Shipping AR lower


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Lindy7443
May 11, 2013, 10:31 PM
Friend went to UPS store w AR lower all packaged up to send for SBR engraving.

Clerk asked if box contained any "guns" probably bc address was to Orion Arms

Friend response was "no, the box contains machined parts"

Package was sent via UPS ground. But...the friend tells me he received a very suspicous look from clerk...as if she was.flagging the package.

The engraver is licensed FFL that he shipped to and he shipping to have a repair (which is what engraving is considered).

Friend is worried package will be seized, opened, and turned over to ATF investigations...why is he stressing so much and what is worst case scenario here...?

Has any law been broken or has just UPS policy been violated?

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GarySTL
May 11, 2013, 10:45 PM
UPS rules require overnight shipment by air. At a high price I'll add. They also require it be shipped from a service center, not a UPS store.

That said, I might have done the same thing.

Frank Ettin
May 11, 2013, 10:49 PM
I doubt that ATF will care. But since your friend violated UPS rules and thus the contract with UPS, if the shipment is lost or damaged UPS can deny any claim.

Lindy7443
May 11, 2013, 11:36 PM
Friend went to UPS store w AR lower all packaged up to send for SBR engraving.

Clerk asked if box contained any "guns" probably bc address was to Orion Arms

Friend response was "no, the box contains machined parts"

Package was sent via UPS ground. But...the friend tells me he received a very suspicous look from clerk...as if she was.flagging the package.

The engraver is licensed FFL that he shipped to and he shipping to have a repair (which is what engraving is considered).

Friend is worried package will be seized, opened, and turned over to ATF investigations...why is he stressing so much and what is worst case scenario here...?

Has any law been broken or has just UPS policy been violated?

moto_stevo
May 12, 2013, 12:46 AM
I just went through a similar experience. I had a rifle rebarreled.
The UPS lady made like she had issues with it. I assured her that it was only gun parts. The shooting parts were not in the package. All went well with the delivery... Both ways

ngnrd
May 12, 2013, 02:59 AM
Regardless of whether or not that UPS agent had an issue with it, your "friend" does know that an AR lower IS a gun, right?

MaterDei
May 12, 2013, 03:52 AM
Just because the lower is the gun part which contains the serial number does not make the gun part a gun.

newfalguy101
May 12, 2013, 04:29 AM
Far as I know. AR lowers should be able to ship via ground anyway, I believe the UPS policy is handguns go overnight............no reason to lie about the contents, all your friend accomplished is making himself nervous

koxx.dta
May 12, 2013, 05:01 AM
had same thing happen when mailing an upper...go to main ups or fedex not ups "store" i was told they can not handle gun parts or guns...as far as gun part not being a gun as said in above post...technically it is considered a firearm which is why it must go through ffl

NOLAEMT
May 12, 2013, 05:10 AM
Just because the lower is the gun part which contains the serial number does not make the gun part a gun.
according to federal law, the serialized receiver IS the firearm. So in fact the lower receiver of an AR15 is a gun all by itself.

GCMkc
May 12, 2013, 11:18 AM
I had to send a rifle back to Century Arms for repair a few years back. I just went to my LGS and had them ship it (a bit more expensive but you won't get hassled). Then, Century just sent the rifle UPS back to my house.

Al Thompson
May 12, 2013, 11:43 AM
Just because the lower is the gun part which contains the serial number does not make the gun part a gun.

Completely factually incorrect. The serial number is key as most FAL S/Ns are on the "upper" as are Ruger Mark series .22 handguns.

Lindy, in the future, only one thread on a subject please.

bikerdoc
May 12, 2013, 11:44 AM
Clerk asked if box contained any "guns" probably bc address was to Orion Arms

Friend response was "no, the box contains machined parts"


For the record THR does not condone being less than truthful in any firearm transaction.

Al Thompson
May 12, 2013, 11:49 AM
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=651375

FYI :scrutiny:

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