What is the Best State to Live In?


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DonNikmare
March 17, 2004, 12:13 AM
I know this is a subjective question so I expect subjective answers but here is what I would like you to consider when answering......

This is about more than just gun friendly states...

- Being able to shoot outdoors in the free and open range (recently found out there isn't much of it in Tx - you pretty much have to own land or have friends who do). Also most gun friendly in general.

- Cost of living, Unemployment, General economy

- Politically conservative - most residents tend to be moderate to conservative as opposed to moderate to liberal

- Weather - low humidity in the Summers hot days are ok but cools off in the evening and night, cool to cold Winters

- Nature - some mountains, not too much flatness, ability to get away from city and be in the middle of nature without having to drive hours n hours on end.

Well, have I described any state already? Colorado? Nevada? Utah? or ....?

Thanks in advance for any input.

Nik

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ken w.
March 17, 2004, 12:34 AM
Well,I don't think it's New York for gun owners.:banghead: :cuss: :barf:

dav
March 17, 2004, 12:36 AM
Nirvana is a nice state.

But I usually just live in the state of denial.

(from your desires, I'd vote Utah first, Arizona second.)

Dr.Who
March 17, 2004, 12:36 AM
Which state.... How about Nirvana....

Of the States that I have lived in so far, Oregon fits many of your topics, biggest issue was property tax many years ago, and being California-ised. They are having some economy issues now, I would love to retire there or just accross the Washington border.

Lived in Colorado, Utah, Oregon, California, Michigan, and Illinois....

Black Majik
March 17, 2004, 12:50 AM
I'd probably say Arizona...

Josey
March 17, 2004, 02:16 AM
I live in Kentucky. I was raised in Kentucky. I like it here. If I were not retired, I would NOT like it here. I had the absolute MOST fun in my life in Georgia. Albany as a matter of fact. Good peanuts. If you don't mind driving a bit, your entertainment choices are unlimited.

hanko
March 17, 2004, 02:54 AM
Idaho...seems to meet everything you're wishing for.

-hanko

twoblink
March 17, 2004, 03:09 AM
The PRK, PRChicago, PRNY, PRNJ, and PRDC get a thumbs down..

Gabe
March 17, 2004, 03:54 AM
What does everyone think about Wyoming?

Chip Dixon
March 17, 2004, 09:24 AM
BRRR

TallPine
March 17, 2004, 09:32 AM
Montana

But you pretty much have to bring a job with you

GunWares
March 17, 2004, 09:39 AM
What does everyone think about Wyoming?

Wyoming is great. Some of the best scenery in the USA. No state income tax. Conservative politically. It can get windy up there, though. If I didn't already live in a great state (Colorado), Wyoming would be my choice. Here's a pic of the Snake River with the Tetons in the background from a vacation I took there a few years back.

http://www.gunwares.com/images/public/teton-1.jpg

armoredman
March 17, 2004, 10:14 AM
Hmmm, open area, good gun laws, low humidity, heat OK....Tucson.
No registration, license, permit except for shall issue CCW, open carry OK.
No waiting period, (other than 15 minute brady check, none if you have CCW), magazine limit ban, state or local AWB, one gun a month bans, none of that nonsense.
CCW permit is NOT weapon specific, or number of weapons - Class III is OK, and specifically OK for CCW.....yes, if you have an SMZ rig for your legal MAC10, and a CCW, you may carry it, with whatever back up you want - I knew a guy who did just that.
Pima County has a new public range opening up south of Tucson, ranges are everywhere.
Our economy is growing, new construction is everywhere. LOTS of room, and several THR members live here.
Heat? 110-115 in the summer, with 5-10% humidity, EXCEPT August, monsoon season, which can be very ugly for those poor suckers with swamp coolers.
Winters are great.
Get away? Drive 20 minutes in any direction, you are in middle of nowhere. Mountains nearby, and up in northern AZ is some beautiful scenery. Hunting spots everywhere.
We were just voted the worst city for crime in the US - biased reporting according to our PD spokesman on the news last night. Go figure.
Mexico is 60+ miles away, if you want to take an UNARMED jaunt across the border.
Well? Whaddya think?:D

gggman
March 17, 2004, 11:30 AM
I've lived in Maine all my life. Very good for gun ownership and CCP, but otherwise a very liberal state and very highly taxed.
Summers are very short, and winters are very long.:barf:

Mantis
March 17, 2004, 12:53 PM
Definitely not New York :barf:

Cosmoline
March 17, 2004, 12:58 PM
Here's a pic of the Snake River with the Tetons in the background from a vacation I took there a few years back.

Foothills, mere foothills. :D

If you're worried about deep cold, Kenai or Homer would be an option. It's not all that wet, and the climate is fairly mild. Plus there's good fishing, hunting, and an extensive wilderness very close. A good mix of flat country with mountains, plus Cook Inlet.

wardog
March 17, 2004, 03:00 PM
I believe you have described Colorado.

The cost of living (well, housing) in the nicer parts of the Denver area is not what I'd call cheap anymore. Get outside the city into the rural areas and you can find some deals. A buddy of mine is buying a house in Florrisant. Over 20 acres and a nice house with great mountain views for $200K. He can shoot right on his property.

Lennyjoe
March 17, 2004, 03:49 PM
Arizona!!!

If you can stand the heat:evil:

PATH
March 17, 2004, 03:58 PM
North East - I like New Hampshire.

South West - Arizona and Colorado

South - North CArolina or Florida.



SKip Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts, and California!

TamThompson
March 17, 2004, 07:37 PM
TEXAS! Bite the bullet and buy land--the state is very big on protecting property owners. One of our biggest advantages, which I haven't seen mentioned, is our larger-than-life culture.

Oh, wait a minute, I forgot...we've got way too many newcomers flooding in here already. OK, nevermind: we're not a good place. Nope, no good at all. You wouldn't like it. Just pass us by... ;)

Travis McGee
March 17, 2004, 08:19 PM
If you need some mountains, I'd say Arizona, or Wyoming or Idaho if you can handle the cold. (I can't.)

Texas or Florida if you need warm salt water. (I do.)

Cyberdyne systems
March 17, 2004, 08:42 PM
CALIFORNIA !!! :cool:

mp40
March 17, 2004, 08:55 PM
Idaho, by far..... Yes I am biased, transplanted here after 10 in the Air Force. Winters can be tough, but the springs, summers, and falls make it great. quite a few ranges around, and plenty of open space to fire whatever you like. Very conservative- Extremely Pro-2ND Amend-Great Senators and Rep's-Low cost of living........

Myself
March 17, 2004, 09:54 PM
Confusion

:p

mcneill
March 17, 2004, 10:34 PM
Saw a new sign in my favorite Tex-Mex restaurant today. "Texas is not for amatuers". Well, I thought it was funny.

Seriously, you're right about having to own property in order to shoot on the "open range". But there are areas in the state where property is not expensive - these areas are not near any of the major cities.

Jim

George Hill
March 18, 2004, 12:16 AM
http://seismo.ethz.ch/~jowoe/pix/utah.jpg

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