Should I trade my pre-64 Win 94 for used Mossberg 935 turkey gun?


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BluegrassDan
May 11, 2013, 10:22 PM
Local gun store has a used Mossberg 935 Magnum Turkey 12ga 3.5" with the Ulti-full choke tube. Cosmetically, the gun has seen some use in the woods, but appears to be in solid condition otherwise. They have a $399 price tag on it.

I'm considering offering my 1956 Winchester 94 in .30-30 as a trade. It's in "good" (NRA) condition. Hoping for at least an even trade, and hopefully negotiate an aftermarket rear sight and/or other goodies to sweeten the deal.

My reason for considering the trade is because twice this season I've had a couple toms hang up around 50-55 yards. Using my 20 ga Remington 870, I wasn't confident enough to take that long of a shot. The 3" or 3.5" options in 12 ga would be a good remedy for this type of situation in the future.

I've already got some other deer rifles that I prefer over the Win 94. It never goes in the woods.

So, what are your thoughts? Yes or no?

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beatledog7
May 11, 2013, 10:34 PM
A gun for which you have a use is better than one for which you don't.

rcmodel
May 11, 2013, 10:39 PM
But pre-64 94's are never going to be made again.

How many Mossberg 935's do you think will be made in the next 40 hour work-week.

Think of the old Winchester as not eating anything, and you don't have to change it's diapers because it's already potty trained.

It's a win-win situation to keep it and save a few bucks on Star-bucks coffee until you can afford a proletarian Mossberg falling off the shipping trucks at every stop..

rc

icanthitabarn
May 11, 2013, 10:44 PM
I wouldn't even consider trading away that rifle because of where a turkey walked. A shotgun can be found cheap.

joed
May 11, 2013, 10:51 PM
But I understand where he's coming from asking this question. If you have no use for the gun it is useless for you. Unfortunately in this case he's sitting on something that isn't ordinary.

At present I have a model 94 from 1966 that was used by one of the local police departments here. Do you know how many times I've shot it? In 7 years 5 rounds. Can't bring myself to part with it although I did come real close.

If I lived near you I'd buy you a shotgun for that Winchester.

jmr40
May 11, 2013, 10:53 PM
No way!!!

You don't need 3.5" shells to kill a turkey. I'd trade the 20 gauge for one just like it in 12 and use 2 3/4" or 3" shells if I were to do anything.

03fatboy
May 11, 2013, 10:54 PM
Keep the win and save for the shotgun

cpy911
May 11, 2013, 10:58 PM
Those Winchesters will never be made again.
Go buy a cheap single shot 12ga or borrow one to kill the turkey.
Give said Winchester to your kid someday.

jim in Anchorage
May 11, 2013, 11:42 PM
You can buy a helluva lot of turkey for the price of a pre 64 M 94. If you're bound and determined to turn the 94 into a long range shotgun, sell it and buy a 10 gauge. Use the left over cash for ammo.

Hokkmike
May 11, 2013, 11:45 PM
Just this time look at the poll instead of that little voice that wants a different gun.

witchhunter
May 12, 2013, 12:09 AM
Thanks everyone for the correct responses....keep the 94 for all of these reasons. Trade the 20 gauge.

Bill50
May 12, 2013, 12:17 AM
Mossberg makes Maverick 88's brand new for about $200 taxes included. I have one. It works.

The only complaints I've seen are that the safety isn't in the same spot as the 500 and the finish isn't as nice as the 500. I don't think a turkey will care where your safety is and how nice your gun looks.

If the turkey wants to be shot by a nice gun, it would ask you to shoot it in the head with a '94 Win. I doubt a turkey would do that.

Mossberg also makes variants of the 500 that are under $400 if you do want your gun to look pretty..

rcmodel
May 12, 2013, 12:17 AM
toms hang up around 50-55 yards
Trade the 20 gauge.

IMO: 50-55 yards is out of range for a shotgun, regardless of the shell length.

If you can't kill it with a 3" 20, you shouldn't attempt to wound it with a 3 1/2" mag 12 either.

rc

jim in Anchorage
May 12, 2013, 12:33 AM
Mossberg makes Maverick 88's brand new for about $200 taxes included. I have one. It works.

The only complaints I've seen are that the safety isn't in the same spot as the 500 and the finish isn't as nice as the 500. I don't think a turkey will care where your safety is and how nice your gun looks.

If the turkey wants to be shot by a nice gun, it would ask you to shoot it in the head with a '94 Win. I doubt a turkey would do that.

Mossberg also makes variants of the 500 that are under $400 if you do want your gun to look pretty..
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Are there not states that require a shotgun for turkey hunting?

lobo9er
May 12, 2013, 12:38 AM
No. :)

lobo9er
May 12, 2013, 12:40 AM
Heres another question, who said yes and why?

rcmodel
May 12, 2013, 12:40 AM
Yes it is!

At least in Kansas, it is against the law to shoot a turkey with a rifle or pistol

If it weren't?

I would be using a 25-20 WCF Model 53 carbine, or a .44 Special S&W revolver instead of a shotgun.

rc

Tomcat47
May 12, 2013, 12:45 AM
No did that wore that Tshirt ...... Miss my 64!! No matter how much I like what I traded for, I still have those "shake my head" what was I thinking moments.

The One I traded was "MINT" ... and I mean *MINT*

hard to find these days....

Lj1941
May 12, 2013, 12:54 AM
:mad::mad:No-A pre-64 Winchester 94 is a classic.I don't know anything about the Mossberg. I have in the past made some stupid moves and hate to see it happen to anyone.

jim in Anchorage
May 12, 2013, 12:57 AM
Yes it is!

At least in Kansas, it is against the law to shoot a turkey with a rifle or pistol

If it weren't?

I would be using a 25-20 WCF Model 53 carbine, or a .44 Special S&W revolver instead of a shotgun.
It was SG only when I lived in NY. I also wanted to use a .25-20, in my case a Model 25 Rem. It just seemed like a perfect fit.

mrnic3guy1989
May 12, 2013, 01:00 AM
Hang on to that Winchester buddy!

rcmodel
May 12, 2013, 01:02 AM
It would be, and it is a perfect fit.

It's just Kansas, and other states end up with a few wounded turkey hunters every year.

Due to other 'Hunters' taking 'Sound Shots' at the gobbling turkey in the brush blind behind the decoys!!

I guess there are fewer fatalities if you aren't using a rifle when you shoot the turkey caller!

rc

HOOfan_1
May 12, 2013, 01:03 AM
Op is from Tennessee, looks like rifles are not legal for Turkey in TN.
50 yards is kind of far for turkey shot

BluegrassDan
May 12, 2013, 01:07 AM
Thanks for the reality check fellas. I'll hang onto the Winny and worry about a longer range shotgun next spring.

I appreciate the good and obvious advice.

a-sheepdog
May 12, 2013, 02:06 PM
I voted yes because if you don't have a need for the Model 94, trade it for something that is more useful. I am not a collector so I know many will disagree with me.

Scrumbag
May 12, 2013, 02:38 PM
Thanks for the reality check fellas. I'll hang onto the Winny and worry about a longer range shotgun next spring.

I appreciate the good and obvious advice.
Give it a few months and there will be lots of unsold "turkey guns" in dealer's shelves and they will be "last seasons" colours / specs by the time 2014 spring season roles around. See if you can't cut a deal then ;)

AKElroy
May 12, 2013, 10:36 PM
Pm some pics of that 94. You might get your cash plus a little jingle for ammo.

planetmobius
May 14, 2013, 01:08 AM
No.

ottsixx
May 14, 2013, 01:25 AM
I guess it depends on what your shooting needs are but I think I would.

TreeDoc
May 14, 2013, 01:46 AM
Not just no, but hell no.

David Clark
May 14, 2013, 10:09 AM
Do you have any idea what that 94 is worth ?? You could buy 2 New 935s for what good one are going for these days
Dave

HOOfan_1
May 14, 2013, 01:26 PM
Do you have any idea what that 94 is worth ?? You could buy 2 New 935s for what good one are going for these days
Dave

Yeah...if he doesn't want it, he should sell it...but get a better deal than he outlined.

If no one sold their pre 64 Winchesters, then there would be none on the market for anyone else to buy

DeadFlies
May 14, 2013, 01:51 PM
Keep and shoot your M94. They're a ton of fun, especially if you handload. Love mine.

silicosys4
May 14, 2013, 01:57 PM
I see mossberg turkey guns going for $150-200 all the time.
The last one I bought was a 3 1/2" magnum 835 that I paid $150 for, a few years ago. Not worth the trade.

Mat, not doormat
May 14, 2013, 02:13 PM
Trading at a gun shop is nearly always a good deal for the shop, but a bad one for the trader. If you're not appreciating the 94, maybe you really ought to send it down the road to someone who will. As you may have noticed from these comments, there are plenty who will.

So, sell it to someone who'll love it like it deserves, buy your turkey gun, and pocket the difference. Everyone wins, except maybe the turkeys.

788Ham
May 14, 2013, 02:25 PM
Bluegrass,

Heres another thing to think about : That 3.5" shotgun is going to have way more recoil than that 20 ga. Remington does....... think maybe thats why its for sale? Keep the Win. 94, buy a 12 ga. shotgun, they make all kinds to do the job. You don't need a 3.5" shelled shotgun to kill a turkey!

BluegrassDan
May 15, 2013, 08:59 AM
Do you have any idea what that 94 is worth ?? You could buy 2 New 935s for what good one are going for these days
Dave
Thanks for all the good advice, everyone. I made some extra money over the past two days producing a recording session which I'll use to buy the Mossberg, rather than trading the 94. So, I'll have both. Nevertheless, I do have some thoughts based on your comments and questions.

I suspect my 94 worth $450 - $600 depending on who wants it. Considering a Mossberg 935 Magnum Turkey is $700 brand new, I would think the price point would be a fair trade on a used Mossberg plus extras (aftermarket sights, sling, a few boxes of ammo, couple of choke tubes). So, I believe my original question was valid, regardless of whether or not one is more collectable than the other.

I can understand why to keep the 94 (which is what I'm going to do). It is a beautiful rifle, handles nicely, shoots great, desirable era of manufacture, etc. I really like the thing. But they are neither rare nor hard to come by. There were over 2,700,000 made pre-64, and there are dozens of pre 64s right now on Gunbroker is similar condition in the $400-$600 range with zero bids. My dad also has a 1956 Win 94, although his was his first rifle, and I found mine in a local gun store for $450 about two years ago.

I put in a whole lot of hours chasing longbeards for the past six weeks and came up empty handed. Two nice birds hung up just out of 20ga 3" range, and I'd be willing to put some time into trying the 3" or 3.5" 12 ga, patterning different loads, and coming up with something to extend the distance to around 50 yards (optimistically). The patterns on my 20 ga show that I should keep it under 30 yards, and that has made the difference this season.

Was hoping to hear more love for the Mossberg. It appears to be what I'd like to have in a turkey gun. Back bored, shorter overall length, camo, choke system, semi auto, higher payload. I'd spend more time with it in the woods than with my Win 94, which I might take in the woods once per deer season, if that.

So, those are my thoughts. Thanks a lot for the advice, guys!

Scrumbag
May 15, 2013, 09:30 AM
Hi Dan,

Glad you got the Mossy and hope you have many hours of happy hunting with her!

Now, get out there and work up those loads!

Scrummy

Longrifle2506
May 15, 2013, 10:12 AM
That would be a trade you would live to regret. Good thing you kept it. It may not seem worth much now; but the day will come when you will be glad you kept it.

Carl N. Brown
May 15, 2013, 10:42 AM
I sold a Mossberg 835 for $250. The gun was too specialized for me to get that much use.

I have a Marlin 336 .30-30, but if I did not have it, a servicable pre-64 1894 would be worth more than the 835 and 336 together.

In the long run though, I guess it boils down to what is of most use to you.

pricedo
May 23, 2013, 11:59 PM
I have a 1955 94 in 30-30 that I'll own the day I die.
I own a 1973 made 94 in 30-30 that I like also.
Just purchased a Winchester 94 (Miroku) Trails End takedown in 450 Marlin.
I own 94s from all 3 major epochs in Winchester 94 evolution.
Pre 64 New Haven
Post 64 New Haven
Post 2006 Miroku

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