Keltec sub 2000 rifle and pistol


May 14, 2013, 09:34 PM
I have a like new Taurus 809 that I am thinking of trading in on a Keltec Sub 2000 in 9mm. My question is, what is a good pistol to buy with the Keltec that uses the same mags. I would like to keep it American made if possible. What suggestions do you have

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Ed Ames
May 14, 2013, 09:49 PM
Since 2008 kel-tecs have been one of those "if you can find one, your choice is buy or don't" brands. I haven't seen a sub 2000 in a store since the one I bought in '09ish. They had a choice of glock or glock. :)

I think I bought both of the below-msrp kel-tec long guns I have seen since 2008 too. They are usually marked up due to demand.

Maybe that's a localism though. :)

If you have a choice I think the S&W 59 mag model is the only one guaranteed to have a us-made counerpart. I guess Glock is manufacturing some pistols in the USA too.

May 14, 2013, 10:37 PM
Yes I saw that the S&W 59 was my only U.S. made option. I only have Rugers, Taurus', keltecs, Berettas and S&Ws; how are SIGs? I know they are very popular, how does say a SIG 226 grip compare to a M&P 9?

May 15, 2013, 01:27 AM
if you have a beretta, I think there was a sub 2K that used beretta mags

May 15, 2013, 01:51 AM
The Glocks will fit Glocks and nothing else. The other three can be changed to fir any of the three magazines. You just order a part. The Glock can't be changed because the magwell is a different size and will not accept them. So if you get a Sig, S&W or Beretta you can change it to the other two pretty easily.

May 15, 2013, 06:09 PM
Thanks for the info, esp. John. I will go to my LGS and get one ordered. Unless y'all have a suggestion for a better carbine?:)

May 15, 2013, 06:24 PM
I would suggest you buy something else while you're will be a while.

Ed Ames
May 15, 2013, 06:35 PM
I was going to say don't take it personally if the LGS guys laugh. If they take a deposit, well, that would be curious.

It's a fun rifle, but like I hinted before, they have been in short supply for the last 5 years or so. They weren't too common before that when you get down to it.

Nothing really compares to it though. :(

May 15, 2013, 10:09 PM
I hear it isn't unusual to wait years for an ordered one...
I have 2, a 9 and 40, both take Glock, which is all I have EVER seen in stock even back when they were only moderately hard to find.

May 16, 2013, 01:28 PM
What other 9mm carbine would you recommend?

Ed Ames
May 16, 2013, 02:54 PM
If you want a really light, easy to store, magazine sharing carbine, the sub2k is arguably your only choice. By the way: I saw a .40/Glock 22 model in a store today, first I've seen in a long time. $599 on the tag. I paid around $300 for the same rifle a few years ago. :(

The Beretta Cx4 is the runner up (shares mags with 92 and Px4 iirc).

The high point is the choice for, "Don't care, just gimme a 9mm carbine now!"

May 16, 2013, 05:09 PM
My brother has a Highpoint, seems to have served its purpose. I relaly wish I could find a Ruger Police Carbine. I will keep my eyes peeled for a Sub2K, will talk to the LGS and see if they can order one at a decent price. Unlike stuff I read online, LGS here has maintained a 10% markup... so far.:what:

May 17, 2013, 08:55 AM
Back around 2000, Hi-Point 9mm carbines would be on sale for $89, they were typically about $119.

3 friends at work bought them just to have a cheap blaster for the pistol carbine events our club used to hold.

The things were aggravatingly accurate. Every one of them easily outshot the typical half-dozen Colt 9mm AR's that showed up (including mine), out to 100 yards (longest range we shot them on). On the close range IDPA style stages and steel plates at 25 yards they handled as well as the Colts and you couldn't tell the difference in times or scores. The darn things never jammed or stopped running, unlike the Colts. They're all still running fine today.

Unfortunately I never could get over their looks or image as a "cheap" gun to buy one myself. But performance-wise, they're extremely impressive.

I did buy a Glock-mag 9mm Sub 2000 back when they were less than $200 and felt like an idiot for spending so much on it. Funny how things change! It's small, super light, and the kids can easily handle it. They're fun little guns.

May 17, 2013, 10:08 AM
+1 for the Hi-Point carbines. There are plenty of Hi-Point haters but they very rarely have any legitimate reason for it.
Cheap, accurate, reliable, and not as ugly as the Hi-Point pistol. Can't go wrong.

May 17, 2013, 10:17 AM
Love my .40" Glock mag 2000 - fits in a backpack, carries on a bus or a motorcycle. Shot my ex-future FIL's HiPoint carbine, added the new "railed" stock on it, shoots fine. Hard to screw up straight blowback in a PCC. That's hilarious about the Hi-Point outshooting Colt 9mms.

May 20, 2013, 01:04 AM
I'm not a fan of Glock pistols but I do own 2 Glock mag Sub-2000's (9 &40).
So if I were to buy a Sub-2000 & pistol combo go Glock.
You can get larger capacity magazines in Glock.


May 20, 2013, 04:55 AM
If high point ever came up with a version of the carbine that took Glock magazines you would not be able to keep them in the stores. I'd buy a couple and I have a Sub 2000. I'd rather have one of them than a pistol caliber AR. I've heard they are more accurate then the Sub 2000 but they have those proprietary ten round magazines.

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