had some ammo when I was in, Federal 9's were $21 & chng/100 rds, 22's were Win 333 rd box for $14, 100 rd boxes of Federal 223 for $35, and they had some import 45 autos that I didnt catch the price on, and Win 357 mag 110 gr for about $22/50 I believe, but could have been a 100 rd box. Oh, they had some CCI mini-mag 22 hollow points for $7-something per 100 rds. Its been coming in regularly, it just sells quickly. Still had 380's on the shelf as usual.

sixgunner455
May 8, 2013, 01:17 AM
Interesting. Maybe if Colorado didn't have their new laws, they wouldn't be the ones getting stocks of ammo.

AZ still seems to have little on the shelves.

jr_roosa
May 8, 2013, 02:23 AM
AZ still seems to have little on the shelves.

That's what my AZ friends are telling me. I think there are just a lot fewer shooters up here. Denver is much smaller than Phoenix and the demographics of firearms are a lot different here.

I think that there are nowhere near as many sky-is-falling-Obama-is-hiding-all-the-ammo-in-his-basement prepper types up here filling their bunkers with all the ammo they can find, and a lot more suburban dwellers who maybe own a gun, but only shoot it once in a while, and haven't even thought to buy ammo in the last few months because the weather has been a bit too snowy to go to the one outdoor public range in town that everybody goes to.

That's a gross stereotype oversimplification, but I do miss the sheer density of firearms related stuff in Phoenix...lots of really good public and private ranges, lots of matches, all-year-long shooting weather, Cabelas, Bruno's, and a generally firearms friendly culture. There is definitely a solid shooting sports community up here, but it seems a little smaller and a little different than Phoenix. Both are great groups of folks, but they are a little different.

Also, the people who shoot hundreds or thousands of rounds per month for training and competition aren't buying 50 round boxes of Winchester White Box off the shelf at MSRP. That market seems to be more focused on the casual recreational shooter who tends to buy a box or two of ammo each time they go to the range, and that population up here seems way smaller when compared to Phoenix.

Anyway, that's the only way I can explain that the random suburban gun shop down the road from me is flush with ammo, and there isn't any at the much bigger shops and ranges back in Phoenix.

-J.

RetiredUSNChief
May 8, 2013, 02:30 AM
At $67 a hundred its going to stay right there on the shelf. Thats more than I'm willing to pay for WWB.
I agree.

jr_roosa
May 8, 2013, 02:38 AM
At $67 a hundred its going to stay right there on the shelf. Thats more than I'm willing to pay for WWB.

It does make me look a little differently at the boxes of WWB in my ammo cabinet that I bought for $35 last year thinking that $35 was a little steep for ball ammo. I'm a little hesitant to crack one open knowing that it may be a while before I can replace it at a reasonable price.

On the other hand, it's nice to know that in a pinch I could drive down the street and get a box if I really needed it. It's also nice to know that that $60 ammo isn't going anywhere fast.

-J.

RetiredUSNChief
May 8, 2013, 04:48 AM
It does make me look a little differently at the boxes of WWB in my ammo cabinet that I bought for $35 last year thinking that $35 was a little steep for ball ammo. I'm a little hesitant to crack one open knowing that it may be a while before I can replace it at a reasonable price.

On the other hand, it's nice to know that in a pinch I could drive down the street and get a box if I really needed it. It's also nice to know that that $60 ammo isn't going anywhere fast.

-J.

I second you on that!

Most of my WWB was bought several years ago, when .45 was going for $19.95 and 9mm was $9.99 at Walmart.

:):)

sixgunner455
May 8, 2013, 01:00 PM
Wish the 9mm was still going for that at WM. I used up all of it I ever got. :( Used to buy it every payday, but I wasn't reloading 9mm since it was so cheap, it just wasn't worth the time. Got buckets of brass from those days, and I'm reloading it now, but I would rather just buy some bulk boxes and go shooting.

Powder burn
May 8, 2013, 11:24 PM
I ordered 1000 puled bullets and 500 reconditioned .308 cases in early Jan and I was notified that they shipped today. I'm ready, got primers and 8lbs of Varget. Surely things are looking up. I also got some Norma .308 for $18.99 a box. Cabelas had the Norma .308 and .223 rounds for a little bit more money.

yzguy87
May 9, 2013, 12:00 AM
The 22lr supply is still on gunbroker because fools are still willing to pay .10+ in some cases per round. When people stop paying gouging prices ammo grabbers won't be buying all they can to resell to others at 3-4x's their cost. A man I personally know stalks Walmart in the mornings to get the latest supply. He offered to sell me 550 for $60. I declined and told him I would pay his cost for a box. He declined. When supply comes back and he can no longer rip people off and offers his ammo at "at cost" prices I'll still decline because people like him take gross advantage of most who weren't able to find ammo because of people like him.

hang fire
May 9, 2013, 01:45 AM
Here in the Tri-state area of AZ along the Colorado River, there is hardly anything to be found.

It is a shame, after all these years in business, LGS R-Guns in Lake Havasu City will be closing their doors. And the reason is self evident, no ammo or reloading supplies, and except for some milsurps, they have almost next to nothing to sell.

Fishslayer
May 10, 2013, 01:45 AM
A local store has had exactly zero .22LR for the past 3 ammo days I've gone there early to wait.

Earlier this week I was in there for something else & the manager asked if I was going to show up. Said they were getting 15 bulk packs in.

I started a new job that very day....:banghead:

Deltaboy
May 10, 2013, 08:50 AM
My LGS are still half empty when it comes to S no.

btg3
May 10, 2013, 09:36 AM
CTD and many LGS are pursuing a short-term pricing strategy that will bite them in the end. If this is the only way they can survive for the moment, so be it, but the outlook for them is not good. The big box stores have non-gun revenue streams that allow them more flexibility now and understandably will maintain a larger market share ahead.

MAKster
May 10, 2013, 08:58 PM
Let me guess, 5 minutes after you took that photo two guys came in and cleaned out all the shelves. LOL

RetiredUSNChief
May 11, 2013, 08:14 AM
You guys are gonna hate me...

Last week I picked up four 525 round boxes of Remington High Velocity 36gr ammunition for $22 a box at Dick's Sporting Goods. (Went to more than one store.)

Yesterday, I went to Dick's for something else and stopped by the gun counter...they had one remaining box of Remington Thunderbolt (40gr, 500 count) for $22.

Given my wife is practicing for a rifle competition among the Boy Scout leaders, I was happy to pick all this up. Especially since it also meant I could get in some decent target shooting as well...and get our three kids to the range, too.

Things are picking up, guys. Hang in there!

ID-shooting
May 11, 2013, 09:28 AM
Stopped by top LGS in the area yesterday for scope rings. Browsed ammo. Shy on .223 but all others were there. He even offered a 100 rd ration of CCI mini-mags. We talked about pricing and he told me he was paying full MSRP from the distributer.

lot21
May 11, 2013, 09:50 AM
Will I ever buy ammo again? Even 17 HMR is gone in west central Ohio.

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