Where To Find Powder & Caps


April 23, 2013, 02:18 PM
So far all I've shot has been Pyrodex P and RS, which I'm unhappy with, and Triple 7, which I'm fond of. But I'm interested in trying Olde Eynsford or Swiss, which I cannot find locally. I only want 1 lb to try, but would like 2 lbs of Triple 7 to make the hazmat worthwhile.

I've also found that my Track of The Wolf nipples for my Old Army, which are designed for CCI #11's don't work well with CCI #11 mags or Rem #11's, but work very well with Rem #10's. But I can't find them.

Graf's looks like the place I need, but only stock CCI caps, and I haven't tried their #10's yet. I'm a little leery of purchasing 10 tins of them without knowing if they'll work well. But they are out of caps anyway.

So where can I find a place that sells Rem #10's and powder in small lots at a reasonable price?

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April 23, 2013, 02:30 PM
Powder, Inc. sells lots as small as 5 lbs, you can mix and match the different powders, so you could get 2 lbs of Triple 7, a pound of Swiss, a pound of Olde Eynsford, and another pound of whatever.

April 23, 2013, 02:38 PM
Do they sell Triple 7? All I see is BP.
And they, too, only sell CCI caps, and it appears they may be out as you have to call and ask. I'd be more than happy with CCI's if I knew they worked.

April 23, 2013, 06:03 PM
If CCI No. 11's worked, CCI No. 10's probably won't. They're quite a bit smaller and will probably result in reliability problems.

April 23, 2013, 06:32 PM
CCI #11 magnums did not work. The fit was tight and good, but it often took 2 strikes to set them off. I'm guessing there must be a size difference between CCI #11 and #11 mags as the nipples were designed for them, which is why I bought them. It was Rem #10's that have worked.

I'm not sure what the differences really are as the charts I've seen suggest that the Rem #10 and CCI #11 are quite similar except for length. I haven't seen anything labeled CCI #11 magnum though...

April 23, 2013, 06:43 PM
If you are going up to Oklahoma City, H&H gun range has Swiss and Goex.

April 23, 2013, 07:11 PM
CCI #11 and #11 magnum appear to be the same size, the magnum just has more power to light substitutes. You might as well always get the magnums as far as I can tell... until you just said that they're harder to set off. I've never seen that but it's worth knowing, thanks. I've never needed the extra power in a cap and ball revolver since those have relatively direct ignition - it's more of a rifle-with-a-drum thing.

The Remingtons are basically the same width as the CCI #11s, just the length varies. I tend to use them interchangeably frankly. The Remingtons are definitely softer and easier to set off than any of the CCIs. I had a 1851 with a marginal spring that would set off Remington and not CCI.

CCI #10s are kind of useless for the most part... unless you're running factory cap and ball nipples which can run pretty small. but all the quality aftermarket nipples seem to be based on #11. So I bought a ton of #10s initially and then ended up hardly using them once I started changing out nipples. Whoops.

I've ordered caps from Dixie recently with success (and hazmat!) but if I'm near a BassPro they usually have at least some Remingtons at a decent price so I'm *trying* to slowly stock up that way to avoid paying hazmat. Unfortunately it's not very close so I don't make it out that way very often.

April 23, 2013, 07:22 PM
Mail order Sources of the holy black (black powder)

Powder inc (https://www.powderinc.com/)

Main powder house (http://mainepowderhouse.com/)

Jacks powder keg (http://www.jackspowderkeg.com/)

Dixie gunworks (http://www.dixiegunworks.com/)

Track of the wolf (http://www.trackofthewolf.com/)

Graff and Sons (http://www.grafs.com/)

Back Creek Gun Shop (www.blackpowderva.com)

Premium powder and pyro (http://www.premiumpowderandpyro.com)

Crater Fireworks (http://www.addictedtoblackpowder.com)

Some you can get in under 5 pound lots, others require a 25 pound min. Also local gunshops, pawn shops, ranges, some events, gun shows and the like often will have black powder.

Another source is to find a local muzzle loading club, call them up and ask about joining, bring what you have and there typically is several types of powder that members will have. I am always handing out powder for people to try.

:Also Worth noting on powder:
Schuetzen: made by Wano Schwarzpulver GmbH in Germany, imported by Schuetzen powder of Texas.

Swiss: Made by Poudrerie D'Aubonne in Switzerland, imported by Schuetzen powder of Texas.

Goex is owned by Hodgdon, made in Louisiana, US

Kik is imported by Western powder co in Montana.

Diamondback is made by Elephant in Brazil.

You can also get them at the above list plus other places like Midway USA (http://www.midwayusa.com/)

In dire times of political distress, i.e. today, caps can be hard to find and it never hurts to order lots of 1,000. It is also worth noting that many will say get the #11 magnum over the regular #11's. There is a hazmat shipping fee so make it worth while and order bulk.

You can often times change nipples cheaper than you can locate caps so it is well worth finding *SEVERAL* good set of nipples.

April 23, 2013, 07:37 PM
Although they are rather high on most items, Gander Mountain carries Remington primers and I bought 10 packs of #10 primers from them about two months ago. They fit the original Ruger Old Army nipples and the ones I got from TOW. They were out of the 10s the first time I stopped by but had #11s. When I went back they had #10s but were out of the #11s. It's pot luck.
If you can get together with several other people and buy 25 lbs. of powder total, the price is reduced plus you only have one hazmat fee. It's perfectly legal.

April 23, 2013, 09:06 PM
"You can often times change nipples cheaper than you can locate caps so it is well worth finding *SEVERAL* good set of nipples."

This is actually something I was pondering...

I wish I knew people who were interested in BP arms. Most people see it as a hassle and not much of a cost savings. Kinda like brewing your own beer.

April 23, 2013, 09:44 PM
Goex is made in the US by Goex.

Goex is owned and made by Hodgdon.

April 23, 2013, 10:00 PM
Goex is owned and made by Hodgdon.

Corrected! I updated my original post.

April 23, 2013, 11:40 PM
I got Remington caps and some Goex fffg at The Bass Pro on Lake Ray Hubbard. There is also a Bass Pro down in Buda near Austin. You have to ask for the Goex, as it is stored "in a safe, in another safe, in a vault" in the back. I live 'bout an hour and a half from that Bass Pro now, and none of the local places around here carry real BP due to the storage regulations. As little as I have been able to shoot lately, which is none really, that pound will probably last me a while... As far as Swiss or the other, I really don't know. Good luck on your search.

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