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beefyz
April 22, 2013, 11:00 PM
Don't shoot ! i'm only the piano player. got this from a buddy today. could answer alot of recent questions.




Subject: Status Report


Way to go Obama





Status Report from Valley Guns in West Virginia
Attention F.B. fans: to follow will be several IMPORTANT Info updates about the status of the gun industry currently, followed by an INVENTORY UPDATE: We traveled to
Texas for Industry meetings concerning the shortages, here's what we were told.
Smith & Wesson-is running at Full capacity making 300+ guns/day-mainly M&P pistols. They are unable to produce any more guns to help with the shortages.
RUGER: Plans to increase from 75% to 100% in the next 90 days.
FNH: Moving from 50% production to 75% by Feb 1st and 100% by March 1.
Remington-Maxed out!
Armalite: Maxed out.
DPMS: Can't get enough parts to produce any more product.
COLT: Production runs increasing weekly...bottle necked by Bolt carrier's.
LWRC:Making only black guns, running at full capacity... can't get enough gun quality steel to make barrels.
Springfield Armory: Only company who can meet demand but are running 30-45 days behind.
AMMO: Every caliber is now Allocated! We are looking at a nationwide shortage of allcalibers over the next 9 months. All plants are producing as much ammo as possible w/ of
1 BILLION rounds produced weekly. Most is military followed by L.E. and civilians arethird in line.
MAGPUL is behind 1 MILLION mags, do not expect any large quantities of magpul anytime soon.
RELOADERS... ALL Remington, Winchester, CCI & Federal primers are going to ammoFIRST. There are no extra's for reloading purposes... it could be 6-9 months before things
get caught up.
Sorry for the bleak news, but now we know what to expect in the coming months. Stay tuned,we'll keep you posted...
Related commentary from Bob Owens:
They didn’t know when they’d be getting anything back in stock, from magazines to rifles to pistols. Manufacturers were running full-bore, but couldn’t come close to keeping up with market demand. It wasn’t just the AR-15s, the AK-pattern rifles, the M1As, and the FALs that were sold out. It really hit me when I realized that the World War-era M1 Garands, M1 carbines, and Enfield .303s were gone, along with every last shell. Ubiquitous Mosin-Nagants — of which every gun store always seems to have 10-20—were gone. So was their ammo. Only a dust free space marked their passing. I’ve never seen anything like it.
Every weapon of military utility designed within the past 100+ years was gone. This isn’t a society stocking up on certain guns because they fear they may be banned.
This is a society preparing for war.


Barack Obama, Dianne Feinstein and the rest of the statists have done more to promote gun ownership than the NRA ever did. Well done, Democrats!

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bluekouki86
April 22, 2013, 11:08 PM
Meh...whatever. That only affects the people who waited too long to get in the game. I've been awake to this for some time and have built up resources as needed. I think quite a few people like myself are sitting pretty and just watching the show.

BullfrogKen
April 22, 2013, 11:10 PM
I do believe I've seen this exact report like two months ago? ? ?

monotonous_iterancy
April 22, 2013, 11:20 PM
The thing about mil-surps rings true for me. I've seen mausers and mosins that were on the shelf for years that are gone. I went to buy an unissued M-44 mosin I'd been putting off for a long time, I didn't think anyone would buy it. Someone did.

I thought bolt actions were safe during the panic. I guess I was wrong, but still I wonder, who's buying them?

Yo Mama
April 22, 2013, 11:21 PM
Meh...whatever. That only affects the people who waited too long to get in the game. I've been awake to this for some time and have built up resources as needed. I think quite a few people like myself are sitting pretty and just watching the show.

Nope, it affects everyone. Want to shoot? How are you going to replace what you shoot? How about your kids (if you have them). How are you going to introduce new shooters? Can't if you can't replace your stock. It's not a nice thing to take the position that you're better off just sitting on your stash.

Shooting is an art. It requires practice. You can't practice without fresh supply that's available.

Blackstone
April 23, 2013, 08:59 AM
Some people also lacked the cash to stock up in advance I imagine.

wgaynor
April 23, 2013, 09:33 AM
Seems like an old report. I'm finding more AR's at reasonable prices, powder, primers, projectiles, and ammo (even .22lr's) available around here. Granted, it's not at the levels seen a year ago, but it's better than it was 2 months ago.

baz
April 23, 2013, 09:37 AM
I do believe I've seen this exact report like two months ago? ? ?This report first surfaced in late January.

A more recent update: http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-ammo-shortage-continues/?print=1

JFtheGR8
April 23, 2013, 12:41 PM
The date that was posted according to the linked source above was May 15, 2010. Was there a shortage in 2010?


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Ryanxia
April 23, 2013, 01:40 PM
I read an article by Mac Slavo dated February 14, 2013 titled, "Guns And Ammo Production Maxed Out: 'This is a Society Preparing For War' "

I took a picture of the headline on my phone because I liked the title so I just pulled it up to see when it was written. Sounded similar but I don't remember the 1 billion rounds a week portion so it may not be the same thing.

r1derbike
April 23, 2013, 01:50 PM
My wife looked at an S&W .38 sp. bodyguard about 6 mo. or so ago, we rented one at a range, she loved it, and recently she was ready to buy. None, zero anywhere.

I've been wanting a Mosin for years and years. Waited too long. Have seen some popup here and there, but not at fair prices.

It's pretty bad when I'm hangin' onto the range ammo, and only going once a month, if that to practice. I hope the LGSs may stay in business; cupboards are bare.

Jim, West PA
April 23, 2013, 02:22 PM
This is exactly the thing that causes panic buying.
This 3 year old outdated and untrue 'report' should be deleted.

Ryanxia
April 23, 2013, 03:08 PM
This is exactly the thing that causes panic buying.
This 3 year old outdated and untrue 'report' should be deleted.
It's not 3 years old. At worst it is from an article 2 months ago.

AlexanderA
April 23, 2013, 03:27 PM
From what I saw at the last couple of gun shows I went to, the secondary market (used and collectible guns) is definitely loosening up. Ammunition, reloading components, and (certain) new guns seem to be the bottlenecks.

Gun shows seem to be leading the way on this. Local gun shops and the Internet auction sites seem to be slow to adjust to the new, post-panic market.

BullfrogKen
April 23, 2013, 07:15 PM
I thought I had seen this a couple months ago.


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