Kelly-Gifford at it again


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Grassman
April 26, 2013, 12:27 AM
Leading the charge on this front is Americans for Responsible Solutions (ARS), a pro-gun control organization founded by former Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and her husband Mark Kelly in the wake of the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, CT.


http://www.guns.com/2013/04/25/giffords-kelly-launch-campaign-targeting-sens-who-voted-against-gun-control-audio/

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InkEd
April 26, 2013, 12:33 AM
Is it possible to sue these people for harassment, slander or so
something?

I cannot stand these sore losers! You're made up % of Americans got called out and proven to be b.s. and you even lost in a Democrat controlled system.

Give up and Go away!!! :cuss:

Akita1
April 26, 2013, 12:34 AM
This is bush-league crap. We shouldn't waste server space on this hack (Kelly) given his behavior.

hang fire
April 26, 2013, 03:48 AM
This is bush-league crap. We shouldn't waste server space on this hack (Kelly) given his behavior.
To me, Kelly is downright creepy. For some reason, to put it politely, he strikes me as a procurer selling his injured wife for money.

Manco
April 26, 2013, 03:57 AM
To me, Kelly is downright creepy. For some reason, to put it politely, he strikes me as a procurer selling his injured wife for money.

Either that or he's another idiot like Sarah Brady who is going to spend decades blaming inanimate objects for the actions of crazy individuals. :rolleyes: With astronauts like Kelly and Lisa Nowak, it's probably for the best that NASA can't send people to space themselves. :p

TheSaint
April 26, 2013, 04:00 AM
The media has been stuck to this pair of misguided individuals like velcro for far too long. Seriously, I have yet to see short of Sandy Hook so much coverage for a person that was SHOT and STILL LIVED. What about more coverage for those victims that were wounded or died because they wanted to defend themselves, but couldn't, due to anti-gun legislation? Some of us aren't fortunate enough to have S.S. details all the time...

Walkalong
April 26, 2013, 08:45 AM
Anyone who thought they would quit after being soundly beaten were not paying attention to history. This is an ongoing battle which will continue into our grand children's time, and beyond.

We need to keep up the good work, as these kind of folks never go away. Next time they will be even more prepared.

Yes, they are licking their wounds right now, but they have tasted some victory in Colorado, and will try to build on that.

There will be another day, no doubt.

Pilot
April 26, 2013, 10:23 AM
They both need new careers, and money to run with their elitist pals. Their excellent pension aren't enough for these types. It also gives their egos a boost. They could care less about actually doing anything to reduce human violence, or punish convicted felons.

leapfrog
April 26, 2013, 11:06 AM
Remember when?

BigBore44
April 26, 2013, 11:26 AM
I really do feel bad for Gabby. What she went through was terrible. But why doesn't she understand that she is just a pawn for the liberals? I think she really doesn't understand what she is be portrayed as.

hso
April 26, 2013, 11:37 AM
The campaigns against politicians that voted with our side is NOT bush league crap. It is a serious effort on the part of MAIG/Bloomberg and upstarts like Kelly who are not actively focused on changing the minds of voters district by district/state by state.

WE need a counter campaign the points out that elected officials who listened to ALL their consitutents instead of special interest groups from out of state like MAIG and Bloomberg's cohorts capitalizing on the deaths of little children to advance a 20 year agenda to ban firearms one step at a time. These people were calling for doing away with the rights and traditions of voters across the country long before a madman murdered his mother and slaughtered those little kids. Now like ghouls they're trying to paint the whole country in the blood of those children to twist it into their urban vision.

jerkface11
April 26, 2013, 11:39 AM
She's not a pawn. She was one of them before she was shot. As early as 2001 she called for a ban on ALL semi autos.

hang fire
April 26, 2013, 12:43 PM
The campaigns against politicians that voted with our side is NOT bush league crap. It is a serious effort on the part of MAIG/Bloomberg and upstarts like Kelly who are not actively focused on changing the minds of voters district by district/state by state.

WE need a counter campaign the points out that elected officials who listened to ALL their consitutents instead of special interest groups from out of state like MAIG and Bloomberg's cohorts capitalizing on the deaths of little children to advance a 20 year agenda to ban firearms one step at a time. These people were calling for doing away with the rights and traditions of voters across the country long before a madman murdered his mother and slaughtered those little kids. Now like ghouls they're trying to paint the whole country in the blood of those children to twist it into their urban vision.
The antis work strictly with emotion, never with facts and reason.

IMO, a scenario such as this is needed to counter them.


Every time there is another screaming headline about mass murders, the gun control powers that be, whip the public into a frenzy. What does the pro gun ownership side counter with? Logic and numbers, which in the emotional heat of the moment, goes over like a lead balloon. I have often wondered why the NRA and other pro-gun organizations cannot come up with an emotional (fight fire with fire) fool proof way of their own, to counter the antis at such times?

I would suggest the NRA get with other pro organizations and record each and every incident, as to where firearms are used in self defense. This could be done by mining all public records from newspapers and law enforcement agencies, and presented in their own words only. I would prefer it would be done for over a ten year period, but can be broken down annually,

The “THE ARMED CITIZEN” which the NRA puts out monthly would be an ideal format, short, to the point, with the facts speaking for themselves with no further input needed. I know there are search engines available for such, but they are too expensive for individuals such as I to use. The NRA has the resources to accomplish a printable data base, and as suggested, better yet, get with other pro-Second Amendment organizations where all can work on it together for a common goal.

At hearings and press events, there could be a cart wheeled in containing thousands of pages of irrefutable and verifiable public records, where lawful citizens used firearms in self defense, and that could not be ignored.

Manco
April 26, 2013, 12:50 PM
I really do feel bad for Gabby.

I don't--I feel bad for the people whose Constitutional rights she is vengefully attempting to infringe upon, which would be us and all Americans. She can take her anger and stuff it!

Solo
April 26, 2013, 01:03 PM
Every time there is another screaming headline about mass murders, the gun control powers that be, whip the public into a frenzy. What does the pro gun ownership side counter with? Logic and numbers, which in the emotional heat of the moment, goes over like a lead balloon. I have often wondered why the NRA and other pro-gun organizations cannot come up with an emotional (fight fire with fire) fool proof way of their own, to counter the antis at such times?
Hot air fills a balloon better than cold air, but it soon cools and the balloon collapses.

Solo
April 26, 2013, 01:14 PM
Ok, here's the plan. We all join and initiate a hostile takeover...

Reloadron
April 26, 2013, 03:07 PM
How many of our members remember James Brady? James Scott "Jim" Brady (born August 29, 1940) is a former Assistant to the President and White House Press Secretary under U.S. President Ronald Reagan. Brady was among those shot during John Hinckley, Jr.'s March 30, 1981, assassination attempt on Reagan, suffering a serious head wound. Although Brady survived, the wound left him with slurred speech and partial paralysis that required the full-time use of a wheelchair.

The above taken from the Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Brady) and being a simple matter of history.

James Brady's wife Sarah wasted no time in putting a tragedy to use. While I had compassion for Brady initially that compassion quickly diminished.

Together with his wife, Sarah, who served as Chair of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, formerly known as Handgun Control, Inc., co-founded by N.T. Pete Shields, Brady subsequently lobbied for stricter handgun control and assault weapon restrictions. The Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, also known simply as "the Brady Bill", was named in his honor.

Following the shooting James Brady was a vegetable. He was not capable of thought or coherent speech and Sara his wife became the mouthpiece. James Brady became the new poster child for gun control. He was wheeled around in that wheelchair speechless as his wife spewed her anti gun agenda while making a small fortune. I quickly began to despise everything about those people. I still do.

Now fast forward to Gabrielle Giffords and her husband. The only thing I see here is a gender switch plus Giffords injury was less than Brady's. She seldom speaks but her mouthpiece is her husband Mark. She is the new poster child for the anti-gun lobby. He drags her around holding her hand as they tell us why guns are evil and need banned. Discounting the fact that both James Brady and Gabrielle Giffords were both shot by mentally deranged individuals. Neither has made a plea for better mental health illness control have they?

The only thing I noticed was it took me less time looking at this pathetic Giffords to feel sorry for her than James Brady. How dare those people wanting to usurp not just my rights but the rights of 80 million plus gun owners.

Just My Take and End of Rant......
Ron

Pilot
April 26, 2013, 03:15 PM
Relaodron. I think you are spot on. Sarah Brady and Kelly are two peas in a pod, and this is totally a money maker for them. Never let a tragedy go to waste is their mantra.

Quick Shot xMLx
April 26, 2013, 03:33 PM
She is being used like a puppet. Listen to how she speaks, watch her mannerisms on video. She has no idea what/where she is. They tell her something and she repeats it. Just like a parrot she can talk but she's not saying anything.

Good, they'll let people know who to vote for. (R)_________ senator didn't vote for "common sense gun reforms, background checks that 90% of the public agree with." Real American: "Oh hell yea definitely voting for that guy."

Reloadron
April 26, 2013, 04:15 PM
She is being used like a puppet. Listen to how she speaks, watch her mannerisms on video. She has no idea what/where she is. They tell her something and she repeats it. Just like a parrot she can talk but she's not saying anything.

Good, they'll let people know who to vote for. (R)_________ senator didn't vote for "common sense gun reforms, background checks that 90% of the public agree with." Real American: "Oh hell yea definitely voting for that guy."
Ah yes, the puppets. Something else I see as despicable is when the president of The United States of America feels a need to surround himself with innocent children to drive home his point of Gun Control. How sad can it get. More despicable is the parents of those children who allow them to be used as political pawns.

I am proud to say my children would never allow their children to be used in such a way. May God help anyone who would dare use my grandchildren as a pawn in a political game be it with or against my political beliefs.

Just My Take
Ron

JFrame
April 26, 2013, 04:19 PM
To me, Kelly is downright creepy. For some reason, to put it politely, he strikes me as a procurer selling his injured wife for money.

I agree with that "creepy" description. There is something really weird about that guy.


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2zulu1
April 26, 2013, 05:29 PM
Chicago is the deadliest city in America, El Paso the safest. Juarez, across the international border from El Paso, has one of the highest, if not the highest, murder rates in the world.

Going back to Gifford's, and I wish her the best, needs to own up to the fact that they chose NOT to have a uniformed LEO present at her meet and greet event. She, or members of her staff, made that regrettable decision.

Transfer the blame to guns and one doesn't have to deal with the emotional guilt for not providing adequate security at her public event, IMO.

Shadow 7D
April 26, 2013, 05:40 PM
In less polite places the term used is 'Mark Kelly and his meat puppet'
for good reason, remember the tweet of Gabby Giffords 'comments' before congress
with the rewritten end, by a staffer...

P5 Guy
April 26, 2013, 08:34 PM
You all slid right past Carolyn McCarthy who wouldn't have ever been elected if not for the Long Island Transit shooting. The only difference is she hasn't paraded around her boy.

jhfleet
April 26, 2013, 09:01 PM
Chicago registers at 19 murders per 100,000 (2012). New Orleans is at 57,Detroit at 48, St. Louis 35, Baltimore at 31 . Math class?
You are correct on Ciudad Juarez at 160.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate
As they say, figures don't lie but liars figure. Chicago has the most murders per year of any city in the United States.

KTXdm9
April 26, 2013, 09:12 PM
Let them waste their money now. This ad will be long forgotten by election time.

jfrey
April 26, 2013, 11:18 PM
I would love for Suzanna Hupp to have a little chat with Gabby. She would set her straight really fast.

Like Ron White said "You can't cure stupid".

jhfleet
April 27, 2013, 12:59 AM
And Chicago has almost 3 million.people.. You must go to the number per pop..Even you can figure that out, jhfleet. I think! :D
I got your juvenile private message. I don't appreciate insults but I don't want to respond in kind and sink to your level. Any further such crap will be forwarded to the moderators.

Walkalong
April 27, 2013, 10:10 AM
Well, the wheels fell off of this one.

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