This isn't good - Opposite reaction we need for pro-gun senators


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usmarine0352_2005
April 30, 2013, 01:43 AM
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We need, and I cannot emphasize enough, how we need to remove gun control politicians and elect pro-2nd amendment politicians in the next elections to show politicians that we do have actually voting power, not just the NRA.


If we start losing pro-2nd amendment politicians it will show the anti-gunners that they can run free with their anti-2nd amendment legislation and that the pro-gun movement no longer has the voting power we had after the '94 AWB.



This is a huge deal. We need to vote the pro-gunners in and the anti-gunners out.





http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2013/0429/Gun-vote-backlash-Five-senators-who-said-no-see-ratings-plunge




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Gun vote backlash: Five senators who said 'no' see ratings plunge

Approval ratings have plummeted for five senators who voted against expanded background checks for gun buyers, says a PPP survey. But only one is up for reelection in 2014. Will it still matter in 2016 or 2018?

By David Grant, Staff writer / April 29, 2013


Five senators have seen their approval ratings drop after they voted against a measure to expand background checks to gun buyers online and at gun shows, according to recent surveys from Public Policy Polling, a Democratic-leaning firm.

But only the Democrat Sen. Mark Begich of Alaska is up for reelection in 2014. So the question becomes, will these poll numbers have any bite when the Republican senators return to the electoral ring in 2016 or 2018?
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mljdeckard
April 30, 2013, 01:46 AM
I disagree that it is a big deal at all. There is a LOT people hate lawmakers for right now, and the only way a democrat will get re-elected in ALASKA is if they stay pro-gun.

TheSaint
April 30, 2013, 01:49 AM
From the article:

Public Policy Polling, a Democratic-leaning firm.

So they called up a few socialists on their roll-call roster and they supported gun control, hence, they didn't like that these legislators stood up for individual rights. No surprise there. Polls like these are hardly scientific. It is up to EACH of us as individuals to thank the statesmen who are doing their job, and vote out the ones that aren't. The majority of the American people are not gun grabbers. Don't loose heart about this "poll" data. If you believed the gun grabbers, 90% of NRA members lovvvvvvvvvvvvvvve the idea of universal background checks/gun registries. Yea right!

Blackstone
April 30, 2013, 07:23 AM
If the 1994 election Democrat defeat is anything to go by, large pushes for gun control end badly for the party pushing them.

Carl N. Brown
April 30, 2013, 07:39 AM
....surveys from Public Policy Polling, a Democratic-leaning firm.
I would like to see sample size, the script read to the respondents, the actual questions asked, the response data both raw and weighted, before I would even consider the poll to have any bearing on 2014 or 2016.

Hopkins
April 30, 2013, 07:42 AM
The best hope for the pro gun representatives is to remind every voter that they also voted against Obamacare. That law's disastrous implementation will overshadow every other issue driving voters in the next election cycle.

alsaqr
April 30, 2013, 07:50 AM
It's not a big deal. Look at the company that did the alleged polling.

hunttheevil
April 30, 2013, 08:36 AM
I call BS as well. Three of the five Senators are from Alaska and Arizona. Two of the most gun friendly states in the union. I see it as media propaganda since Manchin is still trying to push UBC's.

DonP
April 30, 2013, 12:05 PM
There is a lot of gun control push polling going on to try and reinforce the idea that "90% of the people want this or that". It's all funded by Bloomberg, the VPC and the media and magically, it shows what they want it to show.

Does anyone here actually believe that 90% of Americans agree on anything from gun control to whether the sun rises in the East?

Offset the lies and keep spreading the honest information by word of mouth, letters to your Senators, Reps and News media that there already is an extensive background check system in place, at stores and gun shows. Feel free to make fun of people that don't know what they are talking about then drop a supported fact on them.

Don't forget to throw in that Eric Holder chose to only prosecute 44 cases out of thousands of felons trying to buy guns that got caught and stopped by the current NICS check system.

The gun control people rely heavily on ignorance of a lot of people that aren't paying much attention and don't think past a bumper sticker or a sound byte.

But sadly, every one of those idiots we see on Leno's "Jaywalking" and laugh at, has a vote that counts as much as ours do.

gym
April 30, 2013, 12:17 PM
Don't be misled by polls driven by anti gun media outlets. It's the number of letters and emails that come across the desk of the representatives that show the determination of "the people". They, "The Reps", understand that the numbers are always being exaggerated by the news outlets.
I would feel much more in touch, if I suddenly got a few thousand emails asking me to do, or vote on something, than an assistant showing me a poll in a biased newspaper or a blurb on a biased tv show.

HOOfan_1
April 30, 2013, 12:20 PM
The only polling that matters is done on election day...in a booth

CoRoMo
April 30, 2013, 12:22 PM
I imagine that the article was written before the poll results were counted.

X-Rap
April 30, 2013, 12:31 PM
All this is preaching to the choir, what happens to these slanted polls is that they become gospel to the MSM and are repeated on all networks as fact. The same thing that happened with the reporting of 90% wanting UBC when a majority don't even understand what it is or how it would be enacted.

Ryanxia
April 30, 2013, 12:59 PM
We need to make sure to pay attention to when our representatives come up for reelection and push hard for their opponents if they voted for the UBC. I'm not sure how we go about getting an opponent to run if they haven't declared it already.

Shadow 7D
April 30, 2013, 01:00 PM
As an Alaskan, I can tell you 2 things
a NO vote is hardly noticed, an if noticed mostly in a positive light
and they sure the hell DIDN'T CALL ME

that said Bloomberg has been interrupting my dinner for the last week with robocalls
you can imagine how that increases what I think about boomy

Cosmoline
April 30, 2013, 01:07 PM
I've hired pollsters in this state and unless you spend the time and money necessary to ferret out a representative sample, you're going to end up getting a selection of people from the left side of Anchorage. This state is highly resistant to accurate polling, both because of the weird population dynamics and the fact that so many of us don't use traditional land lines and absolutely will not talk to pollsters. I can promise you this, under no set of circumstances will Begich's vote hurt his chances at reelection in Alaska. Some Dems will no doubt grumble but the state level party is pretty well organized and Begich draws a lot of water. So I very much doubt we'll see a serious insurgency in the primaries against him. The GOP may end up going with some nutter very few will vote for. If he HAD voted with Obama, that would have been a very different scenario.

The methodology on the poll just says they called up 1,500 voters. They don't say how they determined who to call or how many were willing to talk to them.

Cooldill
April 30, 2013, 01:08 PM
Gun control is not about guns, it's about control.

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