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Queen_of_Thunder
April 26, 2013, 11:34 AM
My local Academy recieved no ammo today. Nothing. Nada.

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SouthernBoy
April 26, 2013, 01:59 PM
Why should they receive shipments when civilians are having such a hard time finding ammo? Who comes first here?

351 WINCHESTER
April 26, 2013, 02:01 PM
Academy sports, not a police academy.

Dr. Sandman
April 26, 2013, 03:00 PM
Police Academy 8: The Search for Ammo
I'll bet Tackleberry has a case of 5.56 in his glove compartment.

Queen_of_Thunder
April 26, 2013, 03:10 PM
No he is out so he is standing in line just in case they get some bulk 223 while he trys to talk me out of what little I have.

FitGunner
April 26, 2013, 05:02 PM
The deliveries at our local Academy stores have been random and very limited lately. They are not getting the usual shipments M/W/F but randomly during the day. It is mostly shotgun, hunting rifle, or oddball handgun ammo.

9mmfan
April 26, 2013, 05:12 PM
Tackleberry's line must be a long one. He passed away 12 years ago.:what::p

Not meaning any disrespect to Mr. Graf or his family.

Wildbillz
April 26, 2013, 06:49 PM
I walked into a shop here in Austin yesterday and they had about 50 or 60 500 round cases of 5.56mm ammo. $250 per 500. 1 case limit. I didn't get one. Very little 9mm and or 357mag. No 40 S&W. This was more ammo then I have seen in months and I have been looking.

WB

Doc Savage
April 27, 2013, 12:09 AM
Must be because the opened a new Academy here and it was full of ammo. However they did have the popular stuff (.223, .308, 9mm, 45) at a separate location with associates limiting it to one box per caliber, 3 box total limit. Did get some tula .223 for $6, my Mini 14 loves the steel stuff.

Queen_of_Thunder
April 27, 2013, 08:06 AM
Just what we need. Another store to cut into what little ammo they get now.

HKGuns
April 27, 2013, 09:17 AM
What are you camped outside the door waiting for the truck to pull up? Sheesh.

crestoncowboy
April 27, 2013, 09:26 AM
I think new store openings do get priorities, I went to gander mtn out side of Charlotte no ammo. Then I was going through Winston Salem, saw a new gander mtn and stopped. It was fully stocked with everything but 22. racks full of ammo and guns, even had black guns. Same ol high prices, but there.

aka108
April 27, 2013, 09:47 AM
Idrove by Academy the other day on my way to breakfast with a bunch of us old retired cooters. Store was about half hour from opening. Big line of people lined up to make a rush for the firerms section. Reminded me of a bunch of vultures waiting for something to die. Reading a local gun forum, Academy only has ammo on a few mornings. Some of those people probably are there every day. I'll be glad when this hoarding crap ceases.

OldMac
April 27, 2013, 12:54 PM
Unfortunately, the folks that are buying everything as the truck is unloading are also the ones selling on armslist at triple prices. The gouging will stop and shipments will actually hit the shelves when folks stop buying from gougers/resellers.

bri
April 27, 2013, 02:45 PM
What are you camped outside the door waiting for the truck to pull up? Sheesh.
Yes. You'd think if you that much spare time, you'd reload.

bri
April 27, 2013, 02:46 PM
Unfortunately, the folks that are buying everything as the truck is unloading are also the ones selling on armslist at triple prices. The gouging will stop and shipments will actually hit the shelves when folks stop buying from gougers/resellers.
Bingo.

Of course, none of these people will acknowledge that fact.

KTXdm9
April 27, 2013, 03:43 PM
Local Academy had Winchester 22lr for the first time in months today. I didn't buy any because I already have plenty.

JRH6856
April 27, 2013, 03:51 PM
Local Academy had Winchester 22lr for the first time in months today. I didn't buy any because I already have plenty.

How unAmerican! You're supposed to buy all you can and then sell it to people who have none at outrageous prices.

Deaf Smith
April 27, 2013, 08:11 PM
Well hopefully Congress and the sequestration will force the DHS to stop hording ammo.

See the ammo companies have a finite supply of brass, bullets, powder, and primers and can only set up their lines to make so much. Right now .40 S&W, 9mm, 7.62, and 5.56 dominate for the military and DHS. Since the military does not use .40 S&W that comes from civilian stocks more than the other three.

So the ammo companies, cranking out as much .40 as possible, have to limit what they make in any other cartridge. Then it is sent to distributors and THEY sell where they may.

Personally I see this as a Obama administration test to see if they can control the supply of ammo. Do that and gun control becomes a fait accompli. Control the ammo, control the guns.

See not only is the DHS buying, but every LEO organization, CIA, NSA, etc.... and that's one heck of alot of ammo. Hence you now see Tulia ammo from Russia showing up on shelves (as well as their primers.) DHS and the cops don't use Tulia, right? And so it shows up!

I feel pressure on Ammo makers and distributors to forgo DHS contracts is one way (just as some gun companies leaving anti-gun states.)

The DHS having a shortage of ammo would be poetic justice.

Deaf

KTXdm9
April 27, 2013, 08:21 PM
How unAmerican! You're supposed to buy all you can and then sell it to people who have none at outrageous prices.
Ha! You got me there. I will say I was tempted the last time I bought a case of 9mm to sell half online to pay for the other half. I decided I'd rather keep it and shoot it myself. ;)

Queen_of_Thunder
April 27, 2013, 09:08 PM
What are you camped outside the door waiting for the truck to pull up? Sheesh.
Yes I and about 30-45 others are waiting in hopes of buying a box of ammo at a decent price. Our other options are $70 for a 50 round box of 9mm at one LGS or just give up on shooting. The other LGS's don't even have a single box of it. The highest price I'll pay for 9mm is 30 cents a round including tax. I've been able to pick it up at Academy when they get it for 28 cents a round including tax. Now if you know where I can pick up 20 cases of 9mm then let me know because that would allow me to finish out the year on my regular shooting schedule. If not don't question my methods to secure the ammo I need to at least finish out the last 3 months of this year.

HKGuns
April 27, 2013, 10:12 PM
The answer is to reload, not camp, although it is probably too late for even that given the availability of primers.

Speedo66
April 27, 2013, 10:25 PM
With several states having passed laws that require an ID check, or worse like my current state, CT, a separate permit to buy ammo if you don't have an existing pistol permit, I'd be buying all I could get my hands on before your state passes such a law.

You can preen all you want about how your state will never blah, blah, blah, but who really knows until it happens?

Ammo doesn't spoil. When it hits the shelves again, I suggest you stock up.

Tommygunn
April 27, 2013, 11:05 PM
I went into my local Academy this afternoon. I was able to pick up one box of .308 due to their supply problems. "One box of a caliber per day," is what our local store is doing -- don't know if others are doing the same or their own ration system.

rodregier
April 28, 2013, 07:53 AM
Bad time to start reloading, given the scarcity of components. I expect that most primer production has been swung into feeding ammunition production versus sale as reloading components.

Queen_of_Thunder
April 28, 2013, 08:58 AM
Yea reloading would be nice but you face the same problems there as you do with factory ammo. Availability and price. I've been picking up items needed to reload over the last year. Thing is how do I replace what I use. Montana Gold is out. I can't find any Zero bullets, primers and powder are hard to come by plus our LGS's don't carry reloading supplies. The stuff at the club is limited and disappears quickly.

The camping out is a pain but it has had its silver linings like the 4 inch 586-5 I picked up from a fellow camper. The new friends and contacts that are already paying off means that camping out does have its benfits to go along with the bad side of waiting 2 hours to get your one box of ammo per caliber with a max of 3 calibers. So you either camp out or do without.

We are going into May and this stuff is still ongoing and shows no sign of getting any better.

Potatohead
April 28, 2013, 09:33 AM
i digress queen...around these parts its getting much better (huntsville alabama)
i guess they want to make sure we rednecks get back stocked up first. lol but seriously gander mtn got in a HUGE amount that was still there late last nite. also my lgs raised his limits AND had some cases for sale yesterday..granted, hes right across the street from gander so that could be the reason...

Potatohead
April 28, 2013, 09:35 AM
If not don't question my methods to secure the ammo I need to at least finish out the last 3 months of this year.

amen brother!

Queen_of_Thunder
April 28, 2013, 09:43 AM
i digress queen...around these parts its getting much better (huntsville alabama)
i guess they want to make sure we rednecks get back stocked up first. lol but seriously gander mtn got in a HUGE amount that was still there late last nite. also my lgs raised his limits AND had some cases for sale yesterday..granted, hes right across the street from gander so that could be the reason...
Road Trip!

Potatohead
April 28, 2013, 09:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OldMac View Post
Unfortunately, the folks that are buying everything as the truck is unloading are also the ones selling on armslist at triple prices. The gouging will stop and shipments will actually hit the shelves when folks stop buying from gougers/resellers.
Bingo.

Of course, none of these people will acknowledge that fact.

no offense intended here but im waiting for the trucks to unload and i havent sold a single round...you ammo snobs really need to give it a rest. its getting old hearing you all groan about "not buying in this market" and" waiting till the prices drop" and "oh my gosh, i wouldnt be caught dead standing in a line"....well guess what? i dont have much ammo, and thats how i have to get it right now so you all can just keep waiting around for the prices to drop, while i wait in line and get some ammo.

Potatohead
April 28, 2013, 09:51 AM
come on down queen, though their may be a little line you might have to stand in, God forbid, but your sure to get some ammo in these parts. still a ton of .40s in there at closing last nite...250 rd box for 109$...even had them out on the shelves, wouldnt all fit behind the counter...guy did say their was a new Academy opening up in town and that may be why they got so much in..fyi, it was delivered thurs morning and still there last nite/today im sure...my dad got 50 rd boxes of 9mm for 14$ (limit was 10!!) but i was to late for those..i got 10 boxes of 20 rd 223s for 11$ and they had 3 or 4 cases left.

i did have to stand in line, (4 people)so i shouldve just marched myself right out of there without getting any thing!!! That wouldve showed them!!!

Potatohead
April 28, 2013, 09:53 AM
Police Academy 8: The Search for Ammo
I'll bet Tackleberry has a case of 5.56 in his glove compartment.

hahahahahahahahahaha

22-rimfire
April 28, 2013, 09:54 AM
I feel for those searching for ammunition. Reminds me of food lines. But you have to eat, most of us don't have to shoot. I am thankful that I have not been hunting for ammuntion since this most recent shortage started.

We have two Academy stores in my area. Haven't paid them a visit. Walmart gets their ammunition around 7:00 AM and there are people waiting to fill their 3-box daily limit.

i dont have much ammo, and thats how i have to get it right now so you all can just keep waiting around for the prices to drop, while i wait in line and get some ammo.

Do you really have to shoot? Choose to shoot tomorrow or next week. What is the big deal? But I know... you want it when you want it.

Deaf Smith
April 28, 2013, 10:14 AM
Went to an estate sale yesterday.

70 rounds of .41 Long Colt for... 8 bucks. Still in the old boxes to.

Now I need to find a .41 LC revolver!

Deaf

Potatohead
April 28, 2013, 10:17 AM
Do you really have to shoot? Choose to shoot tomorrow or next week. What is the big deal?

Fair point...it's become a bit of an obsession..its like the thrill of the hunt kinda thing ya know? i wonder if i would even be buying right now if the shelves were full. its just one of the bad sides of my personality that i have to fight with...sad but true

Potatohead
April 28, 2013, 10:18 AM
Now I need to find a .41 LC revolver!

hilarious

22-rimfire
April 28, 2013, 10:27 AM
I'm surprised someone doesn't say it's really a 41 Colt not a 41 LC. :)

The one caliber I have been buying is 480 Ruger. I have been buying a box a week ($33+tax) at Sportsman Warehouse and they usually have it. They have some expensive 44 mag ammo, but inventory is pretty limited. They actually keep the more popular ammunition in the "office" and you have to ask for it. Guess if they like you, they'll sell you a box or three?

Colonel, I know how you feel about ammunition. If I go into a store and they have some that I want and it is reasonably priced. I buy some even if I don't particularly need it. But I was in Walmart a while back and they had 3 100-ct boxes of 38spl target fodder in the cabinet; nothing much else, but the 38spl. I didn't buy. That would have been 300 rounds and that would have lasted a while for me. I am simply not shooting much centerfire handgun ammunition these days. Have lots of 22LR to shoot when I feel like it.

Queen_of_Thunder
April 28, 2013, 10:34 AM
I feel for those searching for ammunition. Reminds me of food lines. But you have to eat, most of us don't have to shoot. I am thankful that I have not been hunting for ammuntion since this most recent shortage started.

We have two Academy stores in my area. Haven't paid them a visit. Walmart gets their ammunition around 7:00 AM and there are people waiting to fill their 3-box daily limit.



Do you really have to shoot? Choose to shoot tomorrow or next week. What is the big deal? But I know... you want it when you want it.
You say "Big Deal" like someone with all the options in the world for the taking. Take moment and rethink.

22-rimfire
April 28, 2013, 10:42 AM
Nope, that is precisely what I intended to say. You don't have to shoot a gun. It's a sport for most of us. We shoot because we like to shoot. I have the same choices you do.

If you like a certain food product you normally buy at a certain grocery store and they are out of stock, do you go searching around town trying to get it then? You probably wait until they have it in stock and in the mean time, you eat something else. I'm "eating" 22LR these days because I have quite a bit in my cache (at least the common stuff versus target grade). And, yes, I planned for this shortage and stocked up and have been stocking up for years.

I imagine some of these tactical shooting classes that require about 1000 rounds of ammunition on hand to take the class are suffering these days. If I had 1000 rounds of 9mm, I certainly wouldn't blast it away in two or three days.

Potatohead
April 28, 2013, 11:21 AM
Rim, you sound like a person who is well stocked. Its no "big deal" for you but some of us are new to this. I had zero ammo and zero firearms on Feb 1st of this year. Put yourself in my shoes for a minute...i cant go "eat something else"

22-rimfire
April 28, 2013, 11:41 AM
Guess I would be doing what you're doing. :D

I am well stocked with 22 rimfire ammunition. Have "enough" of the centerfire that I shoot, but I could use more of that and as a result, I ration it a bit at the range. If I would nomally shoot 50 rounds, I'll shoot half that at most or shoot some and switch to 22LR. I have not been selling 22 ammunition. I have no interest in that other than to help someone out locally given the opportunity.

Colonel, when we get past this shortage, start buying at a rate of 2 to 1 shot and your inventory will grow. Get it to a comfortable level to you and then go 1:1 until you have urge to increase the cache.

I don't mean to come off (snobby or something akin to that) like I have all that I want. Probably have all that I need for the time being as long as this shortage ends in a few months at least for centerfire ammunition. Unlike you, I have been shooting for years and I like certain guns and certain calibers more, but I have a pretty good selection to choose from. For example, 41 mag factory ammunition is often hard to find and I buy it when I see it and buy 10 boxes at a time online from time to time. I have well over 1000 rounds in house. It is one of the centerfire calibers I really like to shoot. Don't shoot much 357 mag. Do shoot a fair amount of 40 S&W and I keep a mix available at my house.

The whole goal with stocking up was not to build up a cache to brag about or to tell people like yourself (too bad or whatever), but so I don't feel like I have to run to the store just to go shooting even when retail inventories were good. That is where it starts... then it grows especially in the case of 22LR because I'll shoot 3 or 4 different brands in a day and started buying in case and half case lots with that stuff. I like Federal Lightning (510B) for everyday shooting... and Walmart sells or did sell it. I'd pick up 1000 rounds just about every time I visited a Walmart and that is often once a week for groceries and so forth. Lots of Walmart stores around where I live. I seldom shoot 1000 rounds of 22LR in a week of any variety. So the pile grows very quickly and one day you inventory and are amazed just how much you have lying around in closets, cabinets, drawers, ammo boxes, and so forth.

Queen_of_Thunder
April 28, 2013, 11:56 AM
Nope, that is precisely what I intended to say. You don't have to shoot a gun. It's a sport for most of us. We shoot because we like to shoot. I have the same choices you do.

If you like a certain food product you normally buy at a certain grocery store and they are out of stock, do you go searching around town trying to get it then? You probably wait until they have it in stock and in the mean time, you eat something else. I'm "eating" 22LR these days because I have quite a bit in my cache (at least the common stuff versus target grade). And, yes, I planned for this shortage and stocked up and have been stocking up for years.

I imagine some of these tactical shooting classes that require about 1000 rounds of ammunition on hand to take the class are suffering these days. If I had 1000 rounds of 9mm, I certainly wouldn't blast it away in two or three days.
Well that may be fine for you as you can do other things but as someone who has to use a walker to get around its not. Shooting is a very friendly sport for those of us with mobility problems. I can't go hiking anymore, camping,play softball or other sports I use to do but I can go shooting. I can do benchrest,shotgun even certain pistol matches. So yea it is a "BIG DEAL" to me.

22-rimfire
April 28, 2013, 12:16 PM
Queen, I would be more than happy to help you out if you lived near me at regular prices on stuff I have. I'm glad you enjoy shooting. It's a great sport and hobby, but it is not an inexpensive pursuit. I wish you well in your quest for ammunition.

Potatohead
April 28, 2013, 02:18 PM
I hear u rim. No harm done.

Fyi everyone. Ive been to two walmarts today just to see whats around (my wife has me on the dont buy anymore ammo list after last nite) and they both had oodles of 40 and 45. I think this thing may be unraveling a bit. Around here anywho

22-rimfire
April 28, 2013, 02:45 PM
I have visited the Huntsville AL Walmarts. Glad to hear that they have some handgun ammo in stock.

Walmarts are one of the places I look for beforehand when I do out of town jobs. The usual first day is to go to job site and start, then on the way back to the motel hit Walmart for snacks and other munchies. Visits to Sams Club, Lowes, or Home Depot are also usually a priority. I also check for banks to see where the closest bank that I do business with is just in case I need cash. I'm sort of anti-ATM.

nathan
April 28, 2013, 03:02 PM
Last Friday i was at my local Academy. The hunting ammo shelves were fully stocked with rifle , shotgun and odd handgun ammos. No .22 LRs , .357 s , .22 Mag , .17HMRs, etc.

Queen_of_Thunder
April 29, 2013, 11:03 AM
Today Academy received a case of AE 100 round count boxes of 5.56 and a case of Indepndance 20 round boxes of 5.56. This is the first 223/556 we've seen in some time. Two boxes of 500 count UMC 45ACP was available. Some Hornady 308 and 3 cans of CCI 22lr completed Academys offering. Number of people in line exceded 30 today. A longer than normal line for a Monday. Three families showed up to buy ammo.

btg3
April 29, 2013, 11:32 AM
I'd had some luck at Academy earlier this year -- lined up with some friendly folks before opening who knew the drill and approached the ammo counter in an orderly fashion when the doors opened.

Thought I'd try again a few weeks ago, but the rules had changed.

As I walked up to the only shopper at the door 90-minutes before opening, I was informed that I was not second in line but that there were a dozen other folks sitting in their cars in the parking lot who were ahead of me. Seems it's the same bunch every M-W-F and they've organized this system to the exclusion of others.

Also, I had a truly cordial chat with a regional ammo manufacturer that takes orders and sells to walk-in customers. The shipping time is understandably a number of months, and the walk-in purchases are limited to try to be fair -- but generally a shooter brings a van-load of kinfolk with a shopping list and buys everything that's now in demand as soon as the doors open.

And I've seen first-hand that local gun shops and ranges have also organized to buy ammo from the big box stores to have ammo available for their customers.

Yep, the competition to buy available ammo is significant. It's tough for those caught short-handed. I don't have a stockpile, but I'm thankful that I can keep shooting pistol matches and take new shooters out for their first handgun experience with a variety of calibers -- without having to buy in this market.

Warners
April 29, 2013, 12:16 PM
Yes. You'd think if you that much spare time, you'd reload.
Assuming you could find reloading components, you mean? It's a sad state of affairs. I'm in a holding pattern myself....holding and NOT shooting. :(

Warner

JRH6856
April 29, 2013, 01:45 PM
As I walked up to the only shopper at the door 90-minutes before opening, I was informed that I was not second in line but that there were a dozen other folks sitting in their cars in the parking lot who were ahead of me. Seems it's the same bunch every M-W-F and they've organized this system to the exclusion of others.

I'm thinking there could be some problems arise from that. AFIAC, if you are not in line, you are not in line. I don't really care what the only other guy in line has to say, if I am behind him, I'm second. You can get behind me. And if you try to move me out of my rightful place, that is assault, and the monkey dance begins.

readyeddy
April 29, 2013, 03:03 PM
I'm one of those that initially made comments like "don't feed the demand" and "just don't shoot". Now I know better. For some, shooting is a big deal and worth the effort to find ammo.

And reloading is another option, but not a perfect one since both reloading components and equipment are hard to find.

FitGunner
April 29, 2013, 04:37 PM
Queen - Our Academy had a similar shipment today: Bulk boxes of .45, Hornady Steel Match .308, Independence 5.56, AE .223, some hunting .223, Critical Duty 9mm 135gr +P, Speer Gold Dot .380 (haven't seen .380 or GD in a long time), and Winchester Super-X .22LR. They also had Blazer aluminum 10mm on the regular shelf...for $30. Not much in the way of guns though. They just sold out of 10/22s and Marlin Model 60s. I was surprised to see them on shelf for so long.

It was nice to actually see some ammo at the counter!

Potatohead
April 29, 2013, 05:10 PM
Hate to hear that Btg. I gota say the crowd at our wal marts and gander have been real civilized so far, i'd even go as far as to say classy. Not so at my LGS, its like winner take all in there. Alot of testosterone in there for some reason. I guess it doesnt help that theres 300 people crammed in a room meant for 50

Queen_of_Thunder
April 29, 2013, 05:16 PM
I'm thinking there could be some problems arise from that. AFIAC, if you are not in line, you are not in line. I don't really care what the only other guy in line has to say, if I am behind him, I'm second. You can get behind me. And if you try to move me out of my rightful place, that is assault, and the monkey dance begins.
Maybe there but if you are the first one there it doesn't matter if you're in your vehicle. Everyone behaves themselves and management has been quite vocal in thanking us for our good behavior.

22-rimfire
April 29, 2013, 09:11 PM
So Queen, how does standing in line with a walker feel? I suspect it doesn't feel too good.

Maybe Academy should give numbers (ammo? Take a number) outside like they do inside in the one I visited 6 months ago in my area? Sure would solve the social issue and everyone could wait in their vehicles.

Queen_of_Thunder
April 29, 2013, 11:19 PM
My walker has a seat which needs a cushion but its also a tactical walker. It has a leather shotshell pouch on one side and a scabbard on the other.

saenzrich
April 29, 2013, 11:30 PM
Everybody can thank DHS for this and after the inquiry that has been put forth all you naysayers can pucker up. Allthough those who have been thinking we were are the problem are puckered up 24/7 anyways.

Kynoch
April 30, 2013, 01:34 AM
Bad time to start reloading, given the scarcity of components. I expect that most primer production has been swung into feeding ammunition production versus sale as reloading components.

Nope.

The pacer is machine time in assembling the cartridges, not machine time in making the components at least per Hornady.

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