Diamondback DB9 story..


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MikePaiN
May 6, 2013, 07:29 AM
A few weeks ago I was on hunt for something small and easy to carry in 9mm. The shop owner talked me into a Diamondback DB9. He said he has sold 20-30 and none have had issues(he knows of). The little gun felt very solid, sights seemed decent and the trigger was smooth. 9mm's just don't get any smaller than this DB9, have to be careful not to mistake it as a credit card and pull it out on some unsuspecting store clerk :D For under $400 out the door I fell for it.

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Vs. my EDC SR9c
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The first range session went pretty good. I got close to 200 rounds through it of 115g UMC, AE, Blazer Brass and 125g Oracle loads). In the first 100 rounds there was a couple of "stove pipe" misfeeds across all the types. The later 100 settled right down with no problems. The gun is small and very tight(it has a non-captive, dual-spring, all steel recoil assembly), so it was very sensitive to limp-wristing. It did start breaking in after 100 rounds but the little gun gave me a workout. Anyway, little guns are always iffy with me as to accuracy but this one is fine. After getting used to it, I was easily keeping all rounds in 3" at 7-10yards. This DB9 was particularly accurate with the 125g Oracle cast loads. The last 40 rounds I let rip, firing and loading as fast as I could...the gun didn't miss a beat and as stout as its recoil is, the pulse is pretty much straight back, making the DB9 easily controllable in rapid fire.

After a cleaning and lube, Saturday I took the DB9 for its 2nd time out....Right off the bat I started getting the stove piping(this time I added another type of ammo Speer Lawman 115g TMJ) The fail-to-feeds continued for the entire session ~1-2 every 20 rounds with all types of ammo I used. Also, I fired 100 rounds for the day and had 2 light strikes. There rounds were put through twice with no light off(both rounds were subsequently fired with one hit through the SR9c).

I really like the little pistol so I'm going to give Diamondback a chance to repair my DB9. The shop is sending it out today. I will update as on how this goes and how long the repair takes.

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ole farmerbuck
May 6, 2013, 07:59 AM
I just got a DB380. Sounds about like your 9mm. Guess I'll give them a call.

jhb
May 6, 2013, 11:13 AM
nice review thanks.....yours seems to be like everyone else i know who owns them,........... consistently unreliable. i say that and watch the 3 owners who's guns actually worked out of the box, come and hammer on me.:)

too bad as they are cool little guns, and local to me about anyways.....

MikePaiN
May 6, 2013, 05:20 PM
I find it strange that the shop sold so many and got none back. I'm a long time customer of the shop and they are straight-up, plus they had plenty of other guns they could have sold me.. :scrutiny:
Anyway, I hope we can get the reliability issues worked out...It'll be a shame to give up a gun this small that sports 7 rounds of 9mm in a 15.7oz(loaded) package, that shoots dead on and is an absolute breeze to carry...

Fishbed77
May 6, 2013, 05:23 PM
nice review thanks.....yours seems to be like everyone else i know who owns them,........... consistently unreliable.

My thoughts exactly.

With a number of reliable pocket nines out there in a similar price range (Kahr CW9 & CM9, Ruger LC9, Kel-Tec PF9), the Diamondback just isn't worth considering.

Thaddeus Jones
May 6, 2013, 05:26 PM
IIRC those Diamondback 380's and 9mm's were placed on the "verbotten" list for most local LE agencies here in Reidsville NC.

Again IIRC, it had to do with slides cracking/breaking. I heard this from a now defunct cop shop clerk about two years back. This shop had sold them for a short while and discontinued them due to all the problems. Especially reliability problems.

Hope you get it sorted out. :(

C0untZer0
May 6, 2013, 05:33 PM
I see your DB9 is one of the newer ones with the third pin added to increase reliability and durability.

I hope DB can fix your pistol. Multiple stove pipes and failure to ignite, and FTFs would shake my confidence in a pistol and I'd never carry it for SD.

I put about 200 rounds through my Rohrbaugh R9 without any problems until I got to Remington Golden Sabres. My R9 does not like them, I've read where people who have LC9s have a problem with them too - failure to ignite because a tiny bit of metal comes off the primer and clogs the firing pin hole in the breach. So I ruled Golden Sabres out, but the R9 has been flawless with 124gr & 147gr Gold Dots, Winchester 147gr PDX and Ranger T- RA9T, as well as 124gr and 147gr Lawman TMJ.

jhb
May 6, 2013, 06:25 PM
@MikePain......... possibly it's because unlike us, most folks buy a new gun and don't shoot it for awhile...some never shoot them. i can't tell you how many people i work with have pistols they bought and have never shot them. when i realized this and questioned them....they just assumed guns always work out of the box always, and they wanted a self defense gun, but don't like shooting much or at all. i know shocking right? i love to shoot just can't right now due to ammo costs and shortages....but that's another topic.......

its a good looking little glockish style pistol...hard not to like it, except they are very unreliable.....hope those florida boys get yours working for ya.

WardenWolf
May 6, 2013, 06:45 PM
I'm sorry you got burned by a Diamondback. My advice, and this will be the advice of many, is to turn around and sell it the moment you get it back. These guns are not structurally sound. One person even had their trigger bar break, which is not normally a wear part and something that should never break in a gun's lifespan. They have the bare minimum amount of material to be safe and function under ideal circumstances, which means they will break constantly and cannot be relied on. Don't trust your life to a Diamondback. Your life is worth much more than that.

MedWheeler
May 6, 2013, 08:58 PM
I already had a PF9 when the DB9 came out, so I wasn't interested, but I did look at one anyway once. Until then, the Kel-Tec held the title of "lightest, flattest" commercially-available 9mm pistol made. When I saw the DB, my first thought was "as much a handful as my PF9 is, I don't think I'd wanna go any smaller in a nine."

Hope you get yours dialed in.

beatledog7
May 6, 2013, 09:33 PM
Thanks for the write-up. I've been considering a pocket 9mm or .380, and I'm interested in reliability data on the DBs. So again, thanks!

LightningMan
May 6, 2013, 09:34 PM
I hope your DB9 works out better than mine did, as mine never reached 200 rounds through it without a breakage of some sorts. It went back 3 times and they sent me a new gun on the last trip back. I didn't bother to fire it, and promptly sold it. Now I hear Taurus has bought out Diamondback, so I don't know if this is a good thing or not.

non2os13
May 6, 2013, 10:08 PM
I have a db380 with around 400 rounds through it. I haven't had any problems with it so far. I had one stovepipe due to limpwristing, but so far no other problems. It's a pretty accurate little gun as well. hornaday ammo seems to run perfect through mine.

chuckpro
May 6, 2013, 11:45 PM
My bd9 stove piped at least one round in every mag, 1 in 5 that i shot the first range trip with cheep ammo bout 150 rounds. 400 rounds in with my reloads and premium ammo i have had no problems. I did completely strip the gun down and clean it after first range trip. They come from factory pretty wet but like to be run dry.

MikePaiN
May 7, 2013, 07:11 AM
What I should have done is more of my own research......instead of buying off someone's advice(even if I trusted that person). I really don't know where my head was at when I bought the DB.....right next to it in the case was two CM9s and a used PM9 :banghead:

Well, at least we have a good thread going, maybe it'll help someone else make a more informed decision...

maddy345
May 7, 2013, 08:51 AM
I've had my DB9 for about a year. It had to go back to the factory as soon as I got it due to light strikes.

I have about 250 rounds through it now and all of them have been trouble free.

SDGlock23
May 7, 2013, 11:34 AM
I had a DB9 once and liked it until I shot it. Recoil wasn't the issue, it's was a jam0matic. But to be fair, it was earlier production model. Still, as much as I wanted to like it I just couldn't and never felt confident in it. It is very small, probably one of the smallest 9mm's. Although slightly bigger (but still very small), the Kahr CM9 was a joy to shoot and very reliable.

Oh yeah, the DB9 was also slide bite city. There is next to nothing there to protect your hands from getting bit, so I had to hold it odd in order for it not to. I like that it's Glock-like, but only in looks, certainly not in function.

Fishbed77
May 7, 2013, 12:14 PM
I really don't know where my head was at when I bought the DB.....right next to it in the case was two CM9s and a used PM9

See if the owner will give you store credit against the CM9. I have one of those and it's an excellent little pistol - perfectly reliable with every ammo I've tried so far.

Mine was only $327 new (I'm sure they are a little more now in the post-panic market), so the price difference between it and the DB9 can't be that wide.

C0untZer0
May 7, 2013, 04:09 PM
I went expensive and got the Rohrbaugh R9, but I am happy with it.

Having said that though I think the CM9 is a great little gun.

raze
May 7, 2013, 06:22 PM
Mike I looked into them also and then did some research and found out their track record isn't so hot. The cm9 is a good little pocket 9 I had one and Jeff bought it off of me

palmettokat
May 7, 2013, 06:42 PM
Surprised to read of so many having issues with this pistol. My wife bought me one for 2011 Christmas and have been totally pleased with it. Yes it has been shot I am sure well over 200 rounds many being the bulk Winchester ammo with not enough issue to notice if any. Good enough my wife wants one and we have no issue buying another.

The dealer on that gun is two ex policeman and ex military and really will tell you quickly their honest thoughts on a gun and the best I know they still recommend it.

Could the issue on the not feeding be caused by the bullet? We had 380s we had feeding issues with to the point we sold both and months later a different dealer said the issue was the ammo you were using and I did not sell you the guns nor the ammo but you had flat nose ammo right? Yep, he went on to say on that small of gun the angle of the ramp requires round nose. Makes sense to me for he was totally correct on the 380 were jamming with Magtech which had a semi round nose with the very tip flat. Not sure they had any issue with truly round nose ammo.

Please don't think I do not believe there was those Diamond Back that broke or failed but not aware of any thing man made that does not. As to the Kel Tec 9, most uncomfortable handgun I have ever shot. It just hurt.

herrwalther
May 7, 2013, 07:23 PM
I have heard enough horror stories from Diamondback to avoid them altogether. There are lots of other pocket 9s with better reliability paying a little bit more like Ruger LC9 or Sig 938. And there is a video on the tube site that shows a DB 9 or 380 blowing open with a +p round.

Caliper_RWVA
May 7, 2013, 08:07 PM
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With a number of reliable pocket nines out there in a similar price range (Kahr CW9 & CM9, Ruger LC9, Kel-Tec PF9)

You must have bigger pockets than me, those are all too big to fit in most of my pockets. I bought my DB9 to have something smaller than my PF9. Of course, I also got it used with four mags. Couldn't justify the new price. I find it fun to shoot the DB personally, but also enjoy the PF9.

palmettokat
May 7, 2013, 10:27 PM
The Diamond Back is not rated for Plus ammo so it blowing up with the use of that ammo might be expected, correct?

jhb
May 7, 2013, 10:46 PM
Any handgun that can't handle +p ammo in limited doses is scary, to me at least.

I'm surprised that anyone is surprised that diamondback has a standing reputation as unreliable. Db started as a boat maker with guidance/leadership from ex keltec guy or guys, so their experience in firearm making was limited at best. That said taurus being involved now can only help the brand and hopefully good things will happen to quality and reliability, and maybe they will be able to handle hotter ammo without kabooming?;)

Lethal Threat
May 7, 2013, 11:21 PM
They banned me from their forum...........twice.

Do not spend your hard earned money on this POS. Your life or your families life is not worth a gun "that maybe it will fire". Mine turned out to be a single shot at best.

MikePaiN
May 8, 2013, 07:07 AM
I'm going to give the DB9 one more chance....If it comes back from repair and is not 100% reliable, I will return it and get something else(likely a CM9).
If its fixed, then I will happily carry it. I shot it well from the first, with no controls outside of the trigger there really is nothing to "learn" so I wont need to practice live fire much. Once I verify function the gun will be lucky to see more than a couple hundred rounds more in the rest of its life with me.
I'm hoping to have it back by the end of the month.....I will keep you all posted

palmettokat
May 8, 2013, 10:30 AM
I did look at the video and found it interesting.


Left me with a few questions: If a gun is not rated for Plus P ammo how many rounds should it be able to shoot safely?
What do you think about the stove pipe thought some posted there as the cause base upon what happened?
You mean if a company were to have this major a safety issue they rather face lawsuits than a product change or recoil? I know this one would vary with the company.
If the gun is this bad has anyone who has reviewed it and posted their approval of it on line come back and change their recommendation?

Please not pretending to be an expert here on such. Just thinking and asking. But I will visit with my dealer on this issue and have two friends in the business and will ask both shops.

WardenWolf
May 8, 2013, 01:04 PM
I'm just going to reiterate what I said in my previous post:

Don't trust your life to a Diamondback. Your life is worth much more than that.

non2os13
May 8, 2013, 07:44 PM
I have had pos colts and springfields. Should no one trust them either?

Fishbed77
May 9, 2013, 10:49 AM
I have had pos colts and springfields. Should no one trust them either?

For every POS Colt or Springfield, there are likely 99+ that operate flawlessy. The M1911 has proven itself as a sound design, provided it is put together correctly and good magazines are used.

The DB9, on the other hand, is a flawed design from the start. Every single one of them is afflicted with an incredibly short service life, unreliable mechanicals, and a restriction against firing +P ammo ammo. I have yet to see a single review of one operating reliably into a round count numbering into the 1000s.

palmettokat
May 9, 2013, 06:02 PM
I visited with my lgs this afternoon and was straight with him on what was posted here and he said we have not had an issue with any DB and strongly recommend it. He did say it is a gun that needs to be broken in.

If I only trusted guns rated for Plus P ammo guess need to toss a SW I have, but don't think I will. Then should I only trust one rated for Plus P Plus? Just asking?

I do suggest if you are not comfortable with any gun then don't use it. Mount it, sell it, give it away or just lock it up.

WardenWolf
May 9, 2013, 06:26 PM
I visited with my lgs this afternoon and was straight with him on what was posted here and he said we have not had an issue with any DB and strongly recommend it. He did say it is a gun that needs to be broken in.

He's lying, and NEVER go back there again. That is straight up bullcrap right there. I've never heard of one reaching 300 rounds without a problem. About the time it should be "broken in", it's simply broken, period.

It completely blows my mind that he would claim that. He has to have gotten plenty of these guns back. Most likely he's just trying to avoid yet another return. What a load of horse manure. I can't believe he managed to say that with a straight face. You're better off with a Jennings than a DB9.

kokapelli
May 9, 2013, 06:31 PM
I visited with my lgs this afternoon and was straight with him on what was posted here and he said we have not had an issue with any DB and strongly recommend it. He did say it is a gun that needs to be broken in.

If I only trusted guns rated for Plus P ammo guess need to toss a SW I have, but don't think I will. Then should I only trust one rated for Plus P Plus? Just asking?

I do suggest if you are not comfortable with any gun then don't use it. Mount it, sell it, give it away or just lock it up.
Wow! After my experience with a DB380 and everything I have read at diamondbacktalk.com I would be really suspect of anything your LDS tells you.

The failure rate of the DB380 pistol is terrible and after my DB380's two trips back to the factory I have had enough of Diamondback and would not under any circumstances consider one of their 9mm pistols, but if you want to be a guinea pig like I was have at it and let us know how it goes.

jhb
May 9, 2013, 10:54 PM
@Palmettokat.......I'm not a db hater and I kinda like 'em except that they are unreliable. Your lgs is either way out of reality, or not paying attention, or too arrogant to see the facts. No way can anyone say that. The failures in the design is known and not just internet ramblings and exaggerations.


Its a shame too as they have cool little pocket pistols and hopefully the engineers at taurus can work out the issues an make 'em right.

C0untZer0
May 9, 2013, 11:09 PM
Oh ya, if anyone can fix the design, the engineers at Taurus can...

jhb
May 9, 2013, 11:53 PM
One can be hopeful, right? Can't do any worse the the boatmakers at db have done. If we are gonna call spades spades might as well call 'em.:)

palmettokat
May 10, 2013, 09:14 AM
I have no reason to believe anyone is not telling the truth as they know it. Based upon your experiences will not at this time buy the second DB9 my wife wants and will do some more shooting of it. I will let you know my experience with that. Will not be the next few days but will follow back with you all.

palmettokat
May 10, 2013, 01:32 PM
Got chance today to visit other LGS I use on this today. He had one in his display for sale. Not a fan of the DB. He had a couple he had sent back for repair. Said he had tried one and had jamming issue but looked back at review on youtube and the man (can not think of his name right off but he reviews a lot of guns) said it would jam with round nose it was made for hollow point and since it was a self defense carry gun that is all it should be loaded with. I did not notice that in his video but had scanned the video and did listen to each word.

At same time there was another customer in there who also did not like the DB and tried to take an employee's spouse out of buy one and he said he still did and has no problem with it and really likes it. He did not give a reason he did not like them just said he did not.

Still plan to shoot mine a good bit more and decide where I am with it. So far still feel safe to depend on it.

non2os13
May 10, 2013, 04:08 PM
Mine has been trouble free. It isn't a range gun and didn't have any problems is the several hundred rounds i have run through it. I have also had only good experience with taurus hundguns as well though.

silicosys4
May 10, 2013, 05:43 PM
@Palmettokat.......I'm not a db hater and I kinda like 'em except that they are unreliable. Your lgs is either way out of reality, or not paying attention, or too arrogant to see the facts. No way can anyone say that. The failures in the design is known and not just internet ramblings and exaggerations.


Its a shame too as they have cool little pocket pistols and hopefully the engineers at taurus can work out the issues an make 'em right.

Lol, I hate to say, but the diamondback db9 is one of those guns that's only use to me is to "truth test" gun reviews. If I find a review that has nothing but glowing praise, or dances around the issues with statements like "its a great gun but picky with ammo, once you find its preferred diet it's as reliable as the day is long" concerning a pistol that's meant for personal protection....I know not to trust that writer. Stopped reading a few review sites because I got sick of reading glowing praise for many handguns that danced around their obvious issues that are notorious, well known, and widely accepted elsewhere.

Roadking Rider
May 10, 2013, 06:18 PM
If anyone is really considering a small 9mm pistol like the DB, you'd really be doing yourself a disservice by not checking out the Kahr CM9 before you plunk down your hard earned money on a pistol like the DB

MikePaiN
May 10, 2013, 09:03 PM
As for me, if the DB9 will simply work, it'll would serve the purpose I bought it for.
I doubt the gun will see even close too a thousand rounds in its lifetime. I didn't buy it with delusions that the pistol was indestructible or was going to be shot at the range every time I go out. Its purpose is light carry and backup to the SR9c. I wanted a 9mm as small as I could get at a reasonable price(with a bonus, the DB9 shoots dead on too)
When Diamondback gets the DB9 back to me if I can get through 150 rounds without a FTF or light strike, its going into duty.....If its not working, its going back for a CM9 and I'll have two nice used holsters for someone with a working DB9 ;)

WardenWolf
May 11, 2013, 01:33 AM
The problem with that logic, MikePain, is that putting 150 rounds through it will use up a substantial portion of the gun's lifespan. These guns typically have a critical breakdown between 200 and 300 rounds, usually right around 200. So by putting that many rounds through it just to make sure it's reliable, you make it reasonably likely that it will break when you need it most.

frankenstein406
May 11, 2013, 03:44 AM
They kaboom pretty good with +p from watching a video on YouTube.

TennJed
May 11, 2013, 03:59 AM
You must have bigger pockets than me, those are all too big to fit in most of my pockets. I bought my DB9 to have something smaller than my PF9. Of course, I also got it used with four mags. Couldn't justify the new price. I find it fun to shoot the DB personally, but also enjoy the PF9.
The CM9 is actually shorter than the DB9 and another to consider would be the Sig P290, which is not as tall as the DB9. All these measurements are so close it comes down to other things to make the decision on what to buy. The DB9 is small, but there are others out there just as small (or smaller), in the same price range, and with better reviews

DB9
Weight: 11 Ounces
Length: 5.60"
Height: 4.00" with mag
Width: 0.80"

Kahr CM9
Length O/A: 5.42"
Height: 4.0"
Slide Width: .90"
Weight: Pistol 14 ounces

Sig P290
length 5.5
height 3.9
width 0.90
weight 20oz

Beretta Nano

MikePaiN
June 18, 2013, 05:55 PM
I know you all have been waiting with baited breath for the follow up on this pistol.... :rolleyes:
After almost 2mo it is finally returned. I called DB a few weeks ago and was told that repairs were taking longer than usual because of supply shortages, I should except it back by 6/21...fair enough. The repair order states the slide was refurbished, latest non-specified upgrades were done and it was test fired x12 rounds with WWB 115g. Its not listed but the feed ramp and chamber throat are polished.
I will be taking this DB9 to the range tonight or early tomorrow and I'll report back on how it goes.

improperlyaged
June 18, 2013, 06:03 PM
A friend of mine asked me if I thought these were good guns, I told him they were junk. He went and bought it anyway, and then spent two months trying to make it not junk. I will never own one.

ole farmerbuck
June 18, 2013, 08:46 PM
I went ahead and sold mine. It was a .380 though. :barf:

MikePaiN
June 18, 2013, 11:45 PM
Well.....it ain't good :( I'm calling this one a POS.

I tried four types of 115g ammo, Federal Champ., Rem. JHP, WWB and WPA(steel). All the brass ammo had feeding problems, 1-2 per 10rounds fired. Strangely enough I ran the entire 50 rounds of WPA(Wolf) without a hitch.. :confused: The steel rounds were fired last, I almost didn't bother but did anyway. I tried some more brass after the steel fired but immediately started having feeding problems again.
All totaled I shot 170 rounds

jhb
June 19, 2013, 12:14 AM
Disappointing. Shame those cocoa boys couldn't get it right before they sent it back out. Not surprised though. The legacy of disappointment by db continues in floriduh.

kokapelli
June 19, 2013, 12:18 AM
Disappointing. Shame those cocoa boys couldn't get it right before they sent it back out. Not surprised though. The legacy of disappointment by db continues in floriduh.
I don't think it can be made right based on my own experience with one of their 380 pistols and everything else I have read on the Internet.

MikePaiN
June 19, 2013, 12:43 AM
I don't think it can be made right
I've got the same feeling and I'm not waiting another 2mo. I bought the gun for "summer carry" the season will be about done in another 2mo...
I have no confidence in this gun, since I bought it new, I'm going to talk with the shop owner about a refund or exchange.....Especially since it was the owner that talked me into it, saying how he's sold so many and has had no problems with them.

MikePaiN
June 20, 2013, 10:27 PM
Not getting a good "trade-in" from the dealer and no wanting to sell an iffy gun.....I decided to call Diamondback, I got through to Scott, the customer service manager. We talked over the problems this gun is having(mis-feeds, walking frame pins, off-center rear sight) and the long wait for the first repair.
Scott convinced me to send the gun in again, he promised a fast turn around, to personally take it in, do all the service and testing himself.....and to replace the DB9 with a new one if this one is not completely fixed.
The story continues..........

palmettokat
June 21, 2013, 10:22 AM
Mike hope it turns out well for you. I am one of the owners who is pleased. Mine is about 1 1/2 years old and somewhere about 2 to 3 hundred rounds shot with no issue.

Did find your experience with the different brands of ammo interesting.

Reminded me of two 380 Taurus we had and had failure to feed issues often. Sold them. Felt it was mostly due to my wife (she is who really had the issue) was weak wrist and few months after selling was talking to total different dealer who said your issue was the ammo. You were using so and so brand weren't you? Which to me was interesting as it is seldom in stores around here but the answer was yes. He went on to say it is the design of the bullet that brand uses (maybe only issue with that model pistol).

HexHead
June 21, 2013, 10:50 AM
It completely blows my mind that he would claim that. He has to have gotten plenty of these guns back. Most likely he's just trying to avoid yet another return.

What gun store accepts returns? Certainly none around here do. At least not once the gun has left the shop. At best they will return the gun to the manufacturer for you under warranty.

HexHead
June 21, 2013, 11:01 AM
Scott convinced me to send the gun in again, he promised a fast turn around, to personally take it in, do all the service and testing himself.....and to replace the DB9 with a new one if this one is not completely fixed.
The story continues..........

I'd cut my losses and sell it immediately upon it's return. That way you're not knowingly selling a defective pistol, and have plausible deniability.

WardenWolf
June 21, 2013, 11:23 AM
Did you hear about the new star scientists have discovered? They know it is very old because of its low metal content. And so, they named it Diamondback. :neener:

But seriously, these guns have the minimum amount of metal in them to keep from blowing up, and things that should never break, like trigger transfer bars and slides, do so at a very predictable rate. And they can't just fix it simply because there's not enough meat engineered into the part; they would have to redesign the whole gun for the reinforced parts to fit. Avoid Diamondback at all costs.

TennJed
June 21, 2013, 01:22 PM
What gun store accepts returns? Certainly none around here do. At least not once the gun has left the shop. At best they will return the gun to the manufacturer for you under warranty.

Same here, once it leaves the shop you return it to the manufacture.

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