Paper patching boolits


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Catpop
April 20, 2013, 02:17 PM
How do you attach a paper patch to a boolit? That part doesn't seem to show up in the lit. I've read. Also does it need tp be lubed after installation? Thanks, catpop

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highlander 5
April 20, 2013, 02:30 PM
I'm not a traditional BP shooter but the methods I've heard of are with saliva or a mixture of egg whites and water and somewhere in the back of my mind a glue stick can be used as well.

Jaymo
April 20, 2013, 03:00 PM
Hock a loogie on it.
Just kidding.

Cosmoline
April 20, 2013, 03:24 PM
It's not easy to do right. Thankfully over the past few decades some dedicated BPCR fanatics have reinvented this lost art.

I'd suggest "The Paper Jacket" as a good resource:

http://www.amazon.com/Paper-Jacket-Paul-Matthews/dp/1879356023

And the folks on the castboolit forums are always glad to lend a hand. When you get it done right these things can outshoot almost all modern rifles, and hit game like a freight train.

Rojelio
April 20, 2013, 05:37 PM
Yes, "The Paper Jacket" is a good source of information. I just use plain water to dampen the patch. When it dries, it's a shrink fit.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb280/rojelio0/IMAG0193_zpsccc6c685.jpg (http://s205.photobucket.com/user/rojelio0/media/IMAG0193_zpsccc6c685.jpg.html)

StrawHat
April 21, 2013, 07:03 AM
You can dampen the paper, roll it on the bullet and allow it to dry. Or, you can wrap the patch on dry and twist the tail to keep it in place. Some fellows lube it after it is in place and dry, others don't. Your rifle will let you know what it likes.

The only thing you don't want to do is glue it to the bullet. You want that patch to be shredded iby the rifling and detach from the bullet as it leaves the muzzle. If it stays on, accuracy will be difficult to achieve.

BlackNet
April 21, 2013, 01:12 PM
Superglue FTW!

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/483856_4718427080525_1256670807_n.jpg

Cosmoline
April 21, 2013, 01:17 PM
Is that nitrated paper or are you clipping the ends off?

redneck2
April 21, 2013, 01:34 PM
Those patched bullets are WAY cool. I've got a Browning Creedmore BPCR in .45-90. Man, I'd love to make some up.

At one time I had the correct paper. High cotton or linen content (forget which). Had to get it at an office supply store. Kinda pricey, but one box would last forever. Mr Google helps a lot. BPCR website had all you needed to know.

Part of me says I should use FFg, but I just can't bring myself to live with the idea of possible corrosion on any part that I didn't get clean down inside the action.

BlackNet
April 21, 2013, 02:21 PM
Is that nitrated paper or are you clipping the ends off?

D) All of the above. Twist the ends, snip, drop of glue to hold it closed and a drop on the base of the bullet to hold it there.

Another option is just twist the ends, problem is there will be a tail
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/531669_4603205320053_777560369_n.jpg

20 gauge felt wads 1 1/4oz #6 shot and over shot patch.
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/543845_4704970584121_2037795691_n.jpg

You can even do the same thing with round balls.
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/375909_4785516957730_488510178_n.jpg

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/165403_4785516797726_658261923_n.jpg

This is cigarette paper.

Cosmoline
April 21, 2013, 03:32 PM
I've got to start doing that to speed up range time on the cap and balls.

Though of course it's not the same as paper *patching*, which uses high cotton paper as a surface to take the rifling on a large soft lead slug.

dogrunner
April 21, 2013, 04:27 PM
Get a copy of Paul Matthews' book " The Paper Jacket".........Wolf Press has it and it'll answer any and all your questions on the subject.

I have driven a .30/06 at normal jacketed bullet velocity with excellent accuracy using Lyman's 311041 173 patched with computer paper. I have also experimented with similar loadings in .338 W/M in my Browning auto loader.

It ain't just for BP cartridge guns!

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By the way, you don't need nitrated paper for bullet patches......the paper is the only part of the bullet that rides the lands.......very similar to a cloth patch on a round ball.......the advantage is that you do not have to lube the bullet............tho some do..........and that patch enables you to cast an undersized bullet thru the bore with no leading and only powder fouling to deal with. Bullets are rolled using a wetted parallelogram paper, usually twisted on the base and allowed to dry, you can either snip the tail from the twist or ignore it.. One can also use an old fashioned cigarette rolling machine to patch the projectile.

It REALLY does work!

BHP FAN
April 21, 2013, 08:55 PM
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/forumdisplay.php?38-Black-Powder-Paper-Patching

Don McDowell
April 23, 2013, 02:18 PM
You simply roll the patches on very tight and fold/twist the tail under the base. To get the best in accuracy you really don't want the patch to stick to the bullet.
I believe that Brent Danielson and a couple of others have some decent videos on youtube showing how to roll a patched bullet.

StrawHat
April 23, 2013, 03:32 PM
You simply roll the patches on very tight and fold/twist the tail under the base. To get the best in accuracy you really don't want the patch to stick to the bullet.
I believe that Brent Danielson and a couple of others have some decent videos on youtube showing how to roll a patched bullet.
Welcome aboard Don, glad you could swing by. Looking forward to reading more of your wisdom.

Don McDowell
April 23, 2013, 03:41 PM
Thanks Strawhat. Just happened to blunder into this place on a google search this morning..

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