Which of these do you own? (5.56/.223 and .30-06)


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Warp
May 2, 2013, 06:05 PM
Vote.

Vote according to what you currently possess ammunition for. The original question is: What is the most widespread centerfire rifle cartridge? Not absolute volume/quantity, but the most commonly found.

I'll arbitrarily say that the minimum number of rounds to qualify is 20 completely cartridges that are in a ready-to-fire condition.

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joeponds
May 2, 2013, 06:17 PM
223 nobody else is close.

Scooter22
May 2, 2013, 06:36 PM
The original question is: What is the most widespread centerfire rifle cartridge?

7.62x39. I'll bet theres more of that in US shooters inventory than even .223/5.56. Concider how much has been inported over the last 20 years, the availability of SKS/AKs and the dirt cheap prices in the past. I have 3, 5.56 rifles and 7, 7.62x39.

Don357
May 2, 2013, 06:39 PM
7.62X51/.308Win Best of both worlds. If I need more, I go 8mm Mauser, less, I go .22LR

Warp
May 2, 2013, 06:41 PM
Original thread

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=715170

jrdolall
May 2, 2013, 09:55 PM
I see a lot of comments about milsurps and AKs and Mosins but please don't forget that the 30-06 milsurps have been around for even longer. There are a lot of 30-06 battle rifles in houses around the USA.

With that said I think .223 will overtake the 30-06 eventually.

Pete D.
May 2, 2013, 10:02 PM
I have all of the cartridges mentioned so far. Plenty of them.

dakotasouth
May 2, 2013, 10:03 PM
I have far more .223 than .30-06, but my -06 stash is a respectable pile, if I do say so myself.

Inebriated
May 2, 2013, 10:15 PM
I only have .30-06.

I would like to add 5.56 soon, but I'm in no rush.

beatledog7
May 2, 2013, 10:15 PM
I own .223 Rem bolt-action rifle, but not any kind of semi-auto. I would own a 30-06 bolt-action rifle had I not stumbled upon a great 7mm Rem Mag. I have yet to see a need for both (but I still want a 30-06).

justice06rr
May 2, 2013, 10:27 PM
5.56/223 only for me.

Someone said that 7.62x39 is more widely in use but I highly doubt that considering our own military uses 5.56/223 almost exclusively. You would have to take that into account.

ball3006
May 2, 2013, 10:43 PM
7.62x54r/rifles have been around longer than 3006 rifles. Mosin Nagant rifles went into service in 1891 and 3006 came about in,....................................... 1906.....chris3

Deltaboy
May 2, 2013, 10:49 PM
30-06 only.

Bobson
May 2, 2013, 11:12 PM
Neither currently. Will certainly be adding a .30-06 before a 5.56, but definitely will have both sooner than later.

loose noose
May 2, 2013, 11:14 PM
A very accurate Weatherby .223 in Bolt Action, 2 TC Contenders one a rifle, one a 14" Pistol, 2 AR-15s one with a 20" bull barrel again very accurate, One Mini-14 that I just installed an Accu-strut but because of the wind I haven't had the chance to shoot it yet. Oh yeh, then a Weatherby 30-06 that again is very accurate, does a Remington 700 BDL Custom Deluxe .270 count, afterall it is just a necked down 30-06? :D

gbw
May 2, 2013, 11:40 PM
Both like most of us, but members of this forum are not a good sample to represent all CF rifle owners, imo.

Most gun owners aren't enthusiasts, and of the enthusiasts many won't bother with on-line gun forums. I'd guess most ordinary rifle owners don't have too much use for .223/5.56mm.

Those few left (us) are the ones most likely to own 5.56

Net result is that 5.56/223 ownership is over represented by forum members compared to the overall rifle owning public, I'd bet heavily so imo.

I know a lot of folks who own one or maybe 2 rifles and a half box of shells for each. Had those same boxes for years. They aren't .223s.

Still, I was surprised to see Phil on Duck Dynasty blasting beavers with an AR last year, so who knows.

WardenWolf
May 2, 2013, 11:49 PM
For me it's 5.56 and .308. That's a far more common combination than 5.56 and .30-06.

Hardtarget
May 3, 2013, 12:21 AM
.30-06 only. Its for my 1903 springfield and my M1 Garand.

I don't have an AR...so I gave the 5.56 ammo to my son. It was just sitting there.

Mark

ps: don't get me wrong. I'd like to have an AR and will probably buy one by years end. maybe.

TheHomelandSoldier
May 3, 2013, 01:09 AM
I had to vote 5.56 only because I don't have anything in .30/06. I have 5.56, 6.8 and .308.

I6turbo
May 3, 2013, 01:39 AM
Both like most of us, but members of this forum are not a good sample to represent all CF rifle owners, imo.

Most gun owners aren't enthusiasts, and of the enthusiasts many won't bother with on-line gun forums. I'd guess most ordinary rifle owners don't have too much use for .223/5.56mm.

Those few left (us) are the ones most likely to own 5.56

Net result is that 5.56/223 ownership is over represented by forum members compared to the overall rifle owning public, I'd bet heavily so imo.

I know a lot of folks who own one or maybe 2 rifles and a half box of shells for each. Had those same boxes for years. They aren't .223s.

Still, I was surprised to see Phil on Duck Dynasty blasting beavers with an AR last year, so who knows.
^^^ This.

I'd be very surprised if .30-06 topped .223 here with this members poll, and almost as surprised if .223 topped .30-06 in actual ownership in the U.S. That said, I have three .223s and three 30 calibers, but no .30-06.

Cee Zee
May 3, 2013, 03:01 AM
7.62x39. I'll bet theres more of that in US shooters inventory than even .223/5.56.

I own one .223 and one 30.06. I own two 7.62 x 39 SKS's. I did own an AK-47 too. I don't really have a need for more than one 30.06 although I've been thinking about getting a better one. The one I have is good but there are better examples. My .223 is probably the best rifle I own. It's not a black rifle. It's a bolt action, varmint shooter. For a battle carbine I go with the SKS. And that's why I have two of them. A backup is always good idea when you're betting the farm on a rifle. I got into the SKS 21 years ago and I've just never seen a good reason to change now. It would cost quite a bit to stock up on ammo to the point I'm at now too. Oh I forgot about the boat sinking. I'm not sure how much 7.62 x 39 I have now. A boat is a bad place to store ammo.

meanmrmustard
May 3, 2013, 06:55 AM
I see a lot of comments about milsurps and AKs and Mosins but please don't forget that the 30-06 milsurps have been around for even longer. There are a lot of 30-06 battle rifles in houses around the USA.

With that said I think .223 will overtake the 30-06 eventually.
How, pray tell, have milsurps chambered in 30/06 been around longer than the Mosin Nagant?

ETA: 556 and 30/06 here.

baz
May 3, 2013, 09:53 AM
I'd be very surprised if .30-06 topped .223 here with this members poll, and almost as surprised if .223 topped .30-06 in actual ownership in the U.S. That said, I have three .223s and three 30 calibers, but no .30-06.My intuition is based on the observation that gun ownership is growing, while the number of those who hunt is stagnant, or declining. And especially with the recent threat of an AWB, the ownership of .223 has undoubtedly surged. So if .223 has not yet surpassed .30-06 in the US as a whole, it will eventually, and sooner rather than later.

No doubt the membership here is not exactly like the makeup of firearm owners generally, but I'm not sure that makes much difference to this question. There are probably just as many .223 owners who don't get involved in a forum like this as there are 30-06 owners. As the poll numbers show, a majority of the members, being enthusiasts, own both. So "enthusiasm" tells us little about those who own only one or the other.

Arkansas Paul
May 3, 2013, 11:37 AM
Just '06 for me. Don't own a .223/5.56 but I plan on getting an AR sooner than later.

Someone said that 7.62x39 is more widely in use but I highly doubt that considering our own military uses 5.56/223 almost exclusively.

Worldwide maybe. Definitely not here.

InkEd
May 3, 2013, 11:49 AM
I don't own a .30-06 but do have a 5.56x45, 308 and 7.62x39.

Hands down I have the most ammo for the 7.62x39mm because of the three it's the only one I can still find commercial ammo for under 50cents per round.

bigdaa
May 3, 2013, 11:54 AM
M1 Garand, 30-06 eater.


"The Best Battle Implement Ever Designed" Gen. Patton


Two mini's and such...............

Kayaker 1960
May 3, 2013, 12:02 PM
I had a Ruger Ranch rifle for a while, sold it and don't miss it a bit. Love my Weatherby 30-06. Since I don't plan to go to war I don't feet the need for an AR or similar. For HD work I prefer my 12 gauge and .40

50 Shooter
May 3, 2013, 12:20 PM
Both.

Have 2 AR's (working on 3rd) and a 1903 Springfield.

Darkbob
May 3, 2013, 12:40 PM
I can't vote in this because I have neither. I don't own a rifle in .223 or 30-06.

Growing up in lower MI, firearm hunting was with shotguns and muzzle loaders, so I never even held a centerfire rifle until I was in the Army.

I do have a couple of other rifle calibers, just not those.

usurp31
May 3, 2013, 12:43 PM
.223

Water-Man
May 3, 2013, 12:47 PM
Gave the .30-06, a 700 BDL, to one of my sons about five years ago.

It's been replaced with a Tikka T3 Hunter in 6.5x55SE.

A very good decision for me.

Savage99
May 3, 2013, 12:48 PM
No use or interest in the 223. When there were woodchucks here the old 222 was used some.

The 30-06 is the winner of both world wars!

The 223 is the looser of wars. Not even legal for deer. It's a rifle cartridge however and that's good. Some use it here for target shooting.

Lj1941
May 3, 2013, 01:25 PM
If I was limited to ONE caliber only it would be a 30/06. It's utility is almost endless. It can be used for woodchucks or it COULD be used for the big bears with a proper load and a good marksman behind it. Granted it would not be the best choice for either but it could do the job. I can not say the same for the 223.:)

Cee Zee
May 3, 2013, 07:29 PM
Someone said that 7.62x39 is more widely in use but I highly doubt that considering our own military uses 5.56/223

Someone said world wide "maybe". Yeah right. The AK-47 is by far the most produced rifle of any ever made. Some countries incorporate that rifle in their flag. It is used by the military in dozens if not hundreds of countries. NATO doesn't begin to outnumber the accumulation of AK's in other nations.

Besides you said "our own military". The web is world wide. The world wide web - www - that's why they use that in addresses for web sites. This board has a lot of members from countries other than the USA. I doubt there are Chinese people on this board but I do know that China used the AK-47 for decades. Last I heard they were replacing it but still - do you know how big their army is? I've seen reports (CNN) that say they have 2.8 million soldiers. That's just active duty military. China is very capable of putting together a much larger army when needed. They sent half a million men into Korea to drive the US back away from their border back during the Korean War. China is very apt to under sell the size of their military if anything.

No way there are more .223 rounds in the world than 7.62 x 39 rounds. That's just true.

morcey2
May 3, 2013, 07:43 PM
4 x 30-06.

1/2 of a 5.56. Just the lower. Does that count? I voted 30-06 only because it still might turn into something else.

Warp
May 3, 2013, 07:49 PM
4 x 30-06.

1/2 of a 5.56. Just the lower. Does that count? I voted 30-06 only because it still might turn into something else.

Go back and read the OP again.

It clearly states that the question is about ammunition.

;)

morcey2
May 3, 2013, 08:11 PM
Go back and read the OP again.

It clearly states that the question is about ammunition.

;)
Doesn't change the vote. I don't have any 5.56 ammo. Do I look rich to you? ;)

Kachok
May 3, 2013, 08:18 PM
30-06 only, I make my own ammo. Never needed a 223 around here, smaller then I want o use on deer and too big for rabbit. Only real in between around here is yotes and I don't keep pelts to I don't mind that the 30-06 blows them to bits. Nothing "wrong" with a 223 it just does not fit any of my criteria.

housecat
May 3, 2013, 09:52 PM
I actually have more 30-06 ammo due to getting a few ammo cans of milsurp that was so cheap I couldn't say no.

zonzin
May 3, 2013, 10:49 PM
None,, own .22, 6.8SPC, .308, and .338 RCM.


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rondog
May 4, 2013, 01:04 AM
More than I can carry of each flavor.

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