Fire mission for European readers


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Mike OTDP
April 23, 2013, 09:39 PM
It looks like the EU is tring to harass firearm owners. The British Shooting Sports Council has info and recommended action, mirrored at http://www.mlagb.com/news/legislation/EUPublicConsultationOnFirearms1304.pdf

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lykoris
April 23, 2013, 11:41 PM
They have no interest in hearing what the people of Europe want and as the EU's executive branch, the EU Commission, will bully all to get their objectives enacted into law. If you vote the wrong way like the French and Dutch people did they bypass the national requirements of referendums. If you vote like the Irish did on the Lisbon treaty(more centralised federal power to EU) and reject their proposals they get you to revote until you vote yes.

The EU Commission are unelected by the people of Europe and completely disinterested in anything except their push for more centralised federal power. Essentially the same construct as the Soviet politburo. The EU Parliament, the entity with the least powers, rubber stamps by voting for or against the Commission's proposals....with broadly 2/3rds of all legislation taken in closed door meetings.

The Commission is also lauded with a minimum of 15,000 lobbyists who push special interests....the people of Europe are nothing more than a nuisance that are disdained by those of EU institutions.

The far right is growing again in all major European countries regretably as a result and anti-EU sentiment has never been higher....and I say this having lived a decade in Luxembourg which houses roughly half of all EU Institutions and have numerous friends working in them.

The prospect of armed citizens disgusts them given our violent past, we Europeans have a long and bloody history and obviously they know better:rolleyes:

The UK has nothing to lose given their draconian firearms legislation will no doubt be the template for all the EU as they have already lost everything.

Best to simply leave the EU if you wish to avoid its wrath as a firearms owner.

Blackstone
April 24, 2013, 07:12 AM
It's time we escaped the clutches of that unelected cabal. Search for Nigel Farage on YouTube, he's one of the few politicians to openly speak out against Brussels

Garak
April 24, 2013, 08:07 AM
Because most of the Europe considers firearms as a privilege, not a right, all gun laws are considered a good thing by the majority. Even voicing a different opinion is considered weird in many places, and labels the person as a violent redneck.

YZ
April 24, 2013, 07:43 PM
Because most of the Europe considers firearms as a privilege, not a right, all gun laws are considered a good thing by the majority. Even voicing a different opinion is considered weird in many places, and labels the person as a violent redneck.
Is redneck a label used in Europe?

You are right about gun ownership being a privilege. In fact most freedoms are privileges in a social democracy.

Akita1
April 24, 2013, 07:48 PM
It's time we escaped the clutches of that unelected cabal. Search for Nigel Farage on YouTube, he's one of the few politicians to openly speak out against Brussels
At least you still have your own currency! (sorry mods, I know off topic)

Akita1
April 24, 2013, 07:54 PM
I have hunted in Europe several times. Many of the people I hunted with (all on private land, mostly farms) had "two sets" of firearms: the shotguns that were legal, and the rifles and handguns that were not, necessarily, legal. Many of the "not" were Walthers and Mausers handed down from their parents and/or grandparents who had either been in local WW2 resistance or had been stolen from the Wehrmacht during occupation.

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