Wilderness Safepacker


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IdahoSkies
April 20, 2013, 12:37 PM
Any one have experience with the Wilderness Safepacker? If so, how did you like it? What didn't you like?

http://www.thewilderness.com/?p=catalog&parent=171&pg=1

Thanks.

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TimboKhan
April 20, 2013, 12:51 PM
I am curious about some user reviews too, now that I look at the product. I can envision a number of situations where this would be a great option, though the main two are car carry and trail carry.

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RX-178
April 20, 2013, 09:30 PM
My dad has one of those for his Springfield Champion Operator. I've borrowed it a few times, and it's a darned good piece of gear.

For a while it was only available in 'tactical' colors, which was my major complaint (despite my typically wearing a belt full of 'tactical color' wallets and cell phone holders), but nowadays with the popularity of tablets and IPads and netbooks and whatnot, I don't feel conspicuous wearing it as an OWB holster without a covering garment.

X-Rap
April 21, 2013, 10:03 AM
I have never used one but at a glance it screams gun far worse than any fanny pack but I never hear that about the safepackers.

IdahoSkies
April 22, 2013, 12:44 PM
Well, I ordered one. I guess I will post a review and let folks know how it works out for a trail holster.

MQP
May 16, 2013, 12:07 PM
Friends,
I carry a Glock 21 and extra magazine in a Safepacker rather than a conventional holster.
The holster provides all the protection of a flap holster and none of the recognition of "open carry."
I have never been asked "What's that?"
It is as functional as the pocket holster for my Ruger LCR I use when not carrying the 21.
MQP

788Ham
May 16, 2013, 12:17 PM
Here in Colorado, you're still allowed to carry a revolver/pistol in an holster on ones self, if your hunting, hiking or fishing. Why try to hide the fact you're carrying? Here its not against the law, now packing openly in downtown Denver will still get you hauled in, but in the mtns, no.

cfullgraf
May 16, 2013, 01:59 PM
I have a couple Safepackers, the two smallest ones. I rarely carry on my person but like the Safepacker for carrying in the side pocket of the car door. It keeps the gun protected and out of sight and I do not think it screams "gun" unless you are familiar with the Safepacker. I do not feel I ahve to hide the Safepacker when transporting the gun from the car to another location and I could hang it on my belt if needed.

The larger versions made for full sized autos, etc, I am not so sure about. They could be pretty large and cumbersome to carry around. But, I have not fondled one either so I cannot pass an educated judgement.

Old_Gun_Hand
May 16, 2013, 02:14 PM
I have two of these and have been using them for a long time. Here is how I use them:

1. While driving I attached it to my seat belt per their video and it is perfectly legal for ccw permit holders here in Florida. Puts the gun right where I need it and I can also store my phone in the flap plus the extra mag inside. When I exit the car during a long trip I attach a should strap to it and use the restroom or enter a place to eat.

2. For hotel/motel/home defense you simply open the flap and insert it between your mattress and box spring for a great mattress holster. I put my gun in it along with a spare mag, flashlight and knife. In an emergency I can just grab the whole bag and am armed with a gun, spare mag, light and knife to investigate those bumps in the night.

3. Same as above but I put the fully equipped bag in the night table draw. By folding the flap under the case, I have quick access to the gun with the trigger protected and can also just grab the whole case to carry with me if need be.

4. Great for carrying that full sized gun in dangerous areas along with one or more spare mags. Just attach a shoulder strap or put it on your belt. They also sell a fanny pack attachment. Great for walking to your car late at night in an empty parking lot. Just carry your bag in your hand, per their video, and you have instant access to your gun and can use it without dropping the bag. Once again see their video.

5. Hiking or camping. Its Velcro fastener can be used to attach this back to your backpack or other gear. Can be worn on your belt or on shoulder. This bag was originally designed to keep your gun handy and safe in rugged terrain.

Also note that you can buy spacers, or make your own as I do, so that one bag can fit a range of gun sizes. I find that two bags fit most of my guns. A very versatile bag and one of many bags that I own but these are the only ones that get a lot of use.

Mainsail
May 16, 2013, 02:36 PM
I've looked at them and that Hill People front bag, and passed.

A Bianchi M12 military holster can ride easily on my pack belt and does a great job of protecting the gun. Open carry is legal here and I see no advantage to carrying concealed, and several disadvantages.

444
May 16, 2013, 04:43 PM
I have a safepacker that I have used for years.

I never used it as a holster or anything. I saw it more as a gun case with extras. I did things with it like, sticking it between the seats on the car with the flap open so I could immediately grab the gun. I used it on vacations where I used it as a traditional gun case for holding the gun in my suitcase. I have stuck it in between the mattress/boxsprings. That type of thing.

If I didn't have it, I don't know if I would make it a point to get another one, but it is a quality piece of equipment that has it's uses and since I do own one, I do use it.

kBob
May 18, 2013, 12:34 PM
This screams gun as loudly as any fanny pack....... Such belt carriers have been around at least 20 years though the materials have changed.

Now I personally don't think fanny packs scream gun to MOST folks and even many cops and bad folks either.

Everyone has to put down something......for a while a photographers vest was referred to as a Shoot Me First Vest because "everyone knows a photographers vest without cameras is just a concealed carry device"

I recently saw someone wearing some of the nice "Tactical Pants" by a popular seller of such and my first inclination was to wonder which pocket was being used for carry......does this mean pants "scream gun"

FOr a while during the hottest monts when out in shorts and tee shirt I used to carry in a small pouch folks assumed was for a pack of cigerettes or a small day planner. It had a slit pocket in the front, a small zippered pocket behind that and a zipper around the main portion of the pouch. I was able to carry cash, ID, credit cards and a small flat lock blade in those front to pockets and a mouse gun into the main pouch. It normally carried a Beretta M-21A a spare mag and a few loose rounds, though on occasion it carried a .38 Special double derringer with a reload or ( I am ashamed to admit) a Davis .380 ( carried with loaded mag and empty chamber) Closest I ever came to being "made" was when someone wanted a light and was sure I was a smoker because he was sure the little pouch held cigarettes and got rather hot about me not giving him a light. I started carrying a match book in the forward pouch as a result but never got asked for a light again. Wore it around all kinds of folks including police.

I think the biggest problem with all such pouches is that people "Barney Fife" them. That is through body language the telegraph that they have a weapon in the pouch. Constantly checking, hand hovering like Barney's over his holstered Model 10, that sort of thing.

I had a fanny pack in Blue nylon for a bit I carried a full sized service pistol in, usually a 1911A1 style. 45 ACP and two spare mags, a mini mag light, some first aid supplies and a Swiss Army Knife a pile of stuff. By having it not black or tacticool it drew less attention. I further made it less threatening by sewing n a red cross patch (I think it might have been an old BSA merit badge) and the UF Fight'n Gator patch Blue is also one of the school colors and folks assumed I was some sort of EMT or nurse with the University Health center or some such med professional.

For a bit I carried a huge yellow fanny pack belt pouch that was large enough for baby changing stuff......I had kids that needed such at the time and the front sections were stuffed with such and the back with a service pistol and that really drew zip from all those folks that are sure a fanny pack screams gun.

For a bit I carried a Coronado Leather fanny pack in Black. There were a few times I caught folks studying the pouch trying to decide. When this happened I would open the big non-gun compartment and pull out something like my pocket day timer or wallet briefly to study and then put back. They then seemed to loose interest in the fanny pack.

Just be careful however you plan to carry, be sure you do not loose the gun somewhere and be certain that however you carry the gun is in a safe condition and will stay that way until you want it to shoot with.

I would consider all the colors of the featured product somewhat tacticool as Black and Cayote Brown are colors frequently used for such. Also the buckles look like military gear. Of course military gear can be fashionable or even ignored by many folks. I had a friend that actually carried a BHP like "Serpaco" (a movie drug cop of the 1970's?) in a gas mask carrier for a couple of years and folks just thought the thing was being used as a book bag....and it was that, too.

-kBob

Yo Mama
May 18, 2013, 03:08 PM
I don't have one, but my input is that the company is amazing. I have a belt from them. They are local in Phoenix to me. I have had the same belt and wore it every day for 8 years. I have had them re-velcro it 2 times for 10 bucks each time.

I'm beyond pleased with the business, and love their stuff.

Dr.Rob
May 20, 2013, 03:30 AM
1. NOT a fast 'presentation'

2. ABSOLUTELY a concealed holster if it is on your belt. Arguably a 'case/rug' if it is not.

3. Doesn't look like a holster, won't scare off backpackers who don't know what it is.

4. Kind of large for a holster.

5. Takes some getting used to to find the right way for YOU to carry it on your belt/bellyband/etc.

Manny
May 20, 2013, 07:21 AM
Thanks for posting, looks like a very useful piece of gear that doesn't scream gun and might be a good fit for my needs. I'll be interested to read your review.

IdahoSkies
May 24, 2013, 01:48 PM
I received the Safepacker. It really is pretty much as advertised and demonstrated on the company's web site. It does say tacticool, though on the shoulder strap its not so bad. Definitely on the belt though. I have a few hikes and a camping trip coming up in the next couple of months, which is what I bought it for. I will post a thorough review with pictures after my trips.

Mark13
May 24, 2013, 03:23 PM
Sounds like a great option for those truly out in the wilderness.

I am always wary of using anything like this in public that is a known, commercially available firearms concealment product.

xxjumbojimboxx
May 24, 2013, 03:40 PM
I like the function and it's discreet look, but is it really worth a c note? I feel like you could get the same product for 40-50 dollars, well made.

22-rimfire
May 24, 2013, 05:26 PM
The biggest advantage I see for hiking is that the gun is pretty quickly available like open carry on a belt holster but concealed and protected from scrapes, dirt, rain and so forth on your belt. I doubt that many would connect the unit to being a holster unless they are knowledgeable about guns.

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