.38 Green Dot load help needed


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kgpcr
April 20, 2013, 01:03 PM
I have a 4lb jug of Green Dot and would like to chew through it with my .38. I am looking for some load data for a .38 or .38+P with a hard cast 148 grn DE wadcutter bullet. Do any of you have an older load book that may show loads for this combo? Thanks!

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zxcvbob
April 20, 2013, 01:07 PM
http://www.castpics.net/LoadData/Freebies/RM/Alliant.html

Green Dot is very close to Titegroup, except it's medium-large flakes. Titegroup measures better, and in my opinion Green Dot does everything else better. GD will work very well in .38

ETA: For wadcutters, you probably want 2.5 to 3.0 grains. 3.0 is pushing it, and your accuracy load will be lower.

rcmodel
April 20, 2013, 01:19 PM
Green Dot is not especially well suited for +P loads.

However the 2002 Alliant powder guide lists it with:
148 LWC = 2.9 MAX = 800 FPS.
158 LSWC = 3.5 MAX = 870 FPS.

158 LSWC +P = 3.7 MAX = 910 FPS.

rc

oldcelt
April 20, 2013, 01:20 PM
Lyman cast bullet handbook .38 spl 148 wc green dot 2.8 to 3.8 grs.

kgpcr
April 20, 2013, 01:35 PM
Thanks to all! zxcvbob thanks for the link! I downloaded a few of those manuals. I used to use a lot of GD back years ago and like it. Now with my kids grown and gone when they come home they want to shoot so its time to load up a bunch of ammo. Both my son and daughter still shoot a lot and I have a ton of .38 brass and hard cast bullets so I might just as well fill them up and go empty them. I got the jug of GD still left over from my shotgun shooting days.

colonelhogan44
April 20, 2013, 04:28 PM
I like to load 357 shells with 4.5 grains of Green Dot under a 120 grain TC cast bullet.

It's somewhere between 357 mag and 38 special. The pressure is a little higher, so it burns really cleanly.

Steve C
April 21, 2013, 05:49 AM
Data from Speer No 9 shows Green Dot with their 148gr BBWC. You can use this data with any solid base wad cutter bullet in the .38 spl.
You can go down to 3.0grs if you want something thats about 700 fps in velocity.

Sport45
April 21, 2013, 06:54 AM
I have a 4lb jug of Green Dot and would like to chew through it with my .38.

That's going to take a lot of chewing. :)

And about 200 lbs of lead.

Salmoneye
April 21, 2013, 09:48 AM
Here is the 2004 Alliant Manual:

http://glarp.atk.com/2004/2004Catalogs/2004AlliantPowderSM.pdf

.38SPCL is on page 42

Jesse Heywood
April 21, 2013, 03:27 PM
Hardcast might not be the best for these loads. It works better in high pressure, high velocity situations. But you don't know for certain until you try it.

My only loads for the 148 WC with Green Dot have been 2.7 gr, mild recoil good accuracy and 3.0 gr, moderate recoil and fair accuracy.

bds
April 21, 2013, 03:31 PM
Here is the 2004 Alliant Manual:

http://glarp.atk.com/2004/2004Catalo...ntPowderSM.pdf

.38SPCL is on page 42
ATK/Alliant finally decided to pull the 2004 Alliant load data off the internet servers (eventually, all the powder manufacturers do that and post only the current load data) and that link is no longer valid.

Here's a working archive pdf link on THR server - http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=182147&d=1364769070

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