Happy St. Patrick's Day


March 17, 2004, 09:57 AM
The Irish have a proud history as a fighting people; fighting the Vikings, fighting the Romans, fighting the English, fighting each other and yes, even fighting the occasional hangover.
Most of their greatest triumphs as soldiers and warriors have come in the service of other countries. This makes their contribution no less valid.

So today, I lift a pint to all of my Irish brothers and sisters out there and to those who aren't Irish, here's to you as welll, you envious lot.:)

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Ala Dan
March 17, 2004, 10:16 AM
May the "Luck Of The Irish" be with us today! :cool: :D

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

Carlos Cabeza
March 17, 2004, 10:24 AM
Irish here, ;) Now someone needs to post a .jpg of an OD green poly gun !:D

Gus Dddysgrl
March 17, 2004, 10:37 AM
I love how it's St. Patty's day and a day for the Irish when St. Patty was really Welsh. Hmmm oh well. I'm a mix of a little of the Irish somewhere in there I think, and lots o' Welsh in me. ;) hee. No I'm not wearing either green or orange. I am wearing gray. :D :neener: :evil:

Have fun whatever color your wearing and which ever drink your drinking.

(I had an irish quote and now I can't find it. Oh well.)

March 17, 2004, 10:45 AM
Actually he was Italian. Real name: Patricus. He first went to Wales, thence to Ireland, which is where the idea that he was Welsh comes from.


March 17, 2004, 11:01 AM
Carlos wrote
Now someone needs to post a .jpg of an OD green poly gun !


Since you asked.


<----- Very Irish :D


March 17, 2004, 11:06 AM
A Happy Day to All.

Now go out and drink some green beer, and have some good Irish corned beef and cabbage with 3 sides of vegetables - mashed potatoes, boiled potatoes, fried potatoes.

If that's Ireland's most famous dish, its no wonder my ancestors left 150 years ago.

Carlos Cabeza
March 17, 2004, 11:06 AM
Ahhhhhh, a Springfield XD in that beautiful green olive drab. Many thanks my fellow Irishman !:D

March 17, 2004, 11:26 AM
st. patrick wasnt italian. he was born in england (wales) under roman rule, captured by irish raiders, lived 6 years as a slave (where he became very religious) before escaping to england again, he then attended a religious school in france before coming back home and then on to ireland where he spread christianity.

Mark Tyson
March 17, 2004, 11:30 AM
Just so they don't closet this thread down, does anyone knows if guns are legal in Ireland?

March 17, 2004, 11:43 AM
Thanks for the reminder. My British mother always made a point of wearing orange on March 17th. I'd better call her to remind her (although at 87, it may not be quite as important!). :D geegee

CZ 75 BD
March 17, 2004, 11:49 AM
to prevent the Irish from taking over the world.

Erin go braugh!

March 17, 2004, 11:49 AM
I'm part Irish, Its my Birthday and I got a new Bushmaster. Ahhhh Luck of the Irish....:D

March 17, 2004, 11:50 AM
Its my Birthday and I got a new Bushmaster.
Green furniture? ;) geegee

March 17, 2004, 12:13 PM
Slainte! I'll be drinking some Guinness and smoking the green (858 Candela, not illegal green) tonight !

March 17, 2004, 12:20 PM
Happy St. Patrick's Day! :D

March 17, 2004, 01:03 PM
& have a wonderful Spring Equinox! :)

Eskimo Jim
March 17, 2004, 01:22 PM
Mark Tyson,
To answer your question, Ireland has very similar laws on firearms as England. Any sort of Handgun will get you lodging on the State's dime for a long, long time.

A friend of mine grew up and lived in a rural area of Ireland (very easy to do) and he said that a 12 guage shotgun always had a place on his farm. I believe that 22lr is available as well. As I understand it, all firearms are licensed, registered etc and all the permits expire on the same day. Registration/permitting is yearly and expensive.

I don't think that there is anywhere near the strong tradition of hunting for the masses as there is in the United States. I'm not familiar with Trap or Skeet being very popular over there. Target shooting is rather rare. CCW is unheard of.

There isn't much of a hunting season over there either. Hunting takes place year round.

I looked into going on a hunting trip to Ireland or Scotland at one point and the paper work to get a long gun into England or Ireland looked difficult. I believe that the permitting takes at least 6 months. I'd suggest doing a search on the internet for hunting guides in Scotland, Wales or Ireland. They will have some sort of information on firearms for you. I think that you can count out any self loading rifle.

I often wonder how many Lee Enfields, Thompsons etc would you find if you dug around in the wrong field near the North/South Border etc.

Happy St Patrick's Day!!!!


March 17, 2004, 01:31 PM
Sidebar on firearms & the English. I bought a DVD of "Quatermas 2" (a British sci-fi movie from the 50's) not long ago. Toward the end of the movie, English villagers attack a compound where an alien monster is growing. They take Stens & Thompsons away from the guards who have had their minds taken over by the monster. The villagers then proceed to take names & kick butt.
Nobody makes a big deal of handling weapons! The implication seemed to be that all those guys had been in the service, seen combat & they knew what they were doing.
How times change......

March 17, 2004, 01:44 PM
Happy St. Patrick's Day to all the Irish!

Eskimo Jim
March 17, 2004, 01:52 PM
From my understanding of St Patrick, he was born and raised in England within the Roman area. I don't believe that he was Welsh but I could be wrong. Sorry to all the Taffies out there.

After being take prisoner by a group of Celtic raiders, he was kept as a slave herding sheep. He eventually escaped and got passage to the mainland of Europe. He made his way to Rome, became a priest and eventually went back to Ireland to bring Christianity to the heathen Celts. I believe that he is buried in North Ireland someplace. I think that there are at least 2-3 places that claim to be the final resting place of St Patrick.

Regardless of the details of his life, whether he expelled snakes out of Ireland, etc., the important thing is that he spread the Word to the Celts, my ancestors.

Happy St Patrick's Day!!!


March 17, 2004, 02:34 PM
Concerning St. Paddy and snakes, the word is that he did, indeed, drive all the snakes out of Ireland, which is why there are none on that island today. Allegedly he lined them all up and said "All right, begorrah! All of you who wish to stay, raise your left hand!"


Black Majik
March 17, 2004, 02:41 PM
Happy St. Patricks Day to all. :)

J Jones
March 17, 2004, 02:50 PM
Where's the "puking green beer" smiley?

CZ 75 BD
March 17, 2004, 03:24 PM
Apostle to the Irish
The Real Saint Patrick

If you ask people who Saint Patrick was, you're likely to hear that he was an Irishman who chased the snakes out of Ireland.

It may surprise you to learn that the real Saint Patrick was not actually Irish—yet his robust faith changed the Emerald Isle forever.

Patrick was born in Roman Britain to a middle-class family in about A.D. 390. When Patrick was a teenager, marauding Irish raiders attacked his home. Patrick was captured, taken to Ireland, and sold to an Irish king, who put him to work as a shepherd.

In his excellent book, How the Irish Saved Civilization, Thomas Cahill describes the life Patrick lived. Cahill writes, "The work of such slave-shepherds was bitterly isolated, months at a time spent alone in the hills."

Patrick had been raised in a Christian home, but he didn't really believe in God. But now—hungry, lonely, frightened, and bitterly cold—Patrick began seeking out a relationship with his Heavenly Father. As he wrote in his Confessions, "I would pray constantly during the daylight hours" and "the love of God … surrounded me more and more."

Six years after his capture, God spoke to Patrick in a dream, saying, "Your hungers are rewarded. You are going home. Look—your ship is ready."

What a startling command! If he obeyed, Patrick would become a fugitive slave, constantly in danger of capture and punishment. But he did obey—and God protected him. The young slave walked nearly two hundred miles to the Irish coast. There he boarded a waiting ship and traveled back to Britain and his family.

But, as you might expect, Patrick was a different person now, and the restless young man could not settle back into his old life. Eventually, Patrick recognized that God was calling him to enter a monastery. In time, he was ordained as a priest, then as a bishop.

Finally—thirty years after God had led Patrick away from Ireland—he called him back to the Emerald Isle as a missionary.

The Irish of the fifth century were a pagan, violent, and barbaric people. Human sacrifice was commonplace. Patrick understood the danger and wrote: "I am ready to be murdered, betrayed, enslaved—whatever may come my way."

Cahill notes that Patrick's love for the Irish "shines through his writings … He [worried] constantly for his people, not just for their spiritual but for their physical welfare."

Through Patrick, God converted thousands. Cahill writes, "Only this former slave had the right instincts to impart to the Irish a New Story, one that made sense of all their old stories and brought them a peace they had never known before." Because of Patrick, a warrior people "lay down the swords of battle, flung away the knives of sacrifice, and cast away the chains of slavery."

As it is with many Christian holidays, Saint Patrick's Day has lost much of its original meaning. Instead of settling for parades, cardboard leprechauns, and "the wearing of the green," we ought to recover our Christian heritage, celebrate the great evangelist, and teach our kids about this Christian hero.

Saint Patrick didn't chase the snakes out of Ireland, as many believe. Instead, the Lord used him to bring into Ireland a sturdy faith in the one true God—and to forever transform the Irish people.

March 17, 2004, 03:30 PM

Beannachtam na Feile Padraig!

El Tejon
March 17, 2004, 03:35 PM
Still waiting for a Saint George's Day!:D

If Saint Patrick's day is celebrated by eating trash and drinking alcohol to excess, how would Saint George's Day be celebrated? Go into work early and leave late, then come home clean your house and go to bed early? :D

March 17, 2004, 03:44 PM
Are there any interesting Irish firearms?

March 17, 2004, 03:45 PM
Happy St. Patrick's Day!

Stuck wearing Air Force Blue today, until I get home tonight. :(

In the meantime, how about a green gun? (700PSS) :D


March 17, 2004, 03:48 PM
Twas great creac in Ireland before we settled on becoming Christians.
We were a war like race with lovely pagan rituals involving fighting, drinking, and of course, cavorting with members of the opposite sex.

We had tales of great warriors such as Finn and Cuchullain! There were the wars with the magical people of the North, the Tuatha de Danu. There was the Great Cattle Raid of Cooley, the Children of Lir, the Salmon of Knowledge and the story of Queen Maeve of Connacht!

Cuchullain, the great Irish hero, chained himself to a tree so that he could face his enemies as he was dying from his wounds. Ah! What has become of the children of the Gael. Before the guilt of Christinan times we were hedonists and warriors!

Lugh was the sun god and the Morrigan(composed of three manifestations)
was the goddess of death. We loved nature and our Druid priesthood!
Oh to return to those simpler times when we were warriors and poets!

Maybe we have not lost all the blood that once flowed through our veins!
If anyone cares to check they'll find that approximately 65% of the Medals of Honor awarded have been given to those of Irish ancestry(That was the figure given in the Irish Echo Newspaper). Most of those medals have been given posthumously. It either speaks to our great courage as a race or our incredible lack of good judgement!:D In the parlance of many an Irish Gin Mill in the Bronx: "Is this a private fight or can anyone join in"?

I respect Patrick as a great Holy man. He did tame the Irish a bit too much though!Now we have the "wee" people and some other lame legends.
I yearn for the days when our tales told of great warriors and their brave deeds. I yearn for the days of warrior poets and not saintly scholars.

I wish a happy ST. PATRICK'S Day to all my fellow THR members and officially make you one of us( an Irishman) for as long as you'd like to be!


March 17, 2004, 04:13 PM
My British mother always made a point of wearing orange on March 17th.

I've always made it a point to wear green on July 12 (Orange Day).

Kodiak AK
March 17, 2004, 04:13 PM
cordex Lots of them if you count the ones that where improvised.

If I am not mistaken there are few extreamly sweet black podwer arms also produced by them .

Eskimo Jim
March 17, 2004, 04:30 PM
There were a number of noted firearm makers in Ireland, Dublin to be specific. Most if not all are gone. I think that the Dublin Firearm makers were really over shadowed by the English firearm makers in Birmingham and London. I think that people that became gunsmiths in London, some went to Dublin to open their own shops. Also, I don't think that Dublin was the home of truly original smiths, I think that they copied what was in the English shops.

That's my somewhat educated guess.


March 17, 2004, 04:37 PM
William of Orange and his forces Defeated King James at the Battle of the Boyne on a July Twelfth many years ago. In the North of Ireland commemorations of that battle are still a bone of contention between folks.

Armalites are the favored weapon of Irish Republicans. They are both of course illegal in the North of Ireland.

Browns Fan
March 17, 2004, 07:37 PM
Today, we celebrated my birthday by eating out at a Mexican restaurant, go figure. Me Irish friends are green with envy!


March 17, 2004, 08:02 PM
I've always made it a point to wear green on July 12 (Orange Day).
Oh, no, Dannyboy .I'm shocked! :D :neener: geegee

March 17, 2004, 09:00 PM
Was in Ireland last summer. Had an oppurtunity to sample the Irish 7 course meal: Six Pints of guiness and a potatoe. Yummy stuff.

March 17, 2004, 09:20 PM
In the North of Ireland commemorations of that battle are still a bone of contention between folks.


You, sir, are a master of the understatement.

March 17, 2004, 09:30 PM
I'll be turning on the Boondock Saints shortly, keeping this gun related.

March 17, 2004, 11:01 PM
Q: And how many Irishmen does it take to change a lightbulb?

A: Ten. One to hold the bulb, and nine to drink enough to make the room spin (light beer version, only 2 or 3 with Bushmill's)

Actually, my favorite story was about a minor IRA soldier in the slammer who had received a letter from his elderly da' lamenting the effort to get his garden in in the coming Spring without his son's help. Sonnyboy wrote back, telliing his da' to be careful digging in the garden, as that's where he had buried all his guns. A few days later the Brits showed up at his dad's house and dug up the whole plot, but found nary a thing. At least da' had little trouble getting his garden in:D

Gang aft aglae, y'all.

March 18, 2004, 12:05 AM
I played with my Irish Enfield before I went to bed tonight.

Wait a minute....... that doesn't sound right.:p

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