Maybe Bloomberg is better for the 2nd Amendment than we thought?


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usmarine0352_2005
April 26, 2013, 06:54 PM
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Mayor Bloomberg has done plenty of damage in his career. However, as his final term (if he doesn't vote himself another term by extending term limits) is up, he will be steaming full ahead with his anti-gun agenda.


Bloomberg and his MAIG (Mayors Against Illegal Guns) was looking very strong. However, with Bloomberg going over the deep end with his attacks on guns, large soda's, and then cigarettes people have started seeing his as more of a crazed dictator than a common sense politician.


Perhaps Bloomberg's recent craziness will help us more than expected.
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M-Cameron
April 26, 2013, 06:56 PM
well, Bloomberg has done more for the 2A than anyone else.......according to Bloomberg

HK G3
April 26, 2013, 08:22 PM
I have a sorta related question for you guys: MAIG has robocalled me 4 times over the past 4 days... I'm on the Do Not Call registry, but obviously they do not care.

Is there anything I can do to make them stop calling me?

KTXdm9
April 26, 2013, 09:22 PM
I could be wrong, but I thought do not call only applied to telemarketers.

HK G3
April 26, 2013, 10:05 PM
No, you're right, I just looked it up.

So I guess I just have to live with MAIG dialing me daily...

KTXdm9
April 26, 2013, 10:07 PM
I would certainly argue it should. I hate robocalls.

greenmtnguy
April 26, 2013, 10:13 PM
Heck - I would have some fun with it - When they call ask them about their MAIG member mayor James Schiliro, who allegedly had a cop bring a young male to his home where the mayor demanded sex at gunpoint, and then fired the gun in the house when the young man refused. Or ask about how many of the mayors in the group in fact aren't allowed to personally have firearms because of prior convictions?

JFrame
April 26, 2013, 10:14 PM
The OP may be on to something. With his statist excesses regarding salt on restaurant tables, 32-oz soft drinks, etc., Bloomberg is rapidly becoming the punch-line of late night talk show hosts. IIRC, even Bill Maher recently referred to Bloomberg as a "bully."

As far as I can tell, there's nothing wrong with having people make the association between Bloomberg, soda restrictions, and calls for firearm restrictions.


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HK G3
April 26, 2013, 10:23 PM
Heck - I would have some fun with it - When they call ask them about their MAIG member mayor James Schiliro, who allegedly had a cop bring a young male to his home where the mayor demanded sex at gunpoint, and then fired the gun in the house when the young man refused. Or ask about how many of the mayors in the group in fact aren't allowed to personally have firearms because of prior convictions?


Oh believe me, if they actually had a human being talking to me, I'd tear into them and their anti-freedom agenda. But it's always the same, really sad-sounding woman-robocall.

Texan Scott
April 26, 2013, 10:57 PM
Bloomberg has been good for the 2A the way having my front teeth punched out would be good for my dental hygiene ... only because it would FORCE me to go to the dentist.

That seems about right, since I like Bloomberg about as much as I like dental pain.

usmarine0352_2005
April 26, 2013, 11:16 PM
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There's a bit of kickback to Mayor Bloomberg now. A reporter did an article and said no one likes a bully and that "King Bloomberg" has become that.
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S&W-Keeper
April 27, 2013, 12:32 AM
What is this thing you call Bloomberg.

gym
April 27, 2013, 01:09 AM
http://www.nraila.org/legislation/federal-legislation/2013/4/bloomberg-says-interpretation-of-constitution-has-to-change.aspx
You can comment on the original article here
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/23/Bloomberg-Celebrates-Erosion-Of-2nd-Amendment-Sees-More-Opportunity
It seems just about all of the comments are against his great new idea, and I think he is going to self destruct, if he continues.

scaatylobo
April 27, 2013, 10:14 AM
Agreed.
Bloomtard and Coumo are very good for the "other side" [ US,the American gun owner ].

Sadly I reside in NYS [ NOT nyc ] and it has made me see that I might have to relocate after living in the same state for 65 years.

If the idiotic laws are not reversed or just thrown out,many of this state will leave WITH their pensions and income too.

Sad day for a state when its politicians are THE reason for the residence to leave.

Last one out ----- turn off the lights

Carl N. Brown
April 27, 2013, 10:25 AM
Sometimes I feel with enemies like Michael Bloomberg and Piers Morgan, who needs allies? If I created caricatures of the worst of all the anti-gunnuts I have read in the past 50 years, rolled into strawmen talking points, I could not come up with more perfect foils than Bloomberg and Morgan.

Pilot
April 27, 2013, 10:28 AM
I do believe the tide is turning. Especially now with the Boston bombers, I think people are realizing that more gun laws do not reduce violence, and that average citizens should be able to protect themselves from these criminals. I think Bloomberg is losing, no matter how much money he has, and throws at elections.

SuperNaut
April 27, 2013, 10:52 AM
BloomBorg, and Fears Morgun, their names are ripe for ridicule.

Pointing and laughing at these buffoons is quite an effective tactic by the way. The pompous fear ridicule.

Lj1941
April 27, 2013, 11:11 AM
Come on guys,remember the name of this forum.:)

BigBore44
April 28, 2013, 05:45 AM
While personally I like all the witty names people come up with for these people, I have to say that Obama, Bloomberg, and the other idiots out there in power have actually been great for the firearms industry and introducing new shooters. In New York tomorrow there may possible be an injunction against the new laws there. So it's not all bad. The more they threaten, with fallacies as fact, the more they lose credibility with the people.

TheSaint
April 28, 2013, 05:56 AM
When they robo-call you, direct them to this site:

http://www.stopillegalmayors.com/ :D

Oh, and don't forget to check out this thread:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=8877471

Thank you Bloomberg! :)

Cee Zee
April 30, 2013, 01:03 AM
I agree with the OP. Give a leftist enough rope and they will hang themselves every time. All it takes is to let them talk and soon most reasonable people realize the gun grabbers they hear are not reasonable people. Not knowing what it is you want to ban (like the sponsor of the AWB a couple of years ago that didn't know what a barrel shroud was but she wanted to ban them). People like Obama calling weapons used at Sandy Hook fully automatic when everyone who has read a news article about the incident knows that he didn't use automatic weapons. Our education of the public does make a difference. People are learning that their leaders are exaggerating the truth. When you read a story with a headline that says, "Chilling details emerge of weapons stash" and the story only mentions that they had "guns", a gun safe, and shotgun shells. people mostly understand that isn't "chilling" in any sense of the word. In fact keeping your guns in a safe is a responsible act in every gun grabbers lexicon. Yet the propaganda flows. I think the public is getting wise to the lying ways of these politicians who care more about "not letting any disaster go to waste" than actually doing the right thing. When you hear over and over that "90 percent" of the public wants new gun laws only to find out eventually that what the public says they want in that poll is background checks which of course we already have. It was just another rigged poll designed to produce a desired response. People talk about banning gun sales over the internet where there are no background checks then when they learn that you can't buy guns over the net without a background check they don't like it that they have been sold on a foolish and untrue notion of reality. You can only cry wolf so many times before the villagers stop showing up with their pitchforks. I think Bloomberg has pushed the buttons of so many people that he is viewed with skepticism as soon as he opens his mouth. So yeah, I think he is good for the second amendment. He might get some short term victories but in the past 20 years gun owners have made huge leaps in restoring lost rights IMO. Just the number of states that allow concealed carry now is amazing. I never dreamed I would see that in my lifetime. Yet here we are with almost every state allowing for concealed carry in one form or another.

I think we're winning this battle. It isn't over yet and the opposition is getting desperate because they are losing and they know it. That's why we see them tug at the heartstrings instead of producing any kind of rational argument. They have lost the debate and now their only hope of winning the struggle is through propaganda and deception based on emotional view points. That's a losing strategy the way I see things. It may seem the world has gone mad but NRA membership grew tremendously in the time between Sandy Hook and the vote on the new gun laws. Yes some states lost big but overall we have made great strides in the nation as a whole in my lifetime. No one could carry concealed for most of my life. It was a given that you absolutely could not do that in any state. Things have changed radically and for the good IMO.

DeadMoneyDrew
April 30, 2013, 01:10 AM
Bloomberg is quickly becoming for the left what Donald Trump became long ago for the right. Each is a successful businessman with borderline personality disorder. The stubbornness/control-freakishness that made each of them successful in the private sector has made each of them a pariah in politics.

barnbwt
April 30, 2013, 01:36 AM
I'm on the Do Not Call registry, but obviously they do not care

How do you think they got your number? Now, who's people are in charge of that List, again..? ;)

TCB

Akita1
April 30, 2013, 10:53 AM
Thinking one knows what is best for everyone else does NOT give one the moral high ground.

Akita1
April 30, 2013, 10:59 AM
183468

Here's the JPEG (looks like the PDF didn't load); I may have to start a side career.

Akita1
April 30, 2013, 11:27 AM
One more for 'ole Bloomy

dc dalton
April 30, 2013, 11:31 AM
He's managed to do some serious damage here in PA. He financed, and helped get elected a 100% anti-gun attorney general, Kathleen Kane. She has already destroyed reciprocity between 3 states and PA and she plans even more damage.

Don't discount him because he lost (so far) at the national level, the real damage can be at the state / local level.

longknife12
April 30, 2013, 11:49 AM
Damage was darn sure done in Colorado!
Dan
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bigdaa
April 30, 2013, 12:02 PM
Freedom isn't Free and the progress these people have mad against it is proof.

Bloomy reminds me of Mussolini. He has that "Fascist Flair" that cannot be covered, hid or disguised. He hates us "little" folk and the "flyover" people.

The truth is that the US is infiltrated with hatefilled people working against the foundations we all have come to rely on since birth.

I find that so very uncool.

hnk45acp
April 30, 2013, 12:50 PM
The best argument for Bloomberg AND Cuomo is that they represent the bottom of the slippery slope. They embody "give them an inch they will take a mile". In NYC crime and murder is 50% of what it was 20 years ago and yet we have more restrictions now than ever (7 round limit, registry of handguns and "assault" weapons, fees for ownership, fees to renew, etc.). When people ask what's the big deal about expanding background checks you can show them how this is just the camel's nose in the tent.

Carl N. Brown
April 30, 2013, 01:24 PM
I remember Bloomberg discussing the case of the Tennessee tourist with a carry permit who tried to check her gun with NYC authorities: he told a press conference (and potential jury pool) that the gun with an out-of-state permit was the least of her problems, it was the cocaine in her purse she needed to worry about. NYPD found Goody's headache powders in her purse.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goody%27s_Powder

Nothing like having the Emporer of New York City contaminating the jury pool with his prejudgement.

The man's hubris knows few bounds. Oh, God pride of man.
http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/q/quicksilver_messenger_service/pride_of_man.html

Cee Zee
April 30, 2013, 02:59 PM
In NYC crime and murder is 50% of what it was 20 years ago and yet we have more restrictions now than ever

There's no doubt the guy has done some damage and he will end up taking credit for what Rudy did 15 years ago. It was Giuliani that made the change in NYC and he did it be enforcing the existing laws. He didn't need new ones. He actually punished people for breaking laws and it wasn't long before people stopped breaking laws so much.

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